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wessongroup
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GJ, most can.. just another case of shoot the messenger... don't worry about it..
It does happen.. most just hope it does not happen to them.. have been robbed my self.. not here but in the states.. was working on a car.. had on my
tools and stuff in a detached house behind where we lived..
Took the car, which I had just rebuilt the engine out for a test drive.. when I got back.. everything was gone.. I couldn't have been gone more than
15 to 20 minutes...
Even took my ski's.. and my "boots".. and one pole.. they left the other... 
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bajaguy
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| Quote: | Originally posted by wessongroup
.. have been robbed my self.. not here but in the states.. was working on a car.. had on my tools and stuff in a detached house behind where we
lived..
Took the car, which I had just rebuilt the engine out for a test drive.. when I got back.. everything was gone.. I couldn't have been gone more than
15 to 20 minutes...
Even took my ski's.. and my "boots".. and one pole.. they left the other... |
Wiley, Wiley, Wiley......you were not "robbed" you were the victim of a burglary or a theft.
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wessongroup
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ok, ok, wrong words again.. but, it was sure gone when I got back..
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bajaguy
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And that's all that counts!!!!!!
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Osprey
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No that's not all that counts. In the states if you just leave things laying around, your insurance might not cover it. If somebody threatens you, it
could be covered.
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bajaguy
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With the right insurance, anything taken out of your yard is covered..........and if anyone threatens me, they are the one who will need the insurance
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Osprey
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Boy, I wish that made sense. Have another 50 drinks.
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DENNIS
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Can I have one?
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Mexicorn
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Dont sweat it Jan your a kind person.
Peace
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Marc
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| Quote: | Originally posted by soulpatch
Thank dog the PC police are out.
I would say the shopping trip reference was probably inspired by the acceptance of institutionalized corruption and other societal "norms" south of
the border.
When did everybody become such PC pu*sies? Oh, probably around the same time that the face of America became fat people everywhere.
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Maybe they weren't Mexican. They could have been Mongolian or Eskimo or maybe even Sudanese?????
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Woooosh
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| Quote: | Originally posted by knuckles
So Woooosh....when you say EVERY STREET, why do so many amercians live in such upscale houses. Why not level the playing field and live like the
majority of the popluation here?
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Well, my first thought is not many well-off Americans plan to retire into what most Americans would consider poverty. OK, def a third world
retirement plan with the exception of the border and tourist resorts. Most retirees aren't rich- and they need to make their limited incomes go
further. Some live on nice streets, but most live in modest houses, RV's or Trailer parks. By the time you retire to Baja the material things aren't
nearly as important as the living things in your life.
The other problem is architecture here. I went through two local builders for the house in Rosarito- they both showed me something like what you talk
about- a Chula Vista-style with curved staircase and lots of windows. By the time you put bars on all the windows it would look like a Korean
birdcage. It's what the local architects think we want. Personally, I built a house with plain unpainted block exterior walls and only one huge
wood entrance door. (yes, we have an alternate escape route). You are right, the bigger American style houses and townhouses from the last building
boom look and are out of place but I blame it on the Mexican Architects over-delivering a product they think we want to buy- not the buyers. (Aren't
most of the cheesy ones still empty waiting for a buyer?) JMHO though
\"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing\"
1961- JFK to Canadian parliament (Edmund Burke)
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The Gull
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Woooosh
| Quote: | Originally posted by knuckles
So Woooosh....when you say EVERY STREET, why do so many amercians live in such upscale houses. Why not level the playing field and live like the
majority of the popluation here?
[Edited on 7-28-2010 by knuckles] |
Well, my first thought is not many well-off Americans plan to retire into what most Americans would consider poverty. OK, def a third world
retirement plan with the exception of the border and tourist resorts. Most retirees aren't rich- and they need to make their limited incomes go
further. Some live on nice streets, but most live in modest houses, RV's or Trailer parks. By the time you retire to Baja the material things aren't
nearly as important as the living things in your life.
The other problem is architecture here. I went through two local builders for the house in Rosarito- they both showed me something like what you talk
about- a Chula Vista-style with curved staircase and lots of windows. By the time you put bars on all the windows it would look like a Korean
birdcage. It's what the local architects think we want. Personally, I built a house with plain unpainted block exterior walls and only one huge
wood entrance door. (yes, we have an alternate escape route). You are right, the bigger American style houses and townhouses from the last building
boom look and are out of place but I blame it on the Mexican Architects over-delivering a product they think we want to buy- not the buyers. (Aren't
most of the cheesy ones still empty waiting for a buyer?) JMHO though |
Once again, the degrading remarks about Koreans. This has been your style for your whole time on this board. What did a Korean ever do to you to get
such a steady, sour message? How does a Korean birdcage differ from all other bird cages? What examples can you provide to support your statements?
As long as racial remark slinging is the norm on this board, you appear to be an American hypocrite.
