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Reeljob
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Diesel
I have a friend who is questioning taking his 5th wheel to Mexico because he is afraid the Diesel won't work in his truck (2009 Dodge)
Anyone have an answer or suggestion?
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BajaGringo
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I haven't heard that problem???
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tripledigitken
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Reeljob,
This has been discussed in the past. Use the search function.
According to a few Nomads that have the newer diesels spec'd for the new fuel, have reported having no problems running the old mix sold in Baja. The
availability of the ULSD is spotty in Baja, but is available.
I would get a 50-100 gal aux fuel tank mounted and you should have a good chance of finding enough ULSD to keep you going.
Bob and Susan in Mulege can speak with personal experience on the topic as they have a recent dodge diesel and have put big miles on it in Baja.
Ken
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David K
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Posted over 2 years ago...
BajaCactus
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posted on 6-27-2007 at 11:37 PM
Diesel Bajo Azufre...
My friends,
For several months now, Pemex Refinacion (that is the part of Pemex that produces fuel) has been producing Low Sulfur Diesel, known in Mexico as
"Pemex Diesel Bajo Azufre".
This type of Diesel has been distributed all around Mexico for more than 8 months now, slowly replacing the old one (When received, it gets mixed with
the old one, so it takes a while to reach it's optimal low sulfur quality).
Pemex also sent mobile laboratories throughout Baja to check on the new Diesel quality at the beginning of this year... they arrived at BajaCactus in
february 2007... they checked our Diesel and told us it was already 98% Low Sulfur, back then, and according to them, at our Gas Station, it should
not have taken more than a couple of weeks to achieve it's optimal levels.
At this point it is supposed to be all around Mexico.
On a related note, also Premium fuel has also been upgraded to a Ultra Low Sulfur version, known as "Premium UBA" (Ultra Bajo Azufre).
Regarding the quantity of sulfur in each fuel, I do not know... but if you guys really need/want to know, I would be happy to try and find out for
you.
In the near future, you may begin to see the change in the Gas Stations signs of the new fuel... it just takes a while since those are expensive and
the owner of the Gas Station has to pay for them out of their profits.
Hope this info helps my friends.
BajaCactus
"Where the Baja is so much more than a dream..."
[Edited on 10-26-2009 by David K]
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Oggie
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If your truck is under warrantee, and requires Ultra Low Sulfer Diesel(ULSD) to operate you will void the warrantee by using non-ULSD. Period. The
dealer can tell by hooking your truck to their diagnostic equipment. The trucks onboard computer will shut down your truck if the filters become
clogged and you can not restart until the filters are changed.
A man never stands as tall as when he kneels to help a child.
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for a little while - Bad Blake
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Bob and Susan
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well....3 years
lots of tanks...
usa dealer trips for service...
no problems
it's only about the smog issues in the states
the dealers CANNOT say it works ok
the diesel in baja works fine
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DianaT
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Oggie
If your truck is under warrantee, and requires Ultra Low Sulfer Diesel(ULSD) to operate you will void the warrantee by using non-ULSD. Period. The
dealer can tell by hooking your truck to their diagnostic equipment. The trucks onboard computer will shut down your truck if the filters become
clogged and you can not restart until the filters are changed. |
My son just sold his 2009 Dodge and bought an older Dodge diesel for that reason----as two neighbors down here have told us, their dealers said the
little bit older ones will survive the fuel here, but the 2009 is different I guess. I know they both said their dealers did not want to sell them at
2009----says something when a dealer does not want to sell a brand new truck. One is from the US and the other is from Canada and they both had the
same experience.
Anyway, I know my son was not willing to risk the warranty on a very expensive truck---and we sure were not going to advise him to go ahead and risk
it.
I do not know why the dealers said the 2009 were different--- so what was true 2 years ago, may not apply now.
Tis a choice----some are willing to risk it, and some are not.
[Edited on 10-27-2009 by DianaT]
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fishingmako
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If you want to get diesel in mex and you are paranoid, just get an additive to put in with the fuel, I personally haven't had any problems, and there
are a lot of people with new Diesels, like Bob and Susan, they have reported on here before, they bought their Diesel new and amazing they have had NO
PROBLEMS.
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bajalou
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Having nothing to do with the fuel in Mexico, I have friends here in NEW Mexico that report almost every 2009 pickup has had the particulate filter
plugged up. Only one in regular use in this area has not had provlems. Most of them have had trouble many times, requiring trips of over 100 miles
to a dealer. Some are saying "No more Dodge" even though they like the power etc. This is with using the USLD fuel available in NM, Arizona and
Texas.
No Bad Days
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\"The trouble with doing nothing is - how do I know when I\'m done?\"
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And in the San Felipe area - check out Valle Chico area |
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David K
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Good to hear Lou, that blaming Pemex for diesel issues is NOT valid. When are you guys coming home? Will we see you New Years (if we get away)?
