BajaNomad
Not logged in [Login - Register]

Go To Bottom
Printable Version  
 Pages:  1    3
Author: Subject: Baja Norte narco turf war situation- what next?
toneart
Ultra Nomad
*****




Posts: 4901
Registered: 7-23-2006
Member Is Offline

Mood: Skeptical

[*] posted on 7-26-2010 at 12:00 PM


Some posters are taking two sides simultaneously. That is not necessarily a bad thing. It shows how complicated the subject is, and thereby, the conflicts within.

As I have stated many times before, you have to prioritize!

#1. Stop the violence!

It cannot be done as a military endeavor. The War on Drugs is as futile as the War in Afghanistan. You cannot beat the insurgents! Their firepower, their inroads to local population contacts and control, and their zealousness are impossible to beat. It is their turf!

In Mexico, the cartels are fighting each other, the police and the military over the turf. It is escalating, spreading geographically and the potential danger to all of us is increasing.

The United States is fighting with a bloated Military bureaucracy. It is way too expensive to sustain without bankrupting our country. Our troops are well trained but they still operate under the Rules of Engagement. The little guy or woman who is willing to strap a bomb on his back and blow him/herself up cannot be defeated.


It has to be done on the political level; inner and/or inter government. This is being considered now in Afghanistan and Pakistan.

The cartels are in control in Mexico! They hold most of the cards. There will be concessions made. The War Dogs will be called off in return for the violence to wind down. The government will choose favorites and help them (the most powerful) to eradicate the lessor ones. That should go pretty fast, but there will be violence while this is happening. The goal is to STOP the violence, eventually.

#2. Decriminalize the drugs. The difference between drugs; Marijuana vs Heroin or Meth, has to be constantly shown and taught to the ill informed and to the stubborn moralists. Remember, to be a moral reactionary against the concept of allowing drugs to be consumed, is not as important as stopping the violence!

When crimes are committed as a result of being on drugs or needing drugs, then prosecute. Empty the prisons of non violent, and/or criminal users. The advent of just using should not be a crime.

#3. Tax it. All levels of government can greatly benefit from the revenue. Our government is still in control. We can implement it and enforce it. In Mexico, it will have to be part of the negotiation between the government and the cartels. There will have to be something in it for the cartels; either in the form of kickbacks or political appointments, or both.

Sure, some will go underground but most will become mainstream and a good source of revenue.

There are no clean or ideal ways to end these wars. It will be messy with residual consequences. Just remember...prioritize according to the most important and acute of the crises and be ready to accept a new paradigm. :light:




View user's profile
DENNIS
Platinum Nomad
********




Posts: 29510
Registered: 9-2-2006
Location: Punta Banda
Member Is Offline


[*] posted on 7-26-2010 at 12:06 PM


Quote:
Originally posted by toneart
The government will choose favorites


All due respect, Tony, but I think you have that backwards. It's the cartels who are choosing politicians.
View user's profile
toneart
Ultra Nomad
*****




Posts: 4901
Registered: 7-23-2006
Member Is Offline

Mood: Skeptical

[*] posted on 7-26-2010 at 12:18 PM


Quote:
Originally posted by DENNIS
Quote:
Originally posted by toneart
The government will choose favorites


All due respect, Tony, but I think you have that backwards. It's the cartels who are choosing politicians.


Yup! I thought about that while I was writing. You are quite correct!:)




View user's profile
DanO
Super Nomad
****


Avatar


Posts: 1923
Registered: 8-26-2003
Location: Not far from the Pacific
Member Is Offline


[*] posted on 7-26-2010 at 12:19 PM


Quote:
Originally posted by BajaGringo

Personally I would like to see slow drivers in the left lane be flogged and lifetime loss of driving privileges if we are going to start re-examining penalties...

:lol::lol::lol:


I'll second that motion.




\"Without deviation from the norm, progress is not possible.\" -- Frank Zappa
View user's profile
 Pages:  1    3

  Go To Top

 






All Content Copyright 1997- Q87 International; All Rights Reserved.
Powered by XMB; XMB Forum Software © 2001-2014 The XMB Group






"If it were lush and rich, one could understand the pull, but it is fierce and hostile and sullen. The stone mountains pile up to the sky and there is little fresh water. But we know we must go back if we live, and we don't know why." - Steinbeck, Log from the Sea of Cortez

 

"People don't care how much you know, until they know how much you care." - Theodore Roosevelt

 

"You can easily judge the character of others by how they treat those who they think can do nothing for them or to them." - Malcolm Forbes

 

"Let others lead small lives, but not you. Let others argue over small things, but not you. Let others cry over small hurts, but not you. Let others leave their future in someone else's hands, but not you." - Jim Rohn

 

"The best way to get the right answer on the internet is not to ask a question; it's to post the wrong answer." - Cunningham's Law







Thank you to Baja Bound Mexico Insurance Services for your long-term support of the BajaNomad.com Forums site.







Emergency Baja Contacts Include:

Desert Hawks; El Rosario-based ambulance transport; Emergency #: (616) 103-0262