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bbbait
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Hi Max, didn't realize that was you. I know where Christina is, we pulled in there a couple of years ago and looked around. There was a place for sale
there, Guess you bought it. Thanks for the storage offer but doubt we will need it. We will be moving everything south as we go. Just prefer to ride
the bikes rather than trailering them. Still putting loose ends together here, will keep in touch. Wayno
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mcgyver
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Malarrimo Trip
Wayno, I was down to Puertocitos last week and they were working on the pot holes south of KM 34. From KM54 to Puertocitos watch out for deep holes in
the vados where the ore haulers have collasped the old rock culverts under them, not all are marked, maybe with just 3 Tecate cans. They are big
enough to swallow a MC front wheel. The road on to HW 1 is good but washboarded as usual, no storms in sight yet. I am waiting for input before I know
when we will be at Malarrimo . I'll be leaving for Puertocitos about Sept 27th or so, see you in Baja!
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Bob H
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If we could shoot for doing this November 11, 12, 13 and 14th... that would be GREAT!
Bob H
The SAME boiling water that softens the potato hardens the egg. It's about what you are made of NOT the circumstance.
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mcgyver
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Malarimmo Trip
OK, BobH let see what the others say! I might go twice if I liked it! How many of you have been to Bahia Guadlupe across Valle Agua Amarga on on to
Punta Remedios passed the airplane crash?
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Hook
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I'm interested, depending on the dates and...
....whether my rig will get me close to the beach. F350 4x4 with a 9-4 Lance. Probably about 9300 lbs and NOT a dually.
I'd be most interested in the Guadalupe, San Borja and Malarrimo legs of the trip. Prefer not to come thru Puertecitos and Cocos.
Also, my vote is for October as the weather should be much better on the pacific side and not bad around Guadalupe. I have seen Guadalupe from the
water....that might be more amazing that Malarrimo.
Do you guys use VHF radios on the road? FRS? CBs?
[Edited on 8-25-2004 by Hook]
[Edited on 8-25-2004 by Hook]
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mcgyver
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Malarrimo/San Borja/Guadalupe Trip
Hook, I agree on the October dates on account of the weather, we need others that are for sure they would go to chime in. I don't know about your rig
going to San Borja, if the road was in good shape and you are confident in your tires handeling sharp rock I would say go, if not and the camper comes
off easily leaving it at the Rancho at Agua Amarga should not be a problem, I have left my Motor Home there before. Again you know your rigs
capabilities better than I so going across the dry lake bed and to the entrance of Mesa de Yuby should not be a problem, then there is some soft sand
and dodging boulders and trees , after you get to the beach there are road/trails that run behind the sand dunes so you don,t have to drive on the
beach. Some wonderful camping. I would think that the same applies to Malarrimo that getting to the rear of the beach is not a problem. How about it
Cristobal? you and me are the only for sure's so far , can Hook make it via your route in? And what say surfer jim?
I am KD7YLX so I run 2 meters on the racing freqs and FRS and CB, if you don't bring some one along you will be talking to your self!! I can easily
spend 10 days on a trip like this ( San Borja alone) but have to be in Yuma 17 to 21 November and then would have to return to Puertocitos for a few
days rest and reload before leaving again so as I said the earlier the better. I may make 2 trips out of it because I definately want to go back to
both San Borga and Guadalupe and have time to explore. I know they are worth the effort, I don't know Malarrimo yet.
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Bob H
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Hook, We're running a super duty F250 4x4 with a 9'6" Lance cabover. I'd prefer to drop it like Max says and head in there without it. We have taken
this rig South of San Felipe all the way through Gonzaga, Cocos and out at Lake Chapala, but we went real S L O..... W if you know what I mean.
Setting this up at Papa's for a few days of fishing and kayaking was a blast.
Bob H
The SAME boiling water that softens the potato hardens the egg. It's about what you are made of NOT the circumstance.
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mcgyver
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Malarimmo Beach Trip etc.
Bob h. & Hook, I have never had a problem in all of Baja leaving a rig with some rancher or lantera, the only thing I have ever had stolen was a cell
phone at the Army checkpoint at EL Chinero last year, the joke was on them, it was a Traqphone and no good in Mexico or anywhere else for that matter.
