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[*] posted on 10-21-2011 at 05:12 PM


Geeze David. Your knowledge of politics is about as in depth as your knowledge of "luxury" hotels. Quit giