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Natalie Ann
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| Quote: | Originally posted by David K
The pix are on the Internet, I have nothing to do with that... I did not save them to my computer... check for yourself, they are on photobucket.com.
I quoted her because she statred making up things about me I never said... the photos are in the quote, she later removed her photos (why?).
They are good photos, I am glad she still has them on the Internet... Why not share some good about Baja along with the negative?
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Perhaps you don't understand that people's photographs are their private property, David. Likely your neighbor parks his car where you can see it....
that doesn't mean it's yours to drive.
nena
Be yourself, everyone else is already taken.
.....Oscar Wilde
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shari
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oh my...I''m not sure if dianne was referring to my post which I thought was relevant to her post..it was not intended to be preaching or lecturing at
all...just hoped to bring some other points of view or insights into this ever growing dilema in remote areas. I thought this board was to share
information and ideas.
ONe thing about removing peoples posts, photos etc...once I posted something that was terribly misunderstood and offended some folks so I deleted
it...another member had quoted it and I politely asked them via a U2U to also delete it from their post...but I received a lecture on being more
responsible for my words....once something is said...you cant take it back...type of scolding. I was quite upset by that...
I personally feel, if you want to delete something you may have said in the heat of the moment...or think better of it later...one should have that
option...in my opinion...dont want this to sound like a lecture...it is just my experience and feelings on this subject which may be the subject for a
new thread so diannes doesnt get hijacked...
dianne, do you want me to move my post to a new thread on begging for money or something....I thought it was a very relevent observation you brought
up and thought it was OK to discuss this issue on this thread.
really enjoyed your artistic photos as always.
[Edited on 3-6-2010 by shari]
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shari
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oh dang....sure wish I'd have copied that last post that has since been removed (sheesh, ya gotta be quick around here) here one minute, gone the
next....laughed my white buddist butt off....called sirena in for the day's good laugh and it was already gone....can you maybe email me that funny
photo....all in good fun eh!
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Mexitron
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Those pics were lovely Diane--I saw them yesterday but didn't comment. They brought back a lot of nice memories...I think the first year I went there
was 1983 in my old 2-wheel drive Toyota...the road was quite the adventure back then...I recall having to make a couple of attempts to get up that
little rutted hill past La Higuera!
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rts551
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You have way overplayed the balance card DK. When you think as a weekend wonder your data is more "accurate" than people who live there, there is
about as much balance as we find in our political system.... oh you provide balance there as well. I forgot.
Post more pics Diane!!!!
| Quote: | Originally posted by David K
No, I give 'lessons' on the beauty of Baja through photos and accurate data in hopes to inspire fellow adventure seekers to find happiness there, as
well.
If I see data that differs with mine, I add mine, for balance not to put down the original words.
I have made an observation about places in Baja and another Nomad will post what he found there... and I don't get upset, say that person called me
names, and then remove all my photos...
It's about giving... not taking away, afterall. 
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Skipjack Joe
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I've been attracted to the mission ever since seeing this image made of it by Eliot Porter. Hopefully some day I will be there when the light is just
right and duplicate his results.
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Diver
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How about a vote ?
Who else thinks Dk is an immature, thick-skulled burro ?
I did not say "burro", I said jacka$$.
[Edited on 3-7-2010 by Diver]
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shari
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skipjack...that is a really neat photo taken before the restoration of the cupola above the door....the first time I saw this mission was when they
started to restore it....must have been more than 10 or maybe 15 years ago now...when was that photo taken??
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UnoMas
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Although I have said before, DK is a wealth of info on Baja and do appreciate his Love and passion for it, I sometimes feel he over steps his bounds
with his comments on other's posts and there is no need to interject his political views. This is supposedly an informative board on Baja and
sometimes I think this can be as disruptive as many of the troll's we see. Baja Nomads is far from the place that it once was from all of this, I see
many people that have quit posting over the way things have progressed, so for the sake of this great site why not try to keep to task and not try to
go tit for tat over someone elses post or politics. It is O.K. to see things different than someone else.  Let us enjoy what others have to say with out the negative, take it or leave it.................
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Skipjack Joe
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1964 or 1966 - I can't remember what I read.
He published a book on baja for the Sierra Club and the mission was on it's back cover as I recall. Krutch collaborated on the work. Krutch's
Forgotten Peninsula is one of my favorite books on baja.
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David K
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Skipjack Joe
1964 or 1966 - I can't remember what I read.
He published a book on baja for the Sierra Club and the mission was on it's back cover as I recall. Krutch collaborated on the work. Krutch's
Forgotten Peninsula is one of my favorite books on baja. |
The book is 'Baja California and the Geography of Hope' c1967 Large hardback and a smaller softback edition also was made. Inside was Arnold
Senterfitt's Airports of Baja map.
(fyi, you who love to jump without knowing all the facts in this thread: there was no politics involved... unkind things were said about a local
Mexican family and I stood up for them, with details that should have received a thanks, not a temper tantrum and removal of photos... that is all)
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longlegsinlapaz
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| Quote: | Originally posted by shari
ONe thing about removing peoples posts, photos etc...once I posted something that was terribly misunderstood and offended some folks so I deleted
it...another member had quoted it and I politely asked them via a U2U to also delete it from their post...but I received a lecture on being more
responsible for my words....once something is said...you cant take it back...type of scolding. I was quite upset by that...
