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DianaT
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Bajafun777
With your sentri now you get finger printed by customs again if you request to get the Global Entry stamps on your passport for quicker admit back
into USA upon your return from your travels. This may be what your talking about. Now, I have seen people that see the other lane going up the hill
open at Tecate thinking they can use that lane and Bam find out no go but too late. So, they beg for cut in or back down the hill. It has been a
while since I used Tecate border to exit, so this may not be the case now. Take Care & Travel Safe---- "No Hurry, No Worry, Just FUN"
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Thanks---now I remember my sister did mention an additional stamp which must have been the Global Entry Stamps. She said it was great. When they
flew to the US from Europe, others had to wait in a long line to be processed and they just breezed on through!
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WOW, hope you don't live in a glass house!!!
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nope, wood frame/stucco. 
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DianaT
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Bajahowodd
So maybe as was mentioned, the holiday was the cause of a major back up. However, I have previously suggested that the wonderful improvements to the
highway between Ensenada and Tecate would lead to major delays at the fence, in that the Tecate crossing has so few gates available.
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The highway gets better and better and there was more traffic on it, but we assumed that was because of the holiday.
Only problem with the highway where they have widened it through the hills before Tecate is that it has almost created another lane that reminds me of
the old Highway 99 suicide lane.
The slow trucks pull way over on the shoulder so if the people on the other side of the road are not riding the middle line, there is room to pass.
System worked quite well, except with the blind curves, there is always a question as to what is coming the other way and in which part of their lane
they are driving.
Beautiful trip through those mountains.
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DENNIS
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I never felt that the improvements to the road would increase traffic to Tecate significantly. It's still contrary to most travelers destination, San
Diego, and the winding roads scare off many. The additional distance is still another issue.
I think the crossing will be relatively quiet for some time....at least until SY and OTAY become completely unbearable.
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Wasn't Me!!
It is a small world as this thread shows!! I am glad it was fessed up to because I was getting nervous! I sport Baja
Nomad but it wasn't me!!
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DENNIS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Dave
Those who regularly cross at Tecate don't tolerate cutting in line, period. |
Pretty good excercise in Citizenship when a part of society works in concert with the police for the common good.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by fixtrauma
It is a small world as this thread shows!! I am glad it was fessed up to because I was getting nervous! I sport Baja
Nomad but it wasn't me!! |
Who 'fessed up? I didn't see that. You're still a Nomad of interest.
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One thing worst than ......
You all need to stop complaining about the insane lines. It could had been worst for you.........just imagine if Goat was in the same car with you in
that line 
Old people are like the old cars, made of some tough stuff. May show a little rust, but good as gold on the inside.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by bajaguy
SENTRI costs
$122.25 per person x 2 = $144.50
$42.00 vehicle fee
$186.50 total cost
$186.50 divided by 5 (SENTRI is good for 5 years) = $37.30 yr
$37.30 yearly cost divided by 6 (# of crossings per year) = $6.21.............
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A "do-over" is needed on the math here btw. 
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| Quote: | | Originally posted by BajaNomad... A "do-over" is needed on the math here btw. |
Doug, you are soooo diplomatic. Pity more of your forum users don't practice the same habit. 
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| Quote: | Originally posted by BajaNomad
| Quote: | Originally posted by bajaguy
SENTRI costs
$122.25 per person x 2 = $144.50
$42.00 vehicle fee
$186.50 total cost
$186.50 divided by 5 (SENTRI is good for 5 years) = $37.30 yr
$37.30 yearly cost divided by 6 (# of crossings per year) = $6.21.............
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A "do-over" is needed on the math here btw. |
Corrected...........it's still a bargan!!!!
[Edited on 7-7-2011 by bajaguy]
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Dave
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| Quote: | Originally posted by DENNIS
Pretty good excercise in Citizenship when a part of society works in concert with the police for the common good.
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Did you ever think you'd make this comment relating to Mexicans or Mexico?
Aren't these the same people who tend to ignore stop signs?
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Dave
Did you ever think you'd make this comment relating to Mexicans or Mexico?
Aren't these the same people who tend to ignore stop signs? |
"Hope springs eternal"
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It coulda' been us!
I was hoping to keep this secret but with guilt I have been feeling from reading this thread I can no longer be silent.