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bajalou
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I'll be there in the next week or so and Teina mid Dec. Last year was the final as "Last One" of the Turkey Feasts. 13 years was enough as BajaRob
can attest. We'll be there though. Be glad to see you if you get down.
No Bad Days
\"Never argue with an idiot. People watching may not be able to tell the difference\"
\"The trouble with doing nothing is - how do I know when I\'m done?\"
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And in the San Felipe area - check out Valle Chico area |
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David K
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Here are some photos of 'The Last One': http://forums.bajanomad.com/viewthread.php?tid=36237
Good fun... glad we were there!
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Bomberro
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There have been two diesel trucks flat bedded from Los Barriles to San Diego because of fuel problems both the 2007 and newer models. One Ford lost a
plug inside the valve cover area and lost fuel pressure, the other a Chev 2500 HD, I was told, plugged the particulate filter. I have not talked to
the owner myself and this problem was related to me by his neighbor. Long way to have your truck taken by flat bed. ULSD can only be obtained from
Guerro Negro North at last check. The Chev had been driven a lot in Baja Sur.
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Bob and Susan
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another urban myth...
heard from a friend of a friend...
diesels don't have spark plugs anyway
what kind of plug was lost?
the ultra low fuel is ONLY needed to meet smog requirements in the states
to meet these emission standards the manuf
needs to remove sulfur from the mix
the particulate filter burns off clean if any clogging occurs
our first 2007 had a software problem
within the first 1000 miles (in the states)
that had to do with the particulate filter
since then dodge has "flashed" the computer 3 times
with updates when serviced
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Pescador
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Bob, of the newer Dodge Diesel trucks, which year seems to be the best? My 2001 is still going strong, but I get worried when I look at the newer
trucks. I would not consider a Ford or a Chevy diesel in the pickup but the new Dodge has had some reported problems. Guess I could get in to the
used market if I had to.
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Bob and Susan
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my dodge had a couple of wire and
computer problems but warranty took care of that
my neighbors dodge trans had problems shifting
$600 fixed (at the dealer)
my old 2003 diesel had a lift pump go out
my 1999 chevy 1 ton gas unit lost a trans
there are always problems with trucks
i have a ford "super duty" 3/4 ton too...
it's kinda made junky compared to the dodge
i think they are all the same
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durrelllrobert
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Bob and Susan
another urban myth...
heard from a friend of a friend...
the particulate filter burns off clean if any clogging occurs
 Maybe
Volvo diesles engines in boats are different but the deisle sold for boats at the Coral Marina in Ensenada regularly clogs up the particulate filters
within 5-6 hours and they have to be replaced since they are not self-cleaning |
Bob Durrell
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fishingmako
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HERE IS THE DEAL, EITHER DRIVE IT OR STAY HOME , THERE ARE PEOPLE WITH OLD, NEW AND IN BETWEEN, NO PROBLEMS, REAL SIMPLE, IF IT BOTHERS YOU TO FUEL IN
MEXICO, I SAY DON'T BRING TRUCK TO MEXICO, HOW HARD IS THIS DISCUSSION, IT COMES AND GOES ON THIS BOARD MORE THAN IT SHOULD, I HEAR PEOPLE SAY THE
OLDER DIESELS ARE BETTER, SIMPLE SOLUTION BUY OLDER, OTHERS SAY I WANT NEW, THEN BUY NEW, YOU HAVE READ ENOUGH NOW, IT IS UP TO YOU, BUY WHAT YOU FEEL
COMFORTABLE WITH?????
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David K
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| Quote: | Originally posted by fishingmako
HERE IS THE DEAL, EITHER DRIVE IT OR STAY HOME , THERE ARE PEOPLE WITH OLD, NEW AND IN BETWEEN, NO PROBLEMS, REAL SIMPLE, IF IT BOTHERS YOU TO FUEL IN
MEXICO, I SAY DON'T BRING TRUCK TO MEXICO, HOW HARD IS THIS DISCUSSION, IT COMES AND GOES ON THIS BOARD MORE THAN IT SHOULD, I HEAR PEOPLE SAY THE
OLDER DIESELS ARE BETTER, SIMPLE SOLUTION BUY OLDER, OTHERS SAY I WANT NEW, THEN BUY NEW, YOU HAVE READ ENOUGH NOW, IT IS UP TO YOU, BUY WHAT YOU FEEL
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gatopelon
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Fellow Mexico Travelers, It's now Nov 2009 how good is the low sulfur diesel at this point? One of the Dodge trucks is and 06 and will burn both. The
other is a 07 or 08 and has to burn the low sulfur. We want to drive down in the spring of 2010.
We want to drive down Baja to Mulege for a stay then take the ferry to Guaymas and drive on down to San Blas Nayarit. 
\"Nothing dollarable is safe\"
John Muir
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