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[*] posted on 11-14-2010 at 11:19 PM
Thank you , your dad would be proud


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Thanks for the post here....it just confirms that the place is on the up and up. Too many bad stories about this port, yet hardly true at most.

[Edited on 11-14-2010 by mcfez]

Charlie and I were very good friends here. He understood that problems existed with Clara. Obviously this is not a forum to express both sides without predjudice. Sorry if bad stories aren't acceptable. No matter what the legal instances are it is not acceptable to respond by throwing a 30 year residen'ts belongings in the dirt to settle a $7000 debt.
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[*] posted on 11-15-2010 at 07:52 AM


posted on 11-12-2010 at 06:50 PM: BY YOU

They were never given an opportunity to appear in court. This can happen to any American in Baja....This couple purchased their home 30 years ago....always paid the rent.

posted on 11-15-2010 at 06:19 AM: BY YOU

No matter what the legal instances are it is not acceptable to respond by throwing a 30 year resident's belongings in the dirt to settle a $7000 debt.

Well mscowpatty.....since you want to drag me Da into this: I got several emails from your friends ....telling me what a great Gal you are...and ask that I lay back on this one. I tried till you made this personal.

Fact is ...you lied. Plain ol' lied to all of us here at BN, including to your friends. I took two excerpts from posted on 11-12-2010 at 06:50 and posted on 11-15-2010 at 06:19 AM.

You stated that the evicted "always paid the rent".....using a dramatic story telling scheme. Full of holes dear. I even said that on 11-12-2010 at 08:10 PM. ...."story a little off". Thanks for confirming what I really knew........."to settle a $7000 debt".

*to settle: means you knew there was legal action
*debt: means you knew money was owed

The rent down there is somewhere around 2500 per year. The tenant owed for 3 years?! Didnt pay a dime. No good well payments?

The rest of your responses (mostly to beercan) is full of lies. I talked to several tenants there, talked to Clara too, several weeks ago. They said exactly what beercan has said.

This post so far....has 2500 views.
You just did more damage to Puertecitos reputation that Clara and her family! That means damage to Cowpatty because who would to go there and listen to your lies about Puertecitos and Gods know what else. You can see now...where I come from..we show respect to all by never lying, no matter what the case. If you dont have respect, then what do you have? Zero.


You need to "lady up" and apologized here to all. Clear the air.

[Edited on 11-15-2010 by mcfez]




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[*] posted on 11-15-2010 at 08:48 AM


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Who died and made you God? Your points are well taken except your tone of voice and demands. Get a life.
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[*] posted on 11-15-2010 at 08:52 AM
My telling the truth makes it personal ???


Hmmmmmmmmmmm????


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[*] posted on 11-15-2010 at 11:09 AM


Ok, here goes, I have responded to each of your issues with my posts......

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posted on 11-12-2010 at 06:50 PM: BY YOU

They were never given an opportunity to appear in court. This can happen to any American in Baja....This couple purchased their home 30 years ago....always paid the rent.

...... This is true. They never received any court documents. The rents were paid to the Ensenada courts and there is pending judgement on the lease that was to be negoiated.

.........Why is this considered a "lie" that I should apologize for?

posted on 11-15-2010 at 06:19 AM: BY YOU

No matter what the legal instances are it is not acceptable to respond by throwing a 30 year resident's belongings in the dirt to settle a $7000 debt.

................This what the landlord claims is due for back rent. Again, there is pending litigation in Ensenada. The property owners offered to pay the money up front and wait for the Ensenada court judgement.

.................Why is this considered a lie I should apologize for?


Well mscowpatty.....since you want to drag me Da into this: I got several emails from your friends ....telling me what a great Gal you are...and ask that I lay back on this one. I tried till you made this personal.

.............Well, Deno, why is stating what I know are facts bringing you in to this or making it personal? I thought this was a forum????

Fact is ...you lied. Plain ol' lied to all of us here at BN, including to your friends. I took two excerpts from posted on 11-12-2010 at 06:50 and posted on 11-15-2010 at 06:19 AM.

.....Let's look at what you call "lies"

You stated that the evicted "always paid the rent".....using a dramatic story telling scheme. Full of holes dear. I even said that on 11-12-2010 at 08:10 PM. ...."story a little off". Thanks for confirming what I really knew........."to settle a $7000 debt".

......................Their are receipts for all the rents paid since the "negotiation" of contract went to the Ensenada courts. The $7000 "debt" is part of the case that has not been decided in Ensenada.

...................Why does this make me a "liar"? I have signed documentation and copies of receipts from the court to this effect? What is your basis for the name calling?

*to settle: means you knew there was legal action
*debt: means you knew money was owed

.........This is not about me. I am sharing what happened to a tenant, who bought and payed for their home years ago. They pursued the land lease contract through the court system and the decision is still pending. They offered to put the money up for the "alleged debt" as claimed by the landlord and cited in their personal lawsuit against them until a Judge can make a ruling in the case.

