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[*] posted on 12-15-2010 at 09:22 AM


"If you think that the US military is not involved in "operations" (define that any way you want) in Mexico, you are not dealing in reality........"

Delta Forces... AWAC's.. Sat Intel... et al... they don't have to have boots on the ground... at this time... per sea... but, defiantly agree with Bajaguy... we are helping "Identify, define, adopt a course of action, and then implement the plan...

This is the same approach used 80- 90's for the Columbia and Panama (with a more direct knowledge of Panama) which lead to the death of that structure which existed till around mid 1990's

We have our collective ears on at all times... if you don't think so ... start counting from last year around August and September.. to around yesterday ... the number of "Heads" of Cartels and /or leaders of factions... that are being moved across the border post haste to receive a sentence and "Stateside Jail" time.. like for the rest of their lives... no death sentences... just life in jail.. keeps Mexico happy... with the deal

Also check the number of "heads" of cartels that have been taken "OUT" PERIOD!!!

There has a been a significant response to the physical force used by the traffickers... it would appear they have crossed the line... money is one thing... cutting heads, and doing 20 folks at a time... is bad for business... and gets you front page news... anyone on the dark side knows what that means long term....

They have to knock them back a few years in their (Cartels) operational control over things and their overall importance ... to the populous

Still have "snow" coming out of Columbia... but, not with the same degree of mayhem which was occurring under Escobar... he went too far... and got too big... which caused him to be taken out....

These guys (Mexicans) have been smuggling pot and smack for a long while... they have just moved into another league after picking up the slack from the demise of the Medina Cartels among others to the south... in 1993....

Given that the President of Bolivia chews the coca leaf, as do many, many other native people of the area ... don't see things really changing all that much... long term.. the plant can be used in its natural state for medical purposes... and has been for thousand of years... that gringo's what to make it into something else would not appear to be the fault of the plant, nor the folks that grow coca..

Maybe they should just legalize the use of "chewing the leaf"... doesn't seem to have negatively impacted these cultures which have been using it for a few thousand years... just for a jump start, much like coffee... but much cheaper...

Oh no, money again... coffee, crack, mota... gee what's a guy have to do for a fix... was watching an old movie the other night... a cup of coffee 5 cents... now those were the good old days... a dollar would last a couple of days.. coffee and smokes too... wow..... ya I know ... smoke will kill you...

But, did you know that Samuel Clemens smoked 40 cigars a day ... he made it to 74.... my Grandfather smoke camels.. and would get cowboy drunk when he and his brother Claude got together ... 78 was the last straw, had to bail them out of the Long Beach jail (had been over playing cards in Gardena all day and night) ... both like to drink bourbon straight from the bottle ... play poker and would smoke up a storm.. Grandfather made it to 104, Claude, who did a quart of bourbon a day... (some said he was an alcoholic, he said he said he was just thirsty) and maybe two to three packs of smokes.. he made it to 89... and he ate bacon for breakfast just about everyday...

Grate Grandfather Campbell made it to 106... smoked and drank too... was Scottish Irish ... they got here (VA) in 1812 from Ireland... had gotten tired of growing potatoes ..........

Hey, that's it... supplant coca.. with potatoes for vodka... potatoes are native plants here too... along with coca..

Maybe they could make a "RedMan" with coca leaf .... now talk about a chew....




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[*] posted on 12-15-2010 at 09:24 AM


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I've been thinking alot about this "military intervention" that is making the rounds. I concluded that if the media is already talking about it, it is probably because it's already been talked about in the highest levels of our government.
I do not believe that we'll ever see our forces on the ground in Mexico unless the situation deteriorates so badly that Americans have to be evacuated or Mexico plunges into civil war.
I was once under house arrest at Camp Pendleton and part of my "punishment" was to go wash some Colonels car every day. He was cool and we started started talking politics. I asked about a situation arising in Mexico and his response was that the United States has contingency plans to invade any country in the world, even our allies. He also stated that the United States would never allow a revolution/civil war in Mexico.
I think eventually we will start to see "advisers" in Mexico.......sound familiar?


Yes, def sounds familiar- but not on our doorstep. Of course the US Military has contingency plans for every possible scenario. I'd be very disappointed in the trillions we spend if we didn't. If there is an evacuation plan for US Citizens out of Mexico- it would be nice if they shared it with us. There would be a million Mexicans heading north, doing the same thing and we need to know how to get to the front of the line.




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[*] posted on 12-15-2010 at 02:24 PM


Congressman Calls on Obama to Take Illegal Immigration 'Seriously' Following Death of Border Agent

Published December 15, 2010

| FoxNews.com


The incoming chairman of the House Judiciary Committee said the shooting death of a U.S. Border Patrol agent is a "sad reminder" of the dangers law enforcement officers face on a daily basis and called on the Obama administration to secure the U.S.-Mexico border.

House Judiciary Committee Chairman Elect Lamar Smith, R-Texas, said the killing of Brian A. Terry in southern Arizona late Tuesday should serve as wake-up call to President Obama and his administration.

"The Obama administration’s lax enforcement of immigration laws, coupled with calls for mass amnesty, only encourage more illegal immigration," Smith said in a statement released Wednesday. "Our border remains porous and the Obama administration has done nothing to stop the steady flow of human and drug smuggling from Mexico."

Agent Brian A. Terry, 40, was killed late Tuesday near Rio Rico, Ariz., according to a statement released by U.S. Customs and Border Protection (CBP) officials. At least four suspects are in custody and another is still being pursued.

The leader of a union representing Border Patrol agents said Terry was trying to catch bandits who target illegal immigrants for robbery.

National Border Patrol Council President T.J. Bonner said Terry was waiting with three other agents in a remote area north of Nogales when a gun battle began. A CBP spokesman would not confirm that account.

Prior to Terry's death, the last fatal shooting of a Border Patrol agent was on July 23, 2009, when Robert Rosas, 30, was killed by unidentified assailants while responding to suspicious activity in a known smuggling corridor near Campo, Calif., CBP officials said.

Since 2005, according to Smith's statement, roughly 28,000 people have been killed along the U.S.-Mexico border, including 1,000 law enforcement officers.

"The murder of Border Patrol Agent Brian Terry is a sad reminder of the real-life dangers that Americans and our law enforcement agents face along the southwest border," Smith's statement continued. "What will it take to make the Obama administration realize that we must do more to secure our border and keep Americans safe? Earlier this year, a rancher in Arizona was killed on his own property. The suspect is believed to have been an illegal immigrant. Last night, Border Patrol Agent Terry lost his life for simply doing his job. How many more Americans will die before the Obama administration wakes up and starts taking illegal immigration seriously?"




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