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JESSE
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Heres an update:
Basically, this guy has been disappearing cats all over our block for years now, the pattern is the same, cats are not poisoned, they don't just run
off, and most cats have been fixed so the chances of they just leaving after another cat are small, they simply banish without a trace. What he does
to them after he catches them, is something only he knows.
My lawyer will take care of this, basically i am going to ask him to stop, if he does not, he runs a business from his house, and i will let everybody
in baja sur what this guy i doing. And that's only the beggining.
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Jesse
you must think outside the cat-box. go to the shelter and procure 3-4 dead gatitos and bring them home. use your imagination from there. make sure
that culero see dead cats everywhere he turns.
the "experts" say that those who hurt animals in their formative years turn into serial (not cereal!) KILLERS when the "grow up!"
if all else fails, get a gun......
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DENNIS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by JESSE
Basically, this guy has been disappearing cats all over our block for years now, |
You mean, others have known about this guy for a while, years, and you're just hearing about it?
It must be one of those typical Mexican neighborhoods where folks never talk with each other. Too busy guarding their privacy.
Make sure you're right before you have your attorney ruin his life.
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JESSE
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| Quote: | Originally posted by DENNIS
| Quote: | Originally posted by JESSE
Basically, this guy has been disappearing cats all over our block for years now, |
You mean, others have known about this guy for a while, years, and you're just hearing about it?
It must be one of those typical Mexican neighborhoods where folks never talk with each other. Too busy guarding their privacy.
Make sure you're right before you have your attorney ruin his life. |
No, i mean, other neighboors have lost cats as well in the same manner.
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"accidents" do happen
A neighbor several years ago apparently had a very bad propane leak in his house......once the propane reached the water heater pilot
light........good bye house......accidents do happen...........
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Santiago
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| Quote: | Originally posted by bajaguy
A neighbor several years ago apparently had a very bad propane leak in his house......once the propane reached the water heater pilot
light........good bye house......accidents do happen........... |
BG: would that fall under "cat-lateral damage"?
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DENNIS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Santiago
BG: would that fall under "cat-lateral damage"? |
Cat-astrophic....for sure.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by JESSE
Heres an update:
Basically, this guy has been disappearing cats all over our block for years now, the pattern is the same, cats are not poisoned, they don't just run
off, and most cats have been fixed so the chances of they just leaving after another cat are small, they simply banish without a trace. What he does
to them after he catches them, is something only he knows.
My lawyer will take care of this, basically i am going to ask him to stop, if he does not, he runs a business from his house, and i will let everybody
in baja sur what this guy i doing. And that's only the beggining. |
Not sure what I can do... but, you do have my offer to add what ever I can to help..
Have had the misfortune to deal with individuals like this in my life... in about all cases they were real sorry excuses for a human being... and gave
great pleasure to see a few actually get jail time... along with public service working in a pet shelter for 6 months.. that was the best I could ever
due while working in enforcement
And I made a point of going by and seeing the swine cleaning the floors and taking care of the animals... was just great...
In most cases after these types are "Id_ed" they don't stay in the neighborhood... as the killing of a poor defenseless domesticated animal with
"poisons" is about he lowest one can get in my book...
In one case there were so many dogs being killed in the city of Porterville CA that I was able to obtain a search warrant for the individual... he was
stealing an agricultural chemical used on cotton for side dressing TEMICK.. a really deadly substance..
Would put it in "balls" in raw meat... and then just go around town tossing it out in the neighborhoods... the most kill in one weekend 17 dogs and 12
cats... became a big deal in the city .. they called in law enforcement.. we had a lab with a GC (Gas Chromatograph) and samples we obtained could and
were used in evidence along with photos of this guy taking material from his employer.. Wilbur Ellis... and material (Temick) obtained from his garage
He worked for a Chemical Dealer in Tulare, CA... and was not real a credit to his industry as he was a peepoor Pest Control Advisor .. and a human
being too.. ya, do kinda find out a lot about how one lives when investigating them..
We were able; Sheffifs, City Police, Highway Patrol, and all the other agencies involved together to put this guy away.. and stop his little game he
liked to play... killing animals... any and all.. just cuz HE didn't like them ..... a sick o...
He moved from where he was living.. to another County, and we all made sure his past went with him... hope your able to do much the same...
[Edited on 11-11-2010 by wessongroup]
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DENNIS
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Jeeezo...Whatever happened to the days when you would just go next door and punch a hole in his face? I'll bet, to this day, nobody in that whole
grieving neighborhood has said one word to the guy.
He needs to fully understand the error of his ways or he won't quit killing people's pets.
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bajaguy
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| Quote: | Originally posted by DENNIS
| Quote: | Originally posted by Santiago
BG: would that fall under "cat-lateral damage"? |
Cat-astrophic....for sure. |
I'm just saying bad things happen to bad people 
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JESSE
Some times things aren't just fair. And trying to resolve the issues of unfairness....at times just dont work either. Persistence is a key to
success. You must know this yourself and dont need some Viking type of businessman in California telling you this.
I sometimes send in a "third" party to get to the issue I am having. Some folks plain hate me and wont talk to me...but will through a third party. I
succeed nearly every time to a resolution that works for me. Get someone that is cool, calm...collect. Prettiness helps too. No lawyers...that just
adding gas to a fire.
