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DENNIS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by JESSE
nation A spends 20 billion on war on drugs
nation B spends 300 million on war on drugs
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Slight correction:
Nation A [Mexico] spends 20 billion on war on drugs
Nation B [USA] spends 300 million on Nation A's war on drugs
Quit fighting the gawdam war. Let your country go to the cartels. Your war isn't about drugs....it's about control. It's about who sits in your Pink
House. It's about who the next dictator will be. It's about which scumball your kids will grow up idolizing.
Someone earlier mentioned "Mexican Pride." What a joke. Mexico's most notible accomplishment to date has been to host the growth of the most
insidious development of crime known to man.
Now....there's something to be proud of.
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JESSE
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| Quote: | Originally posted by DENNIS
| Quote: | Originally posted by JESSE
nation A spends 20 billion on war on drugs
nation B spends 300 million on war on drugs
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Slight correction:
Nation A [Mexico] spends 20 billion on war on drugs
Nation B [USA] spends 300 million on Nation A's war on drugs
Quit fighting the gawdam war. Let your country go to the cartels. Your war isn't about drugs....it's about control. It's about who sits in your Pink
House. It's about who the next dictator will be. It's about which scumball your kids will grow up idolizing.
Someone earlier mentioned "Mexican Pride." What a joke. Mexico's most notible accomplishment to date has been to host the growth of the most
insidious development of crime known to man.
Now....there's something to be proud of. |
You forgot to take your medications again.
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DENNIS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by JESSE
You forgot to take your medications again. |
No. No drinking or forgotten meds. Your lame response only tells me you agree, but are too proud [oh lord...there's that word again] to admit it.
And....your comment which started all of this wasn't just a result of your critical analysis. It was a button you shouldn't have pushed.
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sanquintinsince73
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'I am glad we ain't spending a dime on U.S. equipment" was your statement, Jesse. Your hatred of the U.S.A. is evident but I realize that this is
par-for-the-course in Mexico. Come clean Jesse. I've lived in Mexico and one thing that became very clear early on is the fact that Mexicans hate
Americans. Maybe it's the fact that we (yes, I am of Mexican ancestry but I am American first) are a rich country and are able to travel abroad as
tourists and the majority of Mexicans cannot. That is not my fault. Maybe if your countrymen had had the cojones to overthrow the ruling party during
70 years of corruption and oppression Mexico would be able to enjoy it's riches. Your sentiments about the United States are exactly what I
encountered every day in my 6 years of living in Mexico. If you travel to Los Angeles you see more Mexican flags that American flags. When I moved to
Baja I put up my American flag and I think it lasted a week before someone came and tore it down. My second flag lasted only about a day and it was
ripped to shreds.
Mr. Jesse, you hate and resent Americans but you love the almighty dollar.
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sanquintinsince73
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....and Mexico does not need these planes. They have enough C-130's.
What they should do is turn them into Spectre Gunships.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F6i3Pdm0jP4
[Edited on 11-13-2010 by sanquintinsince73]
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mtgoat666
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| Quote: | Originally posted by sanquintinsince73
'I've lived in Mexico and one thing that became very clear early on is the fact that Mexicans hate Americans. |
seems to me that too many gringos hate mexicans. what is it about you self-centered gringos that take offense at anyone that criticizes the US? why
are you so thin skinned? why are your so sure that you are right?
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sanquintinsince73
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| Quote: | Originally posted by mtgoat666
| Quote: | Originally posted by sanquintinsince73
'I've lived in Mexico and one thing that became very clear early on is the fact that Mexicans hate Americans. |
seems to me that too many gringos hate mexicans. what is it about you self-centered gringos that take offense at anyone that criticizes the US? why
are you so thin skinned? why are your so sure that you are right? |
Although myself and my parents were born in the states I now have felt the hatred that you talk about. Ignorant people put all of us brown-skinned
people in the same group. But it is the fault of your illegal aliens waving their flags and burning mine while marching on our streets demanding
citizenship. When my grandparents came to this nation in the mid-20's they assimilated and became proud Americans. They weren't running around waving
their former flag demanding their "rights". These people nowadays yell "viva Mexico", wave the flag of the country that betrayed them, and demand
their "rights". I just don't get it and quite frankly, I am ashamed of them.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wrh9zcv3IDY
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| Quote: | Originally posted by sanquintinsince73
| Quote: | Originally posted by mtgoat666
| Quote: | Originally posted by sanquintinsince73
'I've lived in Mexico and one thing that became very clear early on is the fact that Mexicans hate Americans. |
seems to me that too many gringos hate mexicans. what is it about you self-centered gringos that take offense at anyone that criticizes the US? why
are you so thin skinned? why are your so sure that you are right? |
Although myself and my parents were born in the states I now have felt the hatred that you talk about. Ignorant people put all of us brown-skinned
people in the same group. But it is the fault of your illegal aliens waving their flags and burning mine while marching on our streets demanding
citizenship. When my grandparents came to this nation in the mid-20's they assimilated and became proud Americans. They weren't running around waving
their former flag demanding their "rights". These people nowadays yell "viva Mexico", wave the flag of the country that betrayed them, and demand
their "rights". I just don't get it and quite frankly, I am ashamed of them.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wrh9zcv3IDY |
there you go again
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sanquintinsince73
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MTgoat: I am assuming that you are a national. So let me ask you this: What the hell happened? Mexicans were once a proud people who kicked a little a
$$ on the Spaniards and the French. They were proud and fierce warriors who fought long and hard for independence. Now all you hear is their war cry
of "we demand our rights". Can you imagine the place Mexico would be if those same people had protested over there instead of here? It is unfortunate
that the government helps perpetuate some of this American hatred so that you people won't realize that the real problem is your own government.
