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Simple, we like people with deep pockets..so maybe you need to go to PVRSimple, we like people with deep pockets..so maybe you need to go to PVR
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In the statemenet above lies the Cabo San Lucas experience.
We want your money and lots of it.
The most common complaint that tourist make about the resort is that it is overpriced, that is it doesn't offer value when compared to other options.
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I just got back from Cabo last week. I had a great time.
Nope didnt get robbed or falling down drunk weather was great hung out at Solomans landing watching tourists. Also I did see a few "Cabo Angeles"
walking around its a great town and no chicken little the sky is not falling.
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I'm just glad that many BN's here are speaking up...to the fact that Baja is not in a state of "end of the world". Go home drama Queens
Old people are like the old cars, made of some tough stuff. May show a little rust, but good as gold on the inside.
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The price/ value thing. The two most expensive Mexican resorts are Los Cabos and Cancun. Mayan Riviera, South of Cancun is probably responsible for
pressuring prices downward in Cancun just because there are so many rooms available. However, Cancun became popular to East coast vacationers, as did
Cabo to West coast vacationers because of travel rime and distance. A two hour flight from LA is less than half the time one would spend traveling to
Hawaii, for instance. That said, if one so chooses, they can still get reasonably priced accommodations and food, if they are willing to sacrifice
certain amenities.
As for the all-inclusives, I don't have all the data, but there are at least three in the San Jose area. As for Riu, there are two side by side. The
original has 642 rooms. The newer Santa Fe has 902 rooms. That adds up to 1544 available rooms. Given that one wouldn't expect much in the way of
single occupancy, and that families travel, just consider that using double occupancy, there are over three thousand guests per week, potentially.
That's 3000 a week who may well not venture out to dine off-property, because they already paid for their food and booze.
Then consider most other resort hotels in the area that have multiple restaurants to choose from.
Also consider that most of these people arrive by plane, and take a shuttle to their resort. So, basically the briskness or lack of same in restaurant
business in town, or the seeming low volume of pedestrian traffic in town does not reflect the fact that the resort can be quite full.
I was told recently, by someone in the know at Hacienda Del Mar, that up until last year, their occupancy rate was slightly over 100%. Yep. they'd
overbook anticipating cancellations. If they had more guests than rooms, they would put people in the Sheraton Hotel. This same person told me that
occupancy has been running at 95% this year. Not bad, considering.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Nancy Drew
The most common complaint that tourist make about the resort is that it is overpriced, that is it doesn't offer value when compared to other options.
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Other options? Like what? Every option has it's price whether it's Cancun, PV, Matzalan -- but then these places aren't Cabo and aren't in
Baja. Every place is unique and Cabo stands alone in what it offers. It's touristy and the economy is dependent on tourist dollars. Nothing
wrong with that. Cabo is a high-end destination for those wanting high-end. It's everything in between too. Tourists coming to Cabo find
bargains if they look around.
Check out The Rancho http://www.ranchopescadero.com/ 45 minutes away from Cabo. Spend a little, get a lot. It doesn't get any better.
Pescadero is paradise, and so is Cabo.
US Marines: providing enemies of America an opportunity to die for their country since 1775.
What I say before any important decision.
F*ck it.
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And Lisa gives you a spiff for the post? 
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Nancy Drew
The most common complaint that tourist make about the resort is that it is overpriced, that is it doesn't offer value when compared to other options.
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Two things.
There is much more to Los Cabos than Cabo San Lucas. Within 30 minutes, you can find whatever experience you wish from isolated desert and sleepy
pueblos to Costco and sin city. We tend to hang out in the low key places which are convenient, numerous, and easy to find. I frankly avoid the
tourist scene, so other than my Mexican friends having a job, I could care less what tourists think about Cabo.
I do not live here as a tourist. Yo soy un choyero! (Credit BajaJudy for teaching me that) This is my home, thank god. Yes, there are probably
less expensive places to live in Mexico, but we can afford it, and we are willing to pay for some of the best weather in the world and warm and loving
locals. So if tourists want to come here and spend $600 per day to enjoy that same ambiance that I enjoy......good for them. If you like PV or
Cancun better that's okay. It's all good. I've been to both of those places, and although okay, just didn't measure up to Los Cabos in my book as a
place to retire.
May each BN find their favorite spot in Mexico, there's lots of them.
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Nancy Drew
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Lee other options, where have you been.
This article doesn't take into account European travel but if the Cabo is wondering where the Canadians have gone to.
http://www.thestar.com/travel/beachsun/article/736663--cuba-...
In all fairness to Mexico, I have been researching Crime in Cuba and have found muggings and robberies are up, however these are cities such as Havana
and other cities. A majority of tourists who visit cuba make daytrips to Havana, As far as pimps, hustlers, dope dealers , Havana has many.
Castro refers to his tourist business as factorties without smoke.
Another link:http://www.travelhotnews.com/archives/index.php?cmdAction=view&id=508
[Edited on 11-4-2010 by Nancy Drew]
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Nancy Drew
I have been researching Crime in Cuba |
Wait, wait, don't tell me. Castro can invite the Mob from Miami to set up some gambling casinos for smokeless industry. The Mob can set up a despot
dictator to run the country and they can make tons of money. Then a revolutionary can incite the masses. Then.........
This has already been done? Darn, and I thought I had a brilliant idea.
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P.S. here is the latest tourist hungry cuba to build 10 golf coarses and marina and they have changed their property laws to 99 year arrangements to
accomadate foreign ownership.
http://www.allvoices.com/contributed-news/6627653-cuba-golf-...
http://www.buenosairesherald.com/BreakingNews/View/32546
http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE64364J20100504?pageNum...