We cut in line at Tecate on our return a couple of months ago. We now feel so guilt-ridden that we are truly contemplating driving back to the
crossing, cutting in line again, then taking ourselves out of line and going to the back of the line. Perhaps it was because we got in line at exactly
2:43 p.m. that our criminal behavior went unnoticed.
We do feel somewhat better copping out, but still I think we need to do more; maybe take ourselves out of line twice?
Or perhaps seek some sort of professional therapy...
We solemly promise to do something.
John & Barbara
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| Quote: | Originally posted by John M
I was hoping to keep this secret but with guilt I have been feeling from reading this thread I can no longer be silent.
We cut in line at Tecate on our return a couple of months ago. We now feel so guilt-ridden that we are truly contemplating driving back to the
crossing, cutting in line again, then taking ourselves out of line and going to the back of the line. Perhaps it was because we got in line at exactly
2:43 p.m. that our criminal behavior went unnoticed.
We do feel somewhat better copping out, but still I think we need to do more; maybe take ourselves out of line twice?
Or perhaps seek some sort of professional therapy...
We solemly promise to do something.
John & Barbara |
Maybe throw yourselves into some stocks on the public square in Tecate for a day or two---that should cure your guilt.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by ncampion
OK, I’ll fess up, however you also get to hear the full story. As we live more or less full time in Loreto, we travel back and forth to the US about
6 – 8 times a year. I don’t so much mind the drive, I actually like the solitude and beauty of the Baja peninsula, but I absolutely dread the lengthy
(and getting worse) wait to cross the border. Our actual time at the booth is about 30 seconds after waiting two hours or more! So on this trip
North we decided to heed the advice of several Nomads and drive the little extra distance and cross at Tecate instead of our usual SY or Otay
crossing. Since we have never done this before, we were navigating through Tecate carefully watching for the “Border Crossing” signs. Actually the
signage was pretty good and we had no trouble finding our way. We finally came to the line leading up the hill to the border and saw a “Border
Crossing” sign indicating that we should turn left, which we did and merged in front of a white car with CA plates. I guess it is true that we “cut
in line” as there were 4 or 5 cars in line around the corner from where we made the left turn. The young girl driving the white car stood on her horn
for about five minutes as if this was a life or death situation. About 40 minutes later, at the top of the hill, a Mexican cop approaches, talks to
the white car a minute then comes up to our car and tells us the since we cut in line we would have to return to the end of the line. He was very
polite and we told him our story about following the signs, but he said, “…his superior says we must go to the end of the line.” In fairness, I
offered to wait here for 10 – 15 cars to go by, but that was not acceptable and we did pull out of line and go to the end of the line. So the hour –
fifteen minute wait turned out to be two hours for us. So yes, we were “guilty” of cutting in line, although unintentionally. I’ve certainly seen
much more blatant line cutting at both SY and Otay every time we cross there. I think it was very petty for this young girl to actually call 066 and
have us pulled out of line. BTW, while we were waiting in line (for the second time) we witnessed two other vehicles make the same mistake we did
(follow the signs) and get in line ahead of a few other cars, but no one felt compelled to call the police and “have justice served.” OK, now I know,
and overall, it was more relaxing crossing at Tecate than the other alternatives. Now you know who the guilty party is and the full story, thanks
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I can assure you if it is a Mexican national doing the cutting in line it gets ignored. I am a sentri memeber and I cross at San Ysidro and cutting in
line is out of control at this crossing and most of the time the police do nothing, unless a mexican complains, then oh look out, if an american
traveler makes a complaint about a mexican vehicle cutting nothing and i mean nothing is done. I have seen this with my own eyes. Thank god for Sentri
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Depreator
| Quote: | Originally posted by ncampion
OK, I’ll fess up, however you also get to hear the full story. As we live more or less full time in Loreto, we travel back and forth to the US about
6 – 8 times a year. I don’t so much mind the drive, I actually like the solitude and beauty of the Baja peninsula, but I absolutely dread the lengthy
(and getting worse) wait to cross the border. Our actual time at the booth is about 30 seconds after waiting two hours or more! So on this trip
North we decided to heed the advice of several Nomads and drive the little extra distance and cross at Tecate instead of our usual SY or Otay
crossing. Since we have never done this before, we were navigating through Tecate carefully watching for the “Border Crossing” signs. Actually the
signage was pretty good and we had no trouble finding our way. We finally came to the line leading up the hill to the border and saw a “Border
