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k-rico
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Cell phone video, apologies if previously posted.
http://edition.cnn.com/2010/US/06/10/texas.border.patrol.sho...
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JESSE
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That was murder, he wasn't surrounded, the kid was across the canal and clearly far away.  This guy was just angry and killed the boy.
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MrBillM
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Opinions and Excrement
Are often amazingly similar. And, of similar value.
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DENNIS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by JESSE
, he wasn't surrounded, the kid was across the canal and clearly far away. This
guy was just angry and killed the boy. |
I don't know what he was thinking, but he clearly was not surrounded.
Where is the intl. line in the video? Down the center or where?
[Edited on 6-10-2010 by DENNIS]
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Barry A.
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Wow, I am impressed that you guys can tell what happened by that video---------I sure can't.
Barry
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DENNIS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Barry A.
Wow, I am impressed that you guys can tell what happened by that video---------I sure can't.
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Barry...After seeing the vid, is there any way it could be thought that he was surrounded? We can account for the whereabouts of everybody in it.
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Barry A.
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OK, I have watched the video 6 times now (having real problems downloading it)--------and I still don't have a clue what happened, or even who was
shot--------good thing I am not on the "panal of inquiry". 
I am not sure what the "surrounded" issue has to do with the shooting------did the BP claim they were surrounded?
I need to go back and review this thread again, I guess.
Barry
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Timo1
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Just watched it on CNN
not good for US relations at all
no one was surrounded
The BP guy had one and didn't want the other to get away
So he shot the kid
sold out and got out !!!
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Barry A.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Timo1
Just watched it on CNN
not good for US relations at all
no one was surrounded
The BP guy had one and didn't want the other to get away
So he shot the kid |
What I picked up on was the BP guy did have one down, and was being pelted by rocks from youths on the Mexico side ----he then apparently shot at the
youths trying to drive them away??
So what is the problem here-------the BP agent was being assaulted
and he took defensive action--------I might have done the same (despite what Jesse feels).
The only reference I saw to him claiming he was "surrounded" was by a NOMAD, and have no idea where that info actually came from.
There apparently are other videos--------that hopefully will be better videos than the one I just watched (6 times) from a previous post which is
highly inconclusive to me.
I am not alarmed yet---------we will see.
Barry
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Timo1
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A shot in the air or something along those lines would kinda deter a 15 year old from throwing another rock
Dontcha think ??
sold out and got out !!!
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Barry A.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Timo1
A shot in the air or something along those lines would kinda deter a 15 year old from throwing another rock
Dontcha think ?? |
No!!!!!!! It is totally against police policy to "shoot in the air" especially within a city (you have no idea where those bullets will go). When
you shoot, you shoot to kill, period.
This may be ruled as unjustified------I have no idea, as I WAS NOT THERE, but we will just have to wait and see what the investigating team comes up
with------do you have a better solution??
Barry
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DENNIS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Barry A.
The only reference I saw to him claiming he was "surrounded" was by a NOMAD, and have no idea where that info actually came from.
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That was reported on the San Diego evening news. Don't know where else.
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JESSE
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The BP agent claimed he was surrounded by rock trowing illegals, he lied about that, the video clearly shows he wasn't.
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DENNIS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by JESSE
The BP agent claimed he was surrounded by rock trowing illegals, he lied about that, the video clearly shows he wasn't. |
The video does NOT show that rocks were not thrown although it clearly shows he wasn't surrounded.
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Barry A.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by JESSE
The BP agent claimed he was surrounded by rock trowing illegals, he lied about that, the video clearly shows he wasn't. |
-----he "lied about that"????? If you were being pelted by rocks, and you were below all the surrounding terraign, you just might think you "were
surrounded", wouldn't you? (tho I have not personally seen that claim, but will except Dennis's word)
Man, you guys are sure ready to throw the BP Agent under the bus---------you definitely would NOT be selected for the Jury, thank goodness.
Barry
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JESSE
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Barry A.
| Quote: | Originally posted by JESSE
The BP agent claimed he was surrounded by rock trowing illegals, he lied about that, the video clearly shows he wasn't. |
-----he "lied about that"????? If you were being pelted by rocks, and you were below all the surrounding terraign, you just might think you "were
surrounded", wouldn't you? (tho I have not personally seen that claim, but will except Dennis's word)
Man, you guys are sure ready to throw the BP Agent under the bus---------you definitely would NOT be selected for the Jury, thank goodness.
Barry |
BP agent said he was surrounded, video shows he is not, if you want to go ahead and get OJ simpson excuses, thats fine. But to me after seeing that
video, he murdered that kid.
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Barry A.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by JESSE
| Quote: | Originally posted by Barry A.
| Quote: | Originally posted by JESSE
The BP agent claimed he was surrounded by rock trowing illegals, he lied about that, the video clearly shows he wasn't. |
-----he "lied about that"????? If you were being pelted by rocks, and you were below all the surrounding terraign, you just might think you "were
surrounded", wouldn't you? (tho I have not personally seen that claim, but will except Dennis's word)
Man, you guys are sure ready to throw the BP Agent under the bus---------you definitely would NOT be selected for the Jury, thank goodness.
Barry |
BP agent said he was surrounded, video shows he is not, if you want to go ahead and get OJ simpson excuses, thats fine. But to me after seeing that
video, he murdered that kid. |
----sounds like a Lynch mob is forming--------vigilante action!!!
Is it still 1860 in La Paz????
Barry
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| Quote: | Originally posted by MrBillM
As far as Tonearent and his supposition, if I were wagering, I'd bet that the Video doesn't support it since the Border Patrol has seen it and is
campaigning for the FBI to release it as support of their position.
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This is not my supposition. Look up the word alleged in the dictionary. I took the statement from the original article. If you had quoted
more of that paragraph you would have properly represented my objectivity: "Even if the allegations prove false, it is still wrong."
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toneart
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This story is a classic bibical parable: Remember David and Goliath?
Whatever happened to the endearing American value/virtue that roots for the underdog?
What has happened to our humanity? What is seeming to emerge is a mainstream fascistic, fear based neo-conservatism. 
Well, if that is what you want, that's Democracy. The majority gets what it wants. You get to have murderers hiding behind badges and lethal weapons.
Wow! Do I feel safe!  
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JESSE
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Barry A.
| Quote: | Originally posted by JESSE
| Quote: | Originally posted by Barry A.
| Quote: | Originally posted by JESSE
The BP agent claimed he was surrounded by rock trowing illegals, he lied about that, the video clearly shows he wasn't. |
-----he "lied about that"????? If you were being pelted by rocks, and you were below all the surrounding terraign, you just might think you "were
surrounded", wouldn't you? (tho I have not personally seen that claim, but will except Dennis's word)
Man, you guys are sure ready to throw the BP Agent under the bus---------you definitely would NOT be selected for the Jury, thank goodness.
Barry |
BP agent said he was surrounded, video shows he is not, if you want to go ahead and get OJ simpson excuses, thats fine. But to me after seeing that
video, he murdered that kid. |
----sounds like a Lynch mob is forming--------vigilante action!!!
Is it still 1860 in La Paz????
Barry |
Plenty of things wrong in this nation, but fortunately, our cops with all of our problems, don't go around killing kids that trow rocks. Anyways,
enough said on my part here, with this video, the agents original testimony, i am pretty confident the law will do whats fair.
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