Whatever happened to "Si se puede"? That is just another example of how the government manipulates the "Titeres", but I suppose that I am the only one
who see's it; you obviously don't or don't want to.
[Edited on 11-13-2010 by sanquintinsince73]
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Damn, some people have very, very thin skin.
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can a peace loving logical realist chime in?
Jesse. wow read that statement and I have to say that I certainly understand the anger that some posters are conveying against the attitude and that
I agree with it. but its ok to disagree and I would never hold your business against your opinions. everyone has their right to their opinion its
cool.
what i take issue with is the attitude that Mexico demands anything. dont you know you recieve what you ask for or demand and expect? where do you
think the big money going from USA to foreign countries? its going to war torn areas or some kind of defense and armament. Do you as a Mexican want
that here? Think about it.
I am an expat US citizen born in USA but now a Mexican. Mexican children, extended family my roots are here I go to USA less than twice a decade. I
do not want war to come into my land and I do not want to have to escape with my children across the border while we leave my husband and his family
behind. Please look at this reality I hope it never happens. But if we as a nation keep making demands of money or gifts from another then we will
have to take on the responsibility of the adhering to the strings that are attached to them.
If we get out of this pattern of being victims and blaming so as to avoid responsibility. we can rise up and take care of ourselves as a nation
because we have every single thing that it takes to do so right here. Educate yourself, become independent and self sufficient and you will refuse to
become a dependent. Dependence equals misery because its slavery.
peace!
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sanquintinsince73
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| Quote: | Originally posted by flyfishinPam
can a peace loving logical realist chime in?
Jesse. wow read that statement and I have to say that I certainly understand the anger that some posters are conveying against the attitude and that
I agree with it. but its ok to disagree and I would never hold your business against your opinions. everyone has their right to their opinion its
cool.
what i take issue with is the attitude that Mexico demands anything. dont you know you recieve what you ask for or demand and expect? where do you
think the big money going from USA to foreign countries? its going to war torn areas or some kind of defense and armament. Do you as a Mexican want
that here? Think about it.
I am an expat US citizen born in USA but now a Mexican. Mexican children, extended family my roots are here I go to USA less than twice a decade. I
do not want war to come into my land and I do not want to have to escape with my children across the border while we leave my husband and his family
behind. Please look at this reality I hope it never happens. But if we as a nation keep making demands of money or gifts from another then we will
have to take on the responsibility of the adhering to the strings that are attached to them.
If we get out of this pattern of being victims and blaming so as to avoid responsibility. we can rise up and take care of ourselves as a nation
because we have every single thing that it takes to do so right here. Educate yourself, become independent and self sufficient and you will refuse to
become a dependent. Dependence equals misery because its slavery.
peace! |
Couldn't have said it better myself.
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JESSE
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| Quote: | Originally posted by flyfishinPam
can a peace loving logical realist chime in?
Jesse. wow read that statement and I have to say that I certainly understand the anger that some posters are conveying against the attitude and that
I agree with it. but its ok to disagree and I would never hold your business against your opinions. everyone has their right to their opinion its
cool.
what i take issue with is the attitude that Mexico demands anything. dont you know you recieve what you ask for or demand and expect? where do you
think the big money going from USA to foreign countries? its going to war torn areas or some kind of defense and armament. Do you as a Mexican want
that here? Think about it.
I am an expat US citizen born in USA but now a Mexican. Mexican children, extended family my roots are here I go to USA less than twice a decade. I
do not want war to come into my land and I do not want to have to escape with my children across the border while we leave my husband and his family
behind. Please look at this reality I hope it never happens. But if we as a nation keep making demands of money or gifts from another then we will
have to take on the responsibility of the adhering to the strings that are attached to them.
