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[*] posted on 11-24-2009 at 06:09 PM


Yes, the 6.4 did not turn out to be all that was promised. You've got to wonder what the Ford execs were thinking when they thought they needed to replace the bombproof 7.3 with the 6.0 and then the 6.4 and now the new 6.7. My '03 7.3 is amazing. No yo comprendo. Anyway, I'm going Duramax this go 'round, but I digress.
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Unfortunatley I own a 2008 F350diesel.Ispent three months in Los Barriles last year and I got back two weeks ago for the winter.I have probably put 8,000 baja miles on.The truck is piece of crap and Im having lots of trouble with it(both here and the states) but none of the problems are related to the fuel. I would not let the fuel question effect you plans.Just drink more pacificos and dont drive.:bounce:




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[*] posted on 11-24-2009 at 07:08 PM


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David, we've got to work on those search skills:yes: Here it is:
http://www.rversonline.org/ArtMexULSD.html

David, how's the Taco holding up?


The Taco is awesome... 102,000 miles... 4.5 years old... no breakdowns... runs like new! Oh what a feeling!

As for the link... THANKS... Now, about what Dah-veed posted:
"According to the station owner (Señor Meza) the Pemex station in the town of El Rosario (160 miles south of Ensenada) is the last chance to purchase ULSD on Mex 1 when headed south in Baja California."

THIS IS FALSE... That's not the correct last name of the owner, who does know there are more stations and diesel vendors south of him that get fuel from the same El Sauzal depot... and if they only have been making ULS diesel and marine diesel since 2007, is it Marine Diesel being sold in La Paz at Pemex?

I sure don't want any of you diesel owners to have problems... But, many Nomads (like Bob & Susan) have been using Baja Sur diesel in their NEW trucks without problems... and I am only questioning the logic of rumors of different diesels being sold if they only offer one kind of truck diesel in Mexico.

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[*] posted on 11-24-2009 at 07:24 PM


AND MY 6.0 IS FANTASTIC, RUNS ON ANY DIESEL, US OR MEX, ZIPPO PROBLEMS, I LOVE IT AND WOULDN'T TRADE IT FOR ANYTHING.

GO BUY WHAT YOU WANT.
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[*] posted on 11-24-2009 at 07:27 PM


Hard to beat a Toy for reliability. I just wish they made a 1-ton diesel, 4x4, quad cab, long bed.....with a 100 gal fuel tank.
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[*] posted on 11-24-2009 at 08:51 PM


My last 2001 Dodge sold to a friend at 12000 miles is still going strong at 260,000 no work on the engine and original transmission. He uses this truck to tow dump trailers and in construction. Toyota doesn't have any lock on reliability.
Now David take that reliable Toy with no rear disc brakes and get your recall done, along with 4 million others, so you don't go into a run away high speed crash. The most popular car in America is now a Ford. Maybe Toyotas flash in the pan is over.
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[*] posted on 11-24-2009 at 09:23 PM


Yup, that Cummins is one great engine. My fault for leading us astray from the OPs orig question about diesel. Talking politics and religion stir less emotion than talking trucks.



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[*] posted on 11-25-2009 at 09:17 AM


I have an 04 Toyota Tacoma 4/4. With all the posts saying yes and no maybe so about ULSD. The Toyota sounds like it would be the truck to go with. The Ford just has SO much more space. Oh well you can't have everything. Thanks for all the posts.



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[*] posted on 11-25-2009 at 12:03 PM


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Yes, the 6.4 did not turn out to be all that was promised. You've got to wonder what the Ford execs were thinking when they thought they needed to replace the bombproof 7.3 with the 6.0 and then the 6.4 and now the new 6.7. My '03 7.3 is amazing. No yo comprendo. Anyway, I'm going Duramax this go 'round, but I digress.
Ford is coming out with an all new Powerstroke in 2011. It is a 6.7 liter that is designed and built by Ford. According to Ford the motor will produce more power and be more fuel efficient than the 6.0 or the 6.4. They claim to have thoroughly tested this motor in the harshest conditions and it's currently undergoing extensive real world testing by industries that are notoriously hard on trucks. One nice feature of the new truck is a power take off that can be used to run hydraulic pumps, generators, compressors etc. The new trucks will also be sporting an all new tranny.
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[*] posted on 11-26-2009 at 07:28 AM


Although it's a Chevy based site, the website dieselplace.com has a contributor named Ted White, I'm not sure if he's a mechanic, or what, but he does seem to know what he's talking about. He has published a lot of information on the LSD vs ULSD subject. You can do a search for his name and read the info. Here's a summary from one of his posts:

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If you search my posts back into 2007 you will see that I have contributed extensive information about the effects, or lack thereof, of lsd on the emissions system and/or engine.

In order to avoid posting pages and pages of data all over again, the bottom line is, the reason using lsd in our trucks is illegal is because using lsd produces unacceptable levels of sulfur particulate emissions. It has ALMOST NOTHING to do with whether or not the engine and DPF/DOC will be able to handle the higher sulfur fuel.

Again, if you search my posts, you will find the links to scientific testing done by the manufacturers which show that there has to be continuous use of lsd fuel for more than 40,000 miles before any measurable drop in performance of the emissions system occurs. You would have to use it for more than 100,000 continuous miles to reduce the effective life of the DPF.

I have been keeping track of more than a dozen 2007.5 and newer trucks in Mexico since mid 2007, some of which return to the USA and Canada each summer, and some of which stay in Mexico, where the fuel is still mostly lsd. Not a single truck has had a day of problems due to fuel, and I have yet to find a single failure of a DPF reported on this forum

In other words, if you happen to be using lsd fuel occasionally, it is NOT going to cause problems for the engine or emissions system. However, if you use it continuously, you can expect white smoke emissions during regeneration as sulfur compound are burned out of the DPF.


I have an '08 Duramax that will live in BCS soon. I've only made one trip south in it, so I haven't run it enough on the LSD to have much of an experience base. I've had some reservations about the fuel, but based on what I've read here and the large group he's surveyed, I'm not going to loose any sleep over it.




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[*] posted on 12-9-2009 at 12:05 PM


I sent off an email to Pemex asking them about their ULSD availabillty on Baja and the Mainland. This what I got back so far. Let's see if they follow though...... ???:coolup::coolup:
They be respond, that's something.

Thanks much for your comment we are sending it to the corresponding area for a follow up.



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De: gkpelon@aol.com [mailto:gkpelon@aol.com]
Enviado el: martes, 24 de noviembre de 2009 04:12 p.m.
Para: petroleosmexicanos@pemex.com
Asunto: Mensaje del Portal PEMEX.com: Cartas al Director General



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Want to drive in this spring as far as San Blas Nayarit. I own a 08 Ford diesel That runs only on ultra low sulfur diesel. Is the ultra low sulfur diesel available everywhere in Baja and mainland Mexico yet?

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[*] posted on 12-9-2009 at 04:22 PM


Remember Pemex (in previous letters) only provides the locations of depots where the ULS diesel is, such as El Sauzal (next to Ensenada)... All the stations in north/west Baja and along Hwy. 1 to Bahia de los Angeles, and maybe Villa Jesus Maria get their fuel from El Sauzal.

Since El Rosario has had ULSD for almost three years now, it would seem unlikly that the rest of the republic hasn't caught up... But, this is Mexico, afterall???




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