�I won\'t insult your intelligence by suggesting that you really believe what you just said.� William F. Buckley, Jr.
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toneart
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| Quote: | Originally posted by rts551
| Quote: | Originally posted by toneart
To me,this statement does not infer that "all Mexicans" are thieves. What it does infer is that you are far more likely to lose your possessions if
they are left unattended anywhere in Mexico than in The U.S. (In the U.S., it is more likely to happen if you live in an inner city or a poor
neighborhood). It is more prevalent and more accepted by Mexican culture. These are Crimes of Opportunity. The thinking is: if you abandon your
property, no matter the reason, someone more needy deserves to claim it as their own.
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Brilliant. Please provide the facts that support this statement. |
rts551-
These are my observations based on experience. Most people in this string are relating a similar opinion based on their experience. After all, that is
what the subject is about; home invasions, burglaries and property loss.
The political correctness is a separate issue. Jan was quoting someone else. She has said so. Most have accepted that.
I, however, am offering a perspective based on personal experience, the experience of friends and conversation about same...real stories. I bear the
responsibility of striving to be PC. To offend is not my agenda. You only quoted a portion of my post. Did you read the whole thing?
I am not a journalist. This is opinion. I do not have to support my opinions. If you disagree with my opinions, the onus is on you to pick them apart
and tell us what it is you disagree with and why. And thank you for the "Brilliant". complement. 
By the way, I did a search on you and found your posts to generally be pretty sensible, so I don't believe you have an ax to grind. So again, if you
disagree, tell my why and we can discuss it.
I do have personal stories too. I am sure you do too. It goes with the territory (living in Mexico). My home in Mulege has never been burgled, but my
vehicles have, my boat and also hotel rooms. Many neighbors down the river have been burgled, etc., etc., etc. I have traveled and lived in many
different countries as well as several different parts of Mexico. My point of view has been validated by experience and observation and I am relating
the reality of this subject.
Obviously, I still choose to live, part time, in Mexico and the parts of the culture I love far outweighs the negatives that this subject conjures.
Anybody else want to jump in here?
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DENNIS
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Welcome back, Gull.
I'm sure Woooosh meant to say Lithuanian bird cage, but he's saving ink. He told me he's running short on the stuff.
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toneart
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| Quote: | Originally posted by DENNIS
Welcome back, Gull.
I'm sure Woooosh meant to say Lithuanian bird cage, but he's saving ink. He told me he's running short on the stuff. |
Stop lisping, Dennis! Are you trying to make fun of people with speech impediments?
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DENNIS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by toneart
Stop lisping, Dennis! Are you trying to make fun of people with speech impediments? |
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Woooosh
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 even I missed the Gull- and I've never had a nice
thing to say to about the flying rat. 
\"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing\"
1961- JFK to Canadian parliament (Edmund Burke)
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vgabndo
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I judge that some of you folks need a new discussion board. This is Baja Nomad. A nomad, should they find that their quality of life has been
compromised by an influx of thugs and weasles, just rolls up the tent, or packs the camper, or hitches-up the trailer and moves to a safer place.
(Most anyplace south of El Rosario???)
For 15 years I left my place in San Nicolas' unattended for at least 10 months every year. For security I had three screen doors. I never lost
ANYTHING until TS Julio washed it out, the debris that was pillaged was taken by a couple of despicable gringos.
If one chooses to live in a crap hole part of the country, they just might get a little dung on them.
Be a Nomad, pack up, move on. Who would want to live behind bars, behind guard dogs, hiding in the dark with a flare gun in their sweaty palm afraid
to walk outside?
There is a lot of good Baja out there. The TJ area is no more representative of Baja than BakersDiego is representative of Alta California.
Undoubtedly, there are people who cannot afford to give the anchor of sanity even the slightest tug. Sam Harris
"The situation is far too dire for pessimism."
Bill Kauth
Carl Sagan said, "We are a way for the cosmos to know itself."
PEACE, LOVE AND FISH TACOS
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wessongroup
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I like it.... no arguments at all.. seems my mind is willing, but my body is not able anymore..
Just thinking about it ... is pretty darn good... used to live that way long ago when I worked in line construction, transmission towers, distribution
of electrical power, was 21 .. everything fit in my 1957 VW, including my old harman kardon receiver, garrard turntable and two AR4x speakers (think
they were the 4's).. and my ski's.. used to rent furnished apartment or apartments.. followed the storms.. got see a lot of country..load up after a
few days.. and go some place else..
Thanks been a while since I thought about that time in my life... wow.. long time ago..
[Edited on 7-29-2010 by wessongroup]
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mercedes
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| Quote: | Originally posted by vgabndo
A nomad, should they find that their quality of life has been compromised by an influx of thugs and weasles, just rolls up the tent, or packs the
camper, or hitches-up the trailer and moves to a safer place. |
How would you suggest we roll up a highrise condo in Rosarito?
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