[Edited on 11-4-2010 by Nancy Drew]
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I thought I would add this
The Real Cuba another Canadian tourist who got duped:
gohttp://www.realcubablog.com/post/2010/08/05/Another-Canadian-tourist-who-got-duped-in-Cuba.aspx
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Many folks may mourn the Cabo of old times. But, fact is that tens of thousands of tourists visit annually. Since I spend time there several times a
year, my opinion is that it is clearly not unsafe. Anyone choosing to change vacation plans is missing out.
You can probably pin some of the blame for that on Sammy Haggar and his Cabo Wabo.
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Bahahowodd in regards to the someone in the know
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I was told recently, by someone in the know at Hacienda Del Mar, that up until last year, their occupancy rate was slightly over 100%. Yep. they'd
overbook anticipating cancellations. If they had more guests than rooms, they would put people in the Sheraton Hotel. This same person told me that
occupancy has been running at 95% this year. Not bad, considering. |
I was amazed, 95 percent .
Whenever I research a hotel , I go for the keywords on google , I will type in the Hotel name its location and keywords to see if there are any
issues with a particular property.
Well I did just that with the Hacienda del Mar Cabo and the keywords I use are
Scams, Fraud, Rooms Robbed, Robberies , Terrible Food, Overpriced and overated , room smells and sick. This gets me past the usual hype found
on the travel pages.
my suggestion to you is to do the same and start at scams and read what comes up.
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I don't know why anyone would trust a timeshare salesperson. Imo the whole timeshare thing makes no sense, if you invested the money that you spent on
the timeshare and used the interest to go on vacation you would be money ahead.
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Oxxo , Castro is not inviting the Maifia back in , Cuba gets its backing from Canadian and European investors.
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Investors in Canada, Europe and Asia have been waiting to crack the market for long-term tourism in Cuba, built on drawing well-heeled visitors who
could live part-time on the island instead of just hitting the beach for a few days. |
http://www.pressherald.com/business/cuba-makes-play-for-fore...
http://www.propertywire.com/news/south-america/-cuba-real-es...
their even wooing the Saudis
http://www.saudigazette.com.sa/index.cfm?method=home.regcon&...
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There are actually a few hotels in the Playa del Carmen area that advertise packages that include flight and hotel stay in Cuba along with your stay
in Playa. In theory US citizens embark not from the US, and the Cuban authorities do not stamp passports.
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What Exactly is Your Point?
| Quote: | Originally posted by Nancy Drew
Bahahowodd in regards to the someone in the know
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I was told recently, by someone in the know at Hacienda Del Mar, that up until last year, their occupancy rate was slightly over 100%. Yep. they'd
overbook anticipating cancellations. If they had more guests than rooms, they would put people in the Sheraton Hotel. This same person told me that
occupancy has been running at 95% this year. Not bad, considering. |
I was amazed, 95 percent .
Whenever I research a hotel , I go for the keywords on google , I will type in the Hotel name its location and keywords to see if there are any
issues with a particular property.
Well I did just that with the Hacienda del Mar Cabo and the keywords I use are
Scams, Fraud, Rooms Robbed, Robberies , Terrible Food, Overpriced and overated , room smells and sick. This gets me past the usual hype found
on the travel pages.
my suggestion to you is to do the same and start at scams and read what comes up.
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I'm certainly not pushing time shares. They are not for everyone. Some are better than others. There will always be people who get buyer's remorse.
Most folks who own time shares knew up front that owing one is not an investment.
That said, I'm not alone in my opinion that as time shares go, Hacienda Del Mar is among the better ones.
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95% occupancy in Cabo..............????
I find that very hard to believe, unless it was in the middle of the Bisbee Tournament. That too will shrink participants after the incident this
year.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by tripledigitken
95% occupancy in Cabo..............????
I find that very hard to believe, unless it was in the middle of the Bisbee Tournament. That too will shrink participants after the incident this
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Bear in mind, Ken, that this place is a time share. Folks paid for the right to be there. I'd bet that non-time share places had lower occupancy
rates. Get this: I bought week at this place pre-construction in the early 90's. This August, I called to book my week for later in the year. I
figured as many do, that vacancies would abound due to the economy and the drug thing. I was told flat out, that there were no suites available after
the first week in October through year end. Go figure.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Nancy Drew
I was amazed, 95 percent . |
Yes, as I said in an earlier post, occupancy in Los Cabos has been spotty this last summer. Some resorts posted 20% occupancy, while others (usually
the higher end resorts) posted occupancy rates between 70% and 100%. This is unheard of even in a good year. Those resorts who could offer a luxury
package seemed to do best.
| Quote: | Well I did just that with the Hacienda del Mar Cabo and the keywords I use are
Scams, Fraud, Rooms Robbed, Robberies , Terrible Food, Overpriced and overated , room smells and sick. This gets me past the usual hype found
on the travel pages.
my suggestion to you is to do the same and start at scams and read what comes up. |
No resort will ever get a 100% positive rating. There will always be someone who is POed about something and will write on onion. Let me give you an
example of which I have personal knowledge. I guest at one of the high end resorts claimed they had a digital, point and shoot camera. They said
they left it on a lounge out by the pool and when they came back the camera was gone....duh!!!!! They said the hotel staff stole it. They had no
proof they even owned a camera! The Hotel, wanting to keep a happy customer offered the guest a $500 hotel credit. The guest wanted $1000 cash and
threatened to ruin them if they didn't pay (extortion?). The hotel manager is not stupid. There are few if any $1000 point and shoot cameras (my
Canon cost $120). There was an impasse. The guest returned home and wrote a scathing review on Trip Advisor. You know the usual - scam artists,
dishonest, ripoff, robbed, room smells, terrible food, ad nauseum.
Don't always believe what you read. That goes for crime in Cabo, too.
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