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dtbushpilot
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| Quote: | Originally posted by DianaT
| Quote: | Originally posted by comitan
I also think Baja is still being covered well, but also think certain threads should be relegated to Off Topic. |
I totally agree. The latest so called political thread should have been in off-topic where most of us don't venture.
It was not an issue where it is easy to agree to disagree---because it was not just a political issue, but it said a lot about who people are---about
their basic humanity.
I know I was accused of being bitter, but as I stated, I was seriously more disappointed by some, and disgusted by others. I can and do differ
politically with friends on political issues and can agree to disagree, but this was not about a policy.
Off-topic is there for a reason, and perhaps more threads should be moved there. |
Once I see a thread going political or nasty I quit reading it. I don't know why this so difficult to do by those offended by the content. I just let
the unhappy people go after each other and read the other stuff.
I don't post as much as in the past and when I do its usually just a couple of lines to poke fun at something or someone. I don't remember anybody
being nasty to me or me to them in the past. I learned to get along with people in kindergarten.....maybe they don't teach that any more.....dt
"Life is tough".....It's even tougher if you're stupid.....
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Osprey
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Well, there you go again. Some of us did not get a chance at kindergarten, some (like me) had to go twice. Now you're gonna make a thing out of that.
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dtbushpilot
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Osprey
Well, there you go again. Some of us did not get a chance at kindergarten, some (like me) had to go twice. Now you're gonna make a thing out of that.
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Maybe that's why you're twice as nice as the rest of us.......dt
"Life is tough".....It's even tougher if you're stupid.....
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DonBaja
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I don't argue politics (environmental, racial, party affiliation) or religion it's a losing argument everytime. I first joined BN to get information
about venturing further south of the border than I had ever done before. I was given informative answers to questions and I have since made 3 trips
(no trip reports because of the political comments made) to the tip and back since joining.
I like reading the trip reports, the offroading , the fishing reports, the real estate discussions and enjoy the pictures..other than that I don't
participate much on this forum;
REASON is I don't like the way that many members are so judgemental..An example would be..If a member asks a questions and it is answered with
pictures and links to help the member understand the answer and you don't like the person that posted the answer Why do you have to Blast them for
trying to help? You Don't Have to jump on the person's shiat that answered if you don't agree but you Do Have to offer up a different answer.. To Much
Negative Energy and Flaming of others goes on here....
I really enjoy the website, don't visit as much anymore I think Better Moderation is needed IMHO...
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astrobaja
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Ok experience with lots of internet groups (yahoo groups) has taught me that these types of boards are not democracies. They are slumbering
autocracies or dictatorships. If you slip into nasty personal attack or behave in a way in which you normally would not were you face to face with a
person then you are warned or booted! I personally have never seen a group as unmoderated or nasty (at times) as this one!
That said I have seen numerous great and helpful threads! Personally I was very touched by the offers of help during our stranding at the ranch and
when we had to make the decision to put our dog down!
I've gotten to the point where I just ignore at lot of the crap here and sift to the threads of interest. If I were listowner there would be about
20-30 less people here! If you want to be nasty have the guts to do it face to face in a bar or someplace like that!
rule no. one is "don't feed the troll!"
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and be replaced by something even more bizarre and inexplicable.There is another theory which states that this has already happened\"
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noproblemo2
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Dennis, Thank You for starting this thread, as I am sure Doug is following it. Will be interesting to see what comes of this.
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DianaT
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| Quote: | Originally posted by noproblemo2
Dennis, Thank You for starting this thread, as I am sure Doug is following it. Will be interesting to see what comes of this. |
It will be interesting, but like other forums, this one belongs to someone and as with other forums, it is what the owner wants it to be.
Sometimes threads are moved, sometimes posts are deleted, etc., but what happens is up to the owner.
We could disagree about how the forum should be run, what is appropriate, how it should be moderated, speculate on if people would say the same things
in person or not, agree or disagree as to if evey one should just get along and pretend they like everyone------ on and on until the cows come
home-----doesn't really matter.
This forum is what it is----it is Doug's forum.
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dianaji
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Location: San Marcos, CA
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| Quote: | Originally posted by DENNIS
Ok..Nomads.....It's become so dull around here, we have to invent interest and try to bring back some of the old-timers to participate as they did in
the recent past.
We've lost a lot of serious voices here and it's a shame because I feel many of them have gone their way as a result of the atmosphere here drifting
away from the point, being BAJA.
