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BAJACAT
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AstroBaja, maybe for the future, you you think in buying a small dozzer for this kind of emergencies, plus you can use it to maintane your rds too,
just and opinion. And Im still here if you need my help, I live in National City, just 3 hrs away, but I don't know exactly where you are located in
SPM..
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BAJACAT
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Quote: | Originally posted by surfer jim
It's a small world isn't it.....I just went to look at the "off road" section here....I thought I remembered someone NOT wanting off road racers to
travel on their private road as it "makes dust and noise"....
Yes...on 11/15/09....and guess who had the problem with them...ASTROBAJA.
So today I am reading this and see several of those same "racers" offering to help the very person who didn't want them around.
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bring this up, plus'" THE RACERS OFFER THEIR HELP( NICE OFF THEM), HE DIDN'T ASK THEM ". at this time we are suppose to help the guy up, not to put
the guy down, very bad timing in your part.
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David K
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Rancho Concepcion
Quote: | Originally posted by BAJACAT
AstroBaja, maybe for the future, you you think in buying a small dozzer for this kind of emergencies, plus you can use it to maintane your rds too,
just and opinion. And Im still here if you need my help, I live in National City, just 3 hrs away, but I don't know exactly where you are located in
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1978 AAA Map above shows Concepcion

Camping and Climbing Baja map shows Concepcion but misplaces Mike's Sky Rancho, too far east.

PPM Park map shows the area well, but doesn't show the ranch.
[Edited on 1-24-2010 by David K]
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BAJACAT
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Thanks David Im still lost, I see a Rancho Concepcion, its that it?
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astrobaja
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Bajacat, we're at km 67, theres a new sign we put up sys La Concepcion, and R La Joya. We are 6km up the so called road.
For sure in the future we will have to invest in a small used bulldozer. The Ford NH dealer in Ensenada said they had a few used ones at their main
office in Mexicali.
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BAJACAT
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astrobaja, that would be a good investment in your part, hang in there, u2u me if you need anythink from me. Jose
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On problem trying to get in from Mikes or El Coyote using the race course routes is that the turn off to Astrobaja's place is at 5000+ feet and who
knows how deep the snow is in there.
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astrobaja
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TW-- We walked up a nearby hill and it seems here at 4860 feet we are just above the snow line! At R. La Joya below us they are clear..
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Mexitron
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astrobaja--those winter rains in the SPM are something else...lots of folks say they've never seen it rain harder anywhere else. Hope all goes
well---I'd be happy to help if I lived closer. Maybe consider grading a new road cut with that heavy tractor since trying to fix the old road looks
tenuous without a smaller one. Also, does anyone know the condition of the main observatory road? Now that its asphalt it shouldn't be so bad but
the Rio San Jose/San Telmo can really run hard above and below Melings Ranch. Are you in touch with the Melings at all? They might be of some help
as well.
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chuckmccullough
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If any of you are going to help and need a guide to get in to Rancho Concepcion form the Observatory road, let me know. I’ve driven the road several
times. Just give me a day or to notice. After these storms you’ll need a 4X4 or better.
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astrobaja
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Thanks for the offer of help as a guide Chuck. As you know we are in contact with David, Christian, and Duane. Davids in Ensenada so won't be back at
meling till the bridges are fixed. He mentioned that the camino observatorio was damaged between San Telmo and Meling so god knows how damaged it is
between Meling and the observatory!
Be good if someone could scout out the damage there....
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astrobaja
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An update:
The situation up here is worse than we thought, its beyond civilian help. We just talked to the condor station, they said the park entrance fellow
Alfredo and a small crew did a scout mission to se how the road out of the park was. Completly impassable! Probably landslides. They have enough food
for about a week. We are looking into getting helicopters to supply the people in the park/observatory. They have 1.3 metres of snow up top!
its getting to be a bit bigger adventure than we bargained for :>
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BAJACAT
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wow thats pretty bad i wish I had a Helicopter, lol
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I agree you need to get your ducks in order fast,, they have been talking about more severe weather coming in for the next few weeks, (on other treads
here on Nomads)
http://forums.bajanomad.com/viewthread.php?tid=43798
if this does happen, resources to get supples in and or get people out might be streached thin
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astrobaja
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A good piece of news, just got an e-mail from the director of the observatory. Apparently they were able to evacuate before the storm hit.
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maybe horse stew?
sorry, but reality dictates survival of the fittest, no?
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astrobaja
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no theres wild cattle here, i can just shot one of them!
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chuckmccullough
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That's no bull!
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Quote: | Originally posted by astrobaja
An update:
The situation up here is worse than we thought, its beyond civilian help. We just talked to the condor station, they said the park entrance fellow
Alfredo and a small crew did a scout mission to se how the road out of the park was. Completly impassable! Probably landslides. They have enough food
for about a week. We are looking into getting helicopters to supply the people in the park/observatory. They have 1.3 metres of snow up top!
its getting to be a bit bigger adventure than we bargained for :>
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I can imagine that the steep access road just before the park took quite a hit -- probably covered with debris flows in many places, perhaps washed
out in places
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Mexitron
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astrobaja---yah, I was wondering about that main road---we saw it after the 1992 El Nino, what a mess....you should be okay though as long as the
observatory/condor folks know your whereabouts. Just a thought---with all the rain is there any new grass coming up that the horses can graze on?
Or maybe its too cold yet.
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