If we get out of this pattern of being victims and blaming so as to avoid responsibility. we can rise up and take care of ourselves as a nation
because we have every single thing that it takes to do so right here. Educate yourself, become independent and self sufficient and you will refuse to
become a dependent. Dependence equals misery because its slavery.
peace! |
Maybe its a cultural issue, but i frankly can't understand what all the fuzz is about. Did i lied? did i said something that isn't true? i mean, this
is binational problem right? supply here and demand there. Why is is it soo bad to say that the US is not spending enough? when it isn't?
I just don't get it. I am constantly reading truly nasty UNTRUE anti-mexico things here and i don't complain, but i state a fact, and i have an
attitude problem?
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DENNIS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by JESSE
I just don't get it. I am constantly reading truly nasty UNTRUE anti-mexico things here and i don't complain, but i state a fact, and i have an
attitude problem?
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US aid to Mexico is frankly embarrasing, 300 million in "equipment" mostly during all of these years, while Mexico spends almost 10 billion a year
only in the federal police. Add the military, state and local programs, navy, PGR, and intelligence spending to fight the drug cartels, and you can
understand my initial remarks.
I am glad we ain't spending a dime buying US made equipment. |
Your statement was belligerent and inflamatory and to make matters worse, you follow up with patented Mexican denial and blame shifting.
You can't deny what you said or how you said it. You're left with only damage control. You should attend to that instead of trying to rewrite history.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by JESSE
| Quote: | Originally posted by flyfishinPam
can a peace loving logical realist chime in?
Jesse. wow read that statement and I have to say that I certainly understand the anger that some posters are conveying against the attitude and that
I agree with it. but its ok to disagree and I would never hold your business against your opinions. everyone has their right to their opinion its
cool.
what i take issue with is the attitude that Mexico demands anything. dont you know you recieve what you ask for or demand and expect? where do you
think the big money going from USA to foreign countries? its going to war torn areas or some kind of defense and armament. Do you as a Mexican want
that here? Think about it.
I am an expat US citizen born in USA but now a Mexican. Mexican children, extended family my roots are here I go to USA less than twice a decade. I
do not want war to come into my land and I do not want to have to escape with my children across the border while we leave my husband and his family
behind. Please look at this reality I hope it never happens. But if we as a nation keep making demands of money or gifts from another then we will
have to take on the responsibility of the adhering to the strings that are attached to them.
If we get out of this pattern of being victims and blaming so as to avoid responsibility. we can rise up and take care of ourselves as a nation
because we have every single thing that it takes to do so right here. Educate yourself, become independent and self sufficient and you will refuse to
become a dependent. Dependence equals misery because its slavery.
peace! |
Maybe its a cultural issue, but i frankly can't understand what all the fuzz is about. Did i lied? did i said something that isn't true? i mean, this
is binational problem right? supply here and demand there. Why is is it soo bad to say that the US is not spending enough? when it isn't?
I just don't get it. I am constantly reading truly nasty UNTRUE anti-mexico things here and i don't complain, but i state a fact, and i have an
attitude problem?
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Jesse, the US pays far more than $300 million on the demand problem. You throw around figures without giving a source. I do not agree with your
"facts" and see them merely as your opinion.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Bajaboy
Jesse, the US pays far more than $300 million on the demand problem. You throw around figures without giving a source. I do not agree with your
"facts" and see them merely as your opinion. |
He believes what he reads in the newspapers. You know....the newspapers that say it's all our fault.
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sanquintinsince73
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Jesse & MTgoat:
I hope you two clowns have learned something; keep your hatred of America and it's people to yourselves. I have alot of pride in my country and I
would die for my flag just as many, many others already have. When you spew your hatred of the United States not only do you offend me, but I look at
it as an attack on those who sacrificed their lives to make this country what it is today.
Just as the Palestinians are taught from a very early age to hate Israeli's, the people of Mexico learn from a very early age that America is a bad
place and that we hate Mexico. So many times I've asked people who are here illegally if they love the U.S.A. and the majority of the time the
response is: "F*** the U.S., I'm just here for the money".
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sanquintinsince73
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Jesse, the US pays far more than $300 million on the demand problem. You throw around figures without giving a source. I do not agree with your
"facts" and see them merely as your opinion. |
He believes what he reads in the newspapers. You know....the newspapers that say it's all our fault. |
Yeah, you should hear the anti-American rhetoric on canal 12 out of TJ and these are news people who are suppose to be impartial.
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DENNIS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by sanquintinsince73
the response is: "F*** the U.S., I'm just here for the money". |
You do have to admire an honest man. Give him a Green Card for honesty. 
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DENNIS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by sanquintinsince73
these are news people who are suppose to be impartial. |
They are...to the government line. It's nothing new. I think the US made that technique famous.
The best part of a Mexican newscast is the cleavage.
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