My next trip back I told the CO and also told him that for 1 ,I would not be passing out anymore Cokes, double AA batteries, coffee when its cold or
anything else like I used to, they have gotten rather demanding anyway for someone whose's salary is paid by the USA. Other than them I would trust
about any rancher.
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surfer jim
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I'm on the sidelines for this....won't decide until week before if I go as I don't plan ahead very far....I would probably meet you somewhere on the
highway...Chapla? and join from there....
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David K
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Side trip to Bahia Guadalupe and Punta Candelero
Since you are talking about heading up there, here are the GPS numbers (NAD27). The kids and I camped at Guadalupe (Remedios) Bay and Punta Candelero
after Christmas in 2002. Photos at http://vivabaja.com/1202
Side trip to Bahia Guadalupe and Punta Candelero
Leave the L.A. Bay highway and head northwest then northeast across the Laguna Amarga dry lake: 29?01.27'/ 113?47.76'
Come to Arroyo Mesa de Yubay and 'T' junction of roads: 29?11.27'/ 113?47.15', right turn next two waypoints.
Road Fork, go left for next waypoint: 29?11.84'/ 113?40.20'
Bahia Guadalupe (Remedios): 29?12.37'/ 113?39.27'
Continuing north from 'T' junction, above....
Come to dry lake bed of 'Laguna Seca': 29?13.87'/ 113?50.67'
Road turns sharp from north to east: 29?17.50'/ 113?50.51'
Junction with Arroyo Los Candeleros: 29?20.16'/ 113?46.81'
Gulf Coast near Punta Candelero: 29?22.60'/ 113?44.50'
[Edited on 8-26-2004 by David K]
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jrbaja
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David
have you been to Malarrimo, Bahia Tortugas and the Asuncion areas?
Because, I heard there was this mission!!
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David K
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NO!!! (so much Baja, so little time) 
There IS a 'Lost mission' in the Sierra Santa Clara (north of ABREOJOS)
I wanna GO!!!
[Edited on 8-26-2004 by David K]
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mcgyver
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Malarrimo Beach
Ok, We have several maybe's, one who wants Nov, 11,12, 13 and 14 , one after Thanksgiving and one wants one week notice. We have Wayneo's group in
October and DesertBulls group but they will only be one night and all MC's and some guy from San Diego who runs commerical tours who does not want us
to go at all! We have plenty of time so everyone who is a "I would like to go" or a "Maybe" don't be a "Wish I had went" get on here and talk about
it! and we will see what it looks like in September. As a side trip you should not miss San Borja.
David K has lots of pictures about San Borja, you can ride the donkeys and there are missing cave paintings to be searched for that have only been
seen one time by a missionary and 1000s of square miles of the best desert secenery in Baja.
David K. link us to some of this??? Please!!!
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David K
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YES SIR!!!
Mision San Francisco Borja. The furthest north cut stone mission church. Finished by the Dominicans in 1801.
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David K
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Montevideo has very colorful pictographs you can drive right to... off the San Borja road.
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David K
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Las Tinajitas is a more remote site near San Borja... hire Jose or his son to guide you, and be prepared for Baja pin stripes!
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David K
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Blue palms and boojums grow out of boulders at this site northwest of Tinaja de Yubay ('Rock Palm Hill')!
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David K
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Jose's kids brought out their mule for Sarah and Andee to ride at San Borja... NICE PEOPLE!
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David K
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Jose and Family
Great People!
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jrbaja
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From what I am seeing actually living here
"and some guy from San Diego who runs commerical tours who does not want us to go at all!"
There are so many "people" that have been on vacations to Baja that have the $ to start some "expertise on Baja Vacations" , that wherever they
take the suckers that bite, there will probably be 10 other "stepford tours" showing whales, cave paintings, and the usual "wild" Baja stuff.
On the other hand, there are a few out there that will show you what it is really about. Say freediving for Groupers for instance.
Try to get that from a club friggen med or a san diego "o-fishy-o-nada" travel guide!
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