.................What part of this makes me a liar and a need to apologize? What are you basing your name calling judgement of me on?

The rent down there is somewhere around 2500 per year. The tenant owed for 3 years?! Didnt pay a dime. No good well payments?


..........Not true. Again, Ensenada has given them receipts for the rent payments since the lease contract went to the court system.

..............................Why does stating this fact make me a liar?
The court documents are available for anyone to see.

The rest of your responses (mostly to beercan) is full of lies. I talked to several tenants there, talked to Clara too, several weeks ago. They said exactly what beercan has said.

Full of lies? Several tenants...do they have the actual info and court documents stating what the facts are? What about the other tenants who have a pending judgement about the lease contract....did you talk to them?

This post so far....has 2500 views.
You just did more damage to Puertecitos reputation that Clara and her family! That means damage to Cowpatty because who would to go there and listen to your lies about Puertecitos and Gods know what else. You can see now...where I come from..we show respect to all by never lying, no matter what the case. If you dont have respect, then what do you have? Zero.

..............Why are we invoking God's name in this? I see no respect being shown to the Mexican legal system or between human beings. Unfortunately it has become starkly clear that personal interests are involved here.

.........Why do you keep deflecting to Cowpatty bar? I don't own it, it puts no money in my pocket. Please don't worry about Cowpatty, it is serving a lot of beer. Beer drinkers dont "give a rat's burro" about this stuff.

.........I have just shared what I have seen, documents I have read from the court and receipts that have been issued by the court. Why does this make me a liar and responsible for Puertecitos' bad reputation? Have you spoken to the Mexican community?


You need to "lady up" and apologized here to all. Clear the air.

.........Really? Are you reliving your high school days? I am sorry the air is not clear in your world. I have no reason to apologize for sharing information about what is going on in this camp. As I stated everything I have written happened, documentation is on file. Photos are on file.

........I haven't called anyone names, accused them of being anything or used inflammatory language. Rose colored glasses can't change the facts.

[Edited on 11-15-2010 by mcfez]
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Horns,

Who died and made you God? Your points are well taken except your tone of voice and demands. Get a life.


Claws.....follow your own advice. How you read the lines with "personalities" injected is flawed. Perhaps the comics be better suited for you.




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[*] posted on 11-15-2010 at 11:50 AM


Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz


Quote:
Originally posted by mscowpatty
Ok, here goes, I have responded to each of your issues with my posts......

Quote:
Originally posted by mcfez
posted on 11-12-2010 at 06:50 PM: BY YOU

They were never given an opportunity to appear in court. This can happen to any American in Baja....This couple purchased their home 30 years ago....always paid the rent.

...... This is true. They never received any court documents. The rents were paid to the Ensenada courts and there is pending judgement on the lease that was to be negoiated.

.........Why is this considered a "lie" that I should apologize for?

posted on 11-15-2010 at 06:19 AM: BY YOU

No matter what the legal instances are it is not acceptable to respond by throwing a 30 year resident's belongings in the dirt to settle a $7000 debt.

................This what the landlord claims is due for back rent. Again, there is pending litigation in Ensenada. The property owners offered to pay the money up front and wait for the Ensenada court judgement.

.................Why is this considered a lie I should apologize for?


Well mscowpatty.....since you want to drag me Da into this: I got several emails from your friends ....telling me what a great Gal you are...and ask that I lay back on this one. I tried till you made this personal.

.............Well, Deno, why is stating what I know are facts bringing you in to this or making it personal? I thought this was a forum????

Fact is ...you lied. Plain ol' lied to all of us here at BN, including to your friends. I took two excerpts from posted on 11-12-2010 at 06:50 and posted on 11-15-2010 at 06:19 AM.

.....Let's look at what you call "lies"

You stated that the evicted "always paid the rent".....using a dramatic story telling scheme. Full of holes dear. I even said that on 11-12-2010 at 08:10 PM. ...."story a little off". Thanks for confirming what I really knew........."to settle a $7000 debt".

......................Their are receipts for all the rents paid since the "negotiation" of contract went to the Ensenada courts. The $7000 "debt" is part of the case that has not been decided in Ensenada.

...................Why does this make me a "liar"? I have signed documentation and copies of receipts from the court to this effect? What is your basis for the name calling?

*to settle: means you knew there was legal action
*debt: means you knew money was owed

.........This is not about me. I am sharing what happened to a tenant, who bought and payed for their home years ago. They pursued the land lease contract through the court system and the decision is still pending. They offered to put the money up for the "alleged debt" as claimed by the landlord and cited in their personal lawsuit against them until a Judge can make a ruling in the case.

.................What part of this makes me a liar and a need to apologize? What are you basing your name calling judgement of me on?

The rent down there is somewhere around 2500 per year. The tenant owed for 3 years?! Didnt pay a dime. No good well payments?


..........Not true. Again, Ensenada has given them receipts for the rent payments since the lease contract went to the court system.

..............................Why does stating this fact make me a liar?
The court documents are available for anyone to see.