I will admit though...If I ****witnessed**** one doing harm to my pet: I'd be answering to...."you gonna be the Husband or Wife"?!
[Edited on 11-11-2010 by mcfez]
Old people are like the old cars, made of some tough stuff. May show a little rust, but good as gold on the inside.
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wessongroup
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| Quote: | Originally posted by DENNIS
Jeeezo...Whatever happened to the days when you would just go next door and punch a hole in his face? I'll bet, to this day, nobody in that whole
grieving neighborhood has said one word to the guy.
He needs to fully understand the error of his ways or he won't quit killing people's pets. |
Yep, what happen to those days... I liked them myself...
Can't say I could participate in a stand up today ... but, think I can find a way to be make my point... one way or another...
But, not in this society we live in now... one can not "strike" another... the very use of certain words can get you put away to 20 years... there are
laws.. there are laws
We have been able to change our society into second grade.. with room monitors, hall monitors and teachers who give us "verbal" reprimands or we are
placed in detention until we act "correctly"...
AAaaaahhhhhhh wonder why everyone is going crazy... your all tied up in "duct tape" mouth, hands, fists and legs.. ya, just got to sit there an watch
and listen to take it... for ever...
At least the guys at Khe Sanh were taking it while under orders in the Marines ....
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Somebody purposely 86xing any pet of ours will get one quick and violent a$$ kicking. Don't even get me started.
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Nomads,
This issue touches many of us in different ways and on different levels. I am a cat guy so I understand the urge for swift and efficient
revenge....and, when my ex-spouse was robbed and dumped on the highway by the San Jose airport in 2000 by her taxi driver, it took me two months and
some serious soul-searching to drop my plans to find and exterminate the taxi driver (who we could identify)...not wanting to carry the emotional
trauma of killing someone won over and I let the idea go from the planning stages to managing my emotions differently (and learning more about not
letting wives travel alone in taxis)....
Jesse, don't put yourself in a position where YOU will be the culprit.....my sympathies for the cats and your feelings...
IFF has the most sensible reply to this issue.....
| Quote: | Originally posted by Iflyfish
I don't have pets, allergies, but I know that these animals are a source of unconditional love and there is little enough of that in the world. People
open their hearts to these animals and when they are gone a part of them is gone too.
Grief is a powerful emotion and one that many of us avoid. Under the anger is a whole lot of saddness and with the saddness a profound sense of
vulnerability. Men tend to hold on to and act angry rather than to open up to the more vulnerable feelings.
When my father died I grieved powerfully for an entire year. It takes a long time to finish all the losses that we have experienced in our lives that
are re-stimulated when someone or somethng we love dies or is killed. This is not an easy road.
I am so sorry that you have experienced this loss and one that was clearly avoidable. Expressing our loss is an important part of the grieving process
and you have touched me with yours. We all have experienced losses like this and it hurts!
See you soon.
Iflyfish |
Don't believe everything you think....
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JESSE
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| Quote: | Originally posted by toneart
If unheeded, then perhaps a harmless trap with which to capture the cat(s) would be warranted. |
Guess I missed something. Jesse wrote that his cat was "inside a trap." That in itself does not imply cruelty or torture to me.
I agree, talking to one's neighbor is a more social first step, but I could also conceive of reasons for his not doing so. It's so easy to make
judgement without knowing the complete story...
--Larry |
The complete story is simple, my neighboors and myself have been loosing cats for years, and these are not just street cats, these are cats that are
fixed, usually stay near home, well fed, and most had tags.
My cats don't run around free in the nighborhood, they are usually indoors and i let them out twice a day on my yard for brief periods of time. My
neighboor is putting traps to catch the cats, using chicken and beef, and disposing of the animals.
If he has a problem, he can tell me and i will fix it, but catching my animals and doing who knows what with them is a diferent matter. He has some
small dogs, and has some strange tropical birds that fly around but live in the trees in my yard (crap here as well). So, if his dogs get loose and
enter my property i can do whatever i want with them? what about the birds? should i just shoot them?
What he is doing is just plain wrong.
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DENNIS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by JESSE
What he is doing is just plain wrong. |
You need to organize a neighborhood intervention or something....... doing nothing won't work for you.
Of course what he's doing is wrong, but he'll continue to do it since it seems no one has taken him to task over it.
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Have a talk with him Jesse... Tell him how you feel and what you think. You don't mess with his dogs or birds, so tell him: 'please don't mess with
my cats'.
It may be he is from the moutains of Oaxaca, and thinks the cats are brujas? 
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DENNIS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by David K
It may be he is from the moutains of Oaxaca, and thinks the cats are brujas? |
And it may be that he's just a five-star A-HOLE. 
I agree with you, David. His animals shouldn't be brought into this. They haven't done anything.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by DENNIS
Jeeezo...Whatever happened to the days when you would just go next door and punch a hole in his face? I'll bet, to this day, nobody in that whole
grieving neighborhood has said one word to the guy.
He needs to fully understand the error of his ways or he won't quit killing people's pets. |
I agree. If it were one of my animals I'd fill that colonia with uppercuts.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by DENNIS
It must be one of those typical Mexican neighborhoods where folks never talk with each other. Too busy guarding their privacy. |
Sounds like my neighborhood (and others of mine in the past), right here in the U.S. of A.
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