I personally feel, if you want to delete something you may have said in the heat of the moment...or think better of it later...one should have that
option...in my opinion...dont want this to sound like a lecture...it is just my experience and feelings on this subject which may be the subject for a
new thread so diannes doesnt get hijacked...
[Edited on 3-6-2010 by shari] |
Since Diane's thread has already been thoroughly trashed beyond redemption, I figure a little more unvarnished honesty here wouldn't be out of line.
Therefore, I do hereby plead....
Guilty as charged!
Shari, yet another hard lesson you're going to have to learn in life is if you're going to chose to play the "Oh, poor me pity
card", then it's usually wise to have the common decency to relate the entire truth on the subject, rather than just that which
makes you look lily white!
Following is EXACTLY what I wrote to you....please note, I'm showing some level of respect/restraint by not posting your portion of
the U2U....including the part where you admitted what you'd originally publicly posted was true! If, in the interest of full honest disclosure, you'd
like me to post the original U2U in it's entirety, I'd be happy to.
"Shari, you can't "unring a bell". You said it & it's been read by 99% of the people who'll ever read it. I sincerely doubt that "some
folks totally misunderstood" your response to the following post:
| Quote: | | Originally quoted post deleted by me for this post.... |
But that's what your original post SAID! You can't have it both ways. You need to either reread your words before you hit the post button & stand
behind your words...or not post them in the first place. You can't "unring the bell" by trying to make your words disappear when you get called for
having put them in print in a public forum in the first place.
Shari, NO ONE mistook your meaning! And apparently, as things evolved, you were correct in your original assertion that "many people will just be out
there to see what they can scavenge for themselves". I'm confused why you'd think "it's not cool to mention this stuff." since it turned out to be
exactly what happened, and you've since posted that fact! Your prediction was correct after all!
IMO, what's "not cool" is to post something in a public forum & then try to make others appear stupid by accusing them of "misunderstanding/taking
your meaning the wrong way" when they clearly read your words in the exact way you wrote them. You KNEW EXACTLY what you were saying or you wouldn't
have prefaced your statement with "forgive me..."
When I began this response to your U2U, I wasn't sure whether or not I'd be willing to erase your words from my original post. As I've composed my
response, I've come to the conclusion that I will not alter my original post by removing your quote. Your prediction came true. Your original post was quoted by others besides me, so it would serve no purpose for me to alter my original post."
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shari
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please dont yell at me legs...how do YOU know if people misunderstood my post or not...you can only understand for yourself, not the reset of the
human race. I deleted my post because I didnt want it misunderstood by some and didnt want to offend publically some people who took offence to my
post....even if it was true. It was my choice and i had my own reasons that you may never understand or appreciate. I am not lily white nor claim to
be but I do try to do what's right and fair.
the point is if one wants to delete something...for whatever reason...I believe that they should have the right to have it disappear...whether you
think so or not.
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soulpatch
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Unless my wife makes me I leave my posts as originals unless I add something or
correct some grammar or spelling.
I figure this is the right thing to do. Even after exhibiting the side of me that is a completely obtusebuttcrack...... you get to see all sides that
way. Whatever.That is just my little personal code of honor. If you meet me you will find that I am not wart free but they are always out there
without there being a secret about my feelings.
If I take the time to type it I am surely feeling it at the time...even when beer is a play.
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longlegsinlapaz
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This is a sincere question....
What did you propose to do about THE OTHER POSTERS WHO HAD ALSO QUOTED YOUR ORIGINAL POST????
You missed one of my key points then & you're still missing it or chose to ignore it. What earthly good would it have done for me to have removed
your quote from my post while other posts which also quoted it remained in place?
Truly harsh fact of life, but you simply cannot "unring the bell", especially once you choose to post words for all the world to see. I agree with
you that anyone has the right to delete their post if they change their mind for whatever reason....they'd just better do it before multiple people
quote their words!
It's like the old carpenters adage...."Measure twice, cut once!" Reread your words before you hit the post button, because the written word forever
reverberates through internet time!
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woody with a view
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edit: to delete23 words......
take it to U2U at this point.
[Edited on 3-7-2010 by woody in ob]
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bajaguy
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Uh-oh.....
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It's like the old carpenters adage...."Measure twice, cut once!" |
Dang, that's the problem....I have always been measuring once and cutting twice!!!!!
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shari
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legs, I imagine I didnt see others who reposted it or I certainly woul have asked them to remove it as well...i really cant remember that long ago. at
the time I asked you to remove it, it was most likely the only one up at the time....then since you chose not to...what would be the point of others
removing it anyway.
there seems to be alot of deleting of posts all the time...why dont you yell or lecture to the others?
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Skipjack Joe
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Ladies, ladies .... please
You are, after all, the gentler sex ...
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shari
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awwww comeon skippy...you know how much nomads enjoy a public flogging...especially on sundays!!!
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