The rest of your responses (mostly to beercan) is full of lies. I talked to several tenants there, talked to Clara too, several weeks ago. They said exactly what beercan has said.

Full of lies? Several tenants...do they have the actual info and court documents stating what the facts are? What about the other tenants who have a pending judgement about the lease contract....did you talk to them?

This post so far....has 2500 views.
You just did more damage to Puertecitos reputation that Clara and her family! That means damage to Cowpatty because who would to go there and listen to your lies about Puertecitos and Gods know what else. You can see now...where I come from..we show respect to all by never lying, no matter what the case. If you dont have respect, then what do you have? Zero.

..............Why are we invoking God's name in this? I see no respect being shown to the Mexican legal system or between human beings. Unfortunately it has become starkly clear that personal interests are involved here.

.........Why do you keep deflecting to Cowpatty bar? I don't own it, it puts no money in my pocket. Please don't worry about Cowpatty, it is serving a lot of beer. Beer drinkers dont "give a rat's burro" about this stuff.

.........I have just shared what I have seen, documents I have read from the court and receipts that have been issued by the court. Why does this make me a liar and responsible for Puertecitos' bad reputation? Have you spoken to the Mexican community?


You need to "lady up" and apologized here to all. Clear the air.

.........Really? Are you reliving your high school days? I am sorry the air is not clear in your world. I have no reason to apologize for sharing information about what is going on in this camp. As I stated everything I have written happened, documentation is on file. Photos are on file.

........I haven't called anyone names, accused them of being anything or used inflammatory language. Rose colored glasses can't change the facts.

[Edited on 11-15-2010 by mcfez]




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[*] posted on 11-15-2010 at 03:41 PM


Plenty of bs drama here... we're going down to our camp at Bahia Cristina to fish, drink and watch the race.. taking Richard some more Cow Patty t-shirts for him to sell. Going to hang out there and drink some of his cold ones..
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good one wayno. wish i was with you.



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I have been lurking on this site for quite some time, it is time to speak. I have known Cowpatty for about 20 years and she is the real thing and so is Beercan. My first flight to Baja was in 1979 and i stopped going in 2003. For burros like Mcfez they should keep their mouths shut unless they can come up with there own facts and not what they interpet on this board. I feel better now. Flame on!

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No flame here... I concur...
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hey RV6 mike - nice to have another piloto here.
why have you stopped going? where do you base?

i'd like to see a bunch of nomad pilots do a fly in some time maybe to PSFO alfi's or where ever.
maybe we can crash Beercan's shack?? bad pun....:light:




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Capt. Mike,

Years ago I had a customer( Ken Bondy) who went to PSF all the time and introduced me to Baja. Most of my trips where to PSF or Puerticitos. We bought a motorhome in 2004 and made it all the way to Cabo and starting using it more than the other RV. I am based at Hawthorne and just fly in the States now. With all the action in Mexico the wife is iffy on going down again. Really do miss the place.
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can't blame you there. a lot of guys have quit with all the eAPIS dhs nonsense.
takes the ease and fun out of it.
but it beats taking comm'l liners anywhere....scanners, groping,...TSA is out of control!!

on second thought...i will start heightened security measures on my flights.
all females are to be vigorously groped prior to boarding. Those that like it are welcome to go thru the line again.:spingrin:




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I like your style Mike, if things start looking up I will be the first one down. Laughlin would be a good choice for a gathering for those of us that no longer go down.My 6 is only a two seater but i also fly a RV-10 if more seats are needed.
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Capt. Mike,

Years ago I had a customer( Ken Bondy) who went to PSF all the time and introduced me to Baja. Most of my trips where to PSF or Puerticitos. We bought a motorhome in 2004 and made it all the way to Cabo and starting using it more than the other RV. I am based at Hawthorne and just fly in the States now. With all the action in Mexico the wife is iffy on going down again. Really do miss the place.


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Hello Ken.
Things are going good, yes I saw the report about Jim a great guy.
I am still flying but using the motorhome more & more. The wife is retiring in Feb. and we are going to do a 2 month trip around the west. Thanks again about the cement for my patio, We used a colored cement and had it stamped. I did a bit more than you said with the rebar and feel sorry for anybody that decides to remove it.

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I have been lurking on this site for quite some time, it is time to speak. I have known Cowpatty for about 20 years and she is the real thing and so is Beercan. My first flight to Baja was in 1979 and i stopped going in 2003. For burros like Mcfez they should keep their mouths shut unless they can come up with there own facts and not what they interpet on this board. I feel better now. Flame on!

Mike


Well Mike....I aint going to start the immature game of name calling . I am sure that you are a swell guy. I am too.

".....and not what they interpet on this board"
Wrong. Read my postings again. My facts came straight from the owner of the camp and tenants of that camp, not from information of others posting on this website. I was there a month ago. My statements were backed up by following postings of others (beercan and a few others).

There were obvious conflicting statements made (in her own words) from Patti Krall .

[Edited on 11-17-2010 by mcfez]




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Krall? any relation to Diane - i love her music!



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