Crossing” sign indicating that we should turn left, which we did and merged in front of a white car with CA plates. I guess it is true that we “cut
in line” as there were 4 or 5 cars in line around the corner from where we made the left turn. The young girl driving the white car stood on her horn
for about five minutes as if this was a life or death situation. About 40 minutes later, at the top of the hill, a Mexican cop approaches, talks to
the white car a minute then comes up to our car and tells us the since we cut in line we would have to return to the end of the line. He was very
polite and we told him our story about following the signs, but he said, “…his superior says we must go to the end of the line.” In fairness, I
offered to wait here for 10 – 15 cars to go by, but that was not acceptable and we did pull out of line and go to the end of the line. So the hour –
fifteen minute wait turned out to be two hours for us. So yes, we were “guilty” of cutting in line, although unintentionally. I’ve certainly seen
much more blatant line cutting at both SY and Otay every time we cross there. I think it was very petty for this young girl to actually call 066 and
have us pulled out of line. BTW, while we were waiting in line (for the second time) we witnessed two other vehicles make the same mistake we did
(follow the signs) and get in line ahead of a few other cars, but no one felt compelled to call the police and “have justice served.” OK, now I know,
and overall, it was more relaxing crossing at Tecate than the other alternatives. Now you know who the guilty party is and the full story, thanks
Diane for giving it the press it deserved. |
I can assure you if it is a Mexican national doing the cutting in line it gets ignored. I am a sentri memeber and I cross at San Ysidro and cutting in
line is out of control at this crossing and most of the time the police do nothing, unless a mexican complains, then oh look out, if an american
traveler makes a complaint about a mexican vehicle cutting nothing and i mean nothing is done. I have seen this with my own eyes. Thank god for Sentri
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Next time flip the cop a twenty?
MAGA
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Depreator
I can assure you if it is a Mexican national doing the cutting in line it gets ignored. I am a sentri memeber and I cross at San
Ysidro and cutting in line is out of control at this crossing and most of the time the police do nothing, unless a mexican complains, then oh look
out, if an american traveler makes a complaint about a mexican vehicle cutting nothing and i mean nothing is done. I have seen this with my own eyes.
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And I can assure you that you are wrong.
Protocol at San Ysidro and Tecate are completely opposite.
1. I have and will continue to cut in/out at SY where it is accepted and commonplace. For instance, I always use the SENTRI lane when riding my
motorcycle.
2. Regardless of nationality it is not tolerated at Tecate and I have consistently witnessed the police discipline drivers from either
country.
[Edited on 7-9-2011 by Dave]
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Agree with Dave. SY is a bowel movement of ugly humanity and nothing will surprise me.
On the other hand, Tecate is self-regulating and people turn on the offenders.
It's a world apart.
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Depreator
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Dave
| Quote: | Originally posted by Depreator
I can assure you if it is a Mexican national doing the cutting in line it gets ignored. I am a sentri memeber and I cross at San
Ysidro and cutting in line is out of control at this crossing and most of the time the police do nothing, unless a mexican complains, then oh look
out, if an american traveler makes a complaint about a mexican vehicle cutting nothing and i mean nothing is done. I have seen this with my own eyes.
Thank god for Sentri |
And I can assure you that you are wrong.
Protocol at San Ysidro and Tecate are completely opposite.
1. I have and will continue to cut in/out at SY where it is accepted and commonplace. For instance, I always use the SENTRI lane when riding my
motorcycle.
2. Regardless of nationality it is not tolerated at Tecate and I have consistently witnessed the police discipline drivers from either
country.
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Sorry Dave, I was not talking about Tecate, Sorry if you took it that way. My examples were the San Ysidro crossing. Motorcycles on the east side of
the port are not and never are a problem. I am refering to all the vehicle traffic that comes from Centro or down town. Right before you get to the
bridges and overpasses people attempt to cut in from all the side streets that conect to Juarez instead of going to the rear and waiting like all
other respectful people. That was the point I was attempting to make. But I'm in the Sentri program and with the way the ports of entry are getting I
would pay much more then what we currently pay.
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re John M,
Having known this man for many years, nothing he does surprises me anymore. His only redeeming feature is his long suffering wife (who is one of my
WiW's.
Avoid him at all costs.
My motto:
Never let a Dragon pass by without pulling its tail!
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