Other reasons have been the "nastiness" involved in discussions here. That's a result of Doug's permissiveness, but bless him for that.
Soooo...Let's hear what you Nomads have to say on this issue. Point fingers and lay blame where it belongs.
Let's find the infection that has stiffled actvity here and get things back to normal.
I offer myself as a place to start....I know Ken and Roger will have something to say on this, or not.
If others have opinions about me, this is a good place to voice them.
Civility is yours to consider.
Go for it, Nomads.
Voice your bich right here, right now. Let's hear what we think of each other.
Familiarity will bring us closer together.
What would JR say to this invitation ???? |
when i first came to this forum, i was so happy that i had someone to ask questions, since i was a newcomer and needed to know some things about
living in baja...then the ridicule, insults, cruelty. yes, being thin-skinned, i no longer felt a need to be beaten down, so why post?
actually, there were a few sweet people who wrote to me privately to apologize for the treatment that i received. and even was invited to meet some
of them. and was treated so graciously. this was a plus. i had even planned a pot luck where when i finally arrived, we could meet one another...so,
that's where i'm at. even met this wonderful couple who i correspond with quite often and made some new friends.
so, THANK U, dennis! i see u now in a whole new view. and i like it.
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Cypress
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meme, Thank you.
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Bajahowodd
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Isn't this thread Off-Topic 
Seriously, there have been many excellent posts following up on Dennis' remarks.
If I was understanding what "legs" posted, it is true that perhaps the most egregious offender has been dealt with for now. That said, I'm glad my job
is not moderator. It's gotta be a thankless and difficult job to maintain a balance between boring and brawling. In all the time I've been around
here, I'm sure I offended some. It was not intentional. (Well, may a couple of times) Similarly, I have been the recipient of remarks that I was not
pleased about. But, at the end of the day, this community is like a family. We're not always going to agree with, or get along with everyone. But we
all have a certain bond. That bond can be found in the title of the web site.
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dianaji
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actually, i think it's quite on-topic and good to see things change for the better. all one has to do is be sensitive.
again, thank u dennis
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Cypress
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Bajahowodd, Good point! But??? We'll wade thru all the BS, and after
all is said and done, life goes on, I'll be living it. As for you? Good luck.
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durrelllrobert
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Mexicorn
Dennis is a good man! |
Yes, but I hate him for changing my name to Just BoB.  I thought I was
better than that
Bob Durrell
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vandenberg
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| Quote: | Originally posted by durrelllrobert
Yes, but I hate him for changing my name to Just BoB. I thought I was
better than that |
Robert,
Don't show your sensitive side.
Somebody will pounce on that.
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DENNIS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by vandenberg
Robert,
Don't show your sensitive side.
Somebody will pounce on that. |
yeah
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capt. mike
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hey Chris nice seeing you last night too.
| Quote: | Originally posted by LaTijereta
I am here at the Sernadad tonight.. the Fiesta party
As always great music and the margaritas are flowing..
I ahve nothing bad to say about Baja tonight |
anyone who takes this internet crap seriously needs a colonoscopy and a rectal exam of the cabeza too!!
want to learn baja and see/meet peoples??? then get off your cyber world internet device and get your arse down here!! live it love it dream it in
real time!!
oh, and all 3 seats to Mulege dodo tourney are booked - see ya'll on the 20th .
formerly Ordained in Rev. Ewing\'s Church by Mail - busted on tax fraud.......
Now joined L. Ron Hoover\'s church of Appliantology
\"Remember there is a big difference between kneeling down and bending over....\"
www.facebook.com/michael.l.goering |
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Bajaboy
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BN turns into a "big fun time" about happy hour. About that time a few dominant posters come out and ruin the fun. Cluck, cluck...
[Edited on 5-9-2010 by Bajaboy]
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noproblemo2
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Well Capt. Mike, you may soon need a bigger plane!!! Happy Fishing....
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Donjulio
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I just no longer worry about this stuff because none of it can penetrate my tin hat
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Bajahowodd
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"I've been collaborating online since way before the Internet and historically the general rule of behavior has been to avoid things online that one
wouldn't say face to face. It's human to slip occasionally, but the level of constant intentional incivility on this particular forum is downright
discouraging."
No comment about the level of incivility, but I have to wonder just how you could be collaboratng online before the internet. Sounds just a tad
difficult.
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