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motoged
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I think it's better that Beercan stay home and deep fry some turkey in his backyard....we don't need any pistol-packing rednecks littering our
countryside
Don't believe everything you think....
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Hook
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My desire for a gun isn't based on any fear of humans, especially in Canada. We're big on dry camping in remote locations for extended periods. Have
done this in Alaska a bit.
Especially when hiking in to back country lakes and streams for fishing, I liked to carry a .44 with the AK brown bears and grizzlies around. They are
not uncommon up there. Mine is only a 4 inch barrel, so it's looked up with disdain by the Canucks, I guess.
What do Canadians do to in these situations.............just rely on "free" health care, after the fact? 
[Edited on 6-27-2010 by Hook]
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motoged
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Hook,
For a start, our health care system is NOT free....our taxes cover basic costs....your government might learn a lot from our system. You might want
to educate yourself on such matters before taking such an idiotic comment.
As for comparing your "barrel" size with another personal measurement that has likely brought about a few smirks, Canadians don't tend to think that
way
And not a lot of folks being eaten by bears these days....you still living your Davy Crockett fantasy? Most of us up north don't wallow in the gun
culture such as you might. I have spent 40 years in the woods and have never needed a gun to protect myself....I have learned how to avoid being eaten
by wildlife so far....
Don't believe everything you think....
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Hook
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And YOU might learn the the subtleties of the use of quotation marks. Your health care system is ANYTHING but free. I only need ask the Canadians I
know who have forsaken the system (and moved to Mexico permanently) for what it costs them at every other turn but the doctor's office.
"As for comparing your "barrel" size with another personal measurement that has likely brought about a few smirks, Canadians don't tend to think that
way"
REally? Then why the barrel sized distinction at the border? A Canadian distinction, not mine?
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Timo1
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Hook
I don't know where you're finding these Canadians that claim we pay more every other turn
Example...My wife was mistakenly diagnosed with a stroke
MRI.....CAT scan....x-rays....female tests...neurology tests....and finally consulting with a neurologist
All this at no extra cost
We pay $98 per month for both of us
Where are you getting the bad facts ????
sold out and got out !!!
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Timo1
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As for needing any gun in the bush....Lay down when you're dreaming
sold out and got out !!!
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fishabductor
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I grew up 45 minutes south of the Peace arch and have driven through canada numerous times carrying firearms on my way to AK for work ing as either a
guide on the Kenai or working on my families gillnetting boats, the guy I brought was a 12ga shotgun. The last few times I had to pay $50 bucks to
transport it through.
I know many, many hunters who no longer go to Canada to hunt, after Canada made it difficult to bring in firearms. Canada really hurt it's
tourist/hunting industry in doing so. I no longer hunt as I live in baja full time so I could really care less. The people I know all stay on US soil,
however they still travel to destinations to hunt.
Why would you even risk bringing the film canister in PB through the border, when it'd be very easy to obtain north of the border However, I
no longer do that either
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Hook
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Timo1
Hook
I don't know where you're finding these Canadians that claim we pay more every other turn
Example...My wife was mistakenly diagnosed with a stroke
MRI.....CAT scan....x-rays....female tests...neurology tests....and finally consulting with a neurologist
All this at no extra cost
We pay $98 per month for both of us
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You pay it with the 4 dollar beers and the income tax rates and the outrageously priced fuel and the high cost of EVERYTHING up there that Canadians
try to avoid by buying in the US.............or moving to Mexico permanently.
Look BEYOND your health care costs to see the REAL cost of your "free" health care. Canada is an expensive place to live. Don't ask
me...................ASK ANY CANADIAN DOWN HERE!
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Hook
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Why am I expecting Canadians to understand the concept of personal responsibility with firearms? 
So, you're saying wildlife officials in the backcountry aren't carrying weapons for protection? I doubt it. They are realists.
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motoged
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Hook,
It is only a somewhat recent change that has wildlife officers packing heat....and these sidearms were introduced as a result of the increased law
enforcement responsibilities they now have....and the folks outback who think they don't need to comply with the officers (poachers and drunk
hunters ??).
They always used long guns for predator protection.
As for fewer American hunters....no big loss except for some outfitters. I don't understand why some Americans (ie. citizens of USA) can't wrap
their mind around the concept that one does not need to arm themselves so much in order to "feel safe". The "right to bear arms" seemed like a good
idea a few centuries ago.....the John Wayne era has passed, has it not?
Do you carry a gun in Baja?
Don't believe everything you think....
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mtgoat666
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| Quote: | Originally posted by motoged
Hook,
It is only a somewhat recent change that has wildlife officers packing heat....and these sidearms were introduced as a result of the increased law
enforcement responsibilities they now have....and the folks outback who think they don't need to comply with the officers (poachers and drunk
hunters ??).
They always used long guns for predator protection.
As for fewer American hunters....no big loss except for some outfitters. I don't understand why some Americans (ie. citizens of USA) can't wrap
their mind around the concept that one does not need to arm themselves so much in order to "feel safe". The "right to bear arms" seemed like a good
idea a few centuries ago.....the John Wayne era has passed, has it not?
Do you carry a gun in Baja? |
motoged,
hook is a conservative gringo with NRA lunatic ideas, it is a waste of time to debate with gringo right wingnuts. he does seem to get all hot and
bothered about canada, that is probably because some canadian girl rejected his advances
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fishabductor
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| Quote: | Originally posted by motoged
Hook,
It is only a somewhat recent change that has wildlife officers packing heat....and these sidearms were introduced as a result of the increased law
enforcement responsibilities they now have....and the folks outback who think they don't need to comply with the officers (poachers and drunk
hunters ??).
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From what I 've been told by the US forest rangers/game wardens...it is the crystal meth that has made their job dangerous. However I am sure the
drunks don't help.
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motoged
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| Quote: | Originally posted by mtgoat666
motoged,
hook is a conservative gringo with NRA lunatic ideas, it is a waste of time to debate with gringo right wingnuts. ... |
Goat,
Yep I figured that....but the discussion is kind of like hunting: ....one sits in a safe position with an overpowered weapon taking surprise shots at
an unsuspecting critter of lower intelligence
It's way too easy ...that's why I gave up hunting decades ago.
[Edited on 6-28-2010 by motoged]
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John M
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Canadian headache
Two months ago my wife & I decided to see a bit of Canada on our return from the east coast. After seeing Niagara Falls we crossed north into
Canada.
The border agent was rude, un-smiling, asked so many questions that we almost regretted attempting a short 400 mile drive through our neighbor to the
north. His question as to "why are you coming to Canada" and my answer, "to see some of Canada on our way home" - did not satisfy his inquiry. No, he
said again, "WHY ARE YOU GOING HOME THROUGH CANADA?" - I was trying to be patient, and I thought he was kidding as I had just answered the same
question, and then I made the biggest mistake of all by telling him, "just for some fun."
Question afte question followed, eventually he relented and let us pass.
Not a good welcome feeling.
John M
EGADS -
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David K
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Tell him he's a 'hoser' and to 'take off'!
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Timo1
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Yeah
Payback can be a B***H
We Canadians have had to put up with the same treatment crossing into the US for years
I attempted to cross at the Aldergrove crossing in the late '70s
Turned back to Canada because I mistakenly had my high beams on at the crossing
Made the CBP dude a little peed off
sold out and got out !!!
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Timo1
Hook
I don't know where you're finding these Canadians that claim we pay more every other turn
Example...My wife was mistakenly diagnosed with a stroke
MRI.....CAT scan....x-rays....female tests...neurology tests....and finally consulting with a neurologist
All this at no extra cost
We pay $98 per month for both of us
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Boy I am sure glad we didn't get that Canadian style socialized
medicine crammed down our throats here in the states, I sure would have hated missing out on just spending $4600 to have a minor medical procedure
that my healthcare policy (that I have the privilege of paying $400 a month for) will cover none of. We do have cheap beer though.
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motoged
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Folks,
I am guilty of taking a defensive and sometimes hostile stance whenever some yank makes a condemnation of something Canadian that seems trivial, way
out of line, or denigrating in some way. That, perhaps, is a demonstration of my sense of national pride...
I think we have a damned good country even though the beer is a bit more expensive than US downstream suds (yep, there certainly are micro-brews
which are great). Our country seems to be branded as quasi-communistic by some tea party types, but their political rationale is so skewed, it should
not come as a surprise to me.
I quite enjoy most of my travels throughout the USA, and have some great US friends.....but I am SO glad I don't have to live with some of the thang
going on down there....
Border guards are a separate breed ....but such services often attracts power freaks....and just regular folks who, like you and me, can get peey at
times.
If a border experience gets in your way, stay home.
Mexican horror stories don't seem to keep the majority of us out of Baja.....we pay attention and try to avoid risky situations and take the rest in
stride.
And I will just flash my stubby 4 incher to anyone who gets in my way
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Well said Motged.
Canada Day.....and I get a little proud myself. Esp after seeing the List's.
We've all had our own problems getting over one border crossing or another. And so it should be. Feels good to have people looking after you.
Makes me feel a little safer.
[Edited on 7-1-2010 by Barbareno]
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| Quote: | Originally posted by motoged
And I will just flash my stubby 4 incher to anyone who gets in my way
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Does everybody up there run around doing that? What a strange cultural quirk. In the US, that would get you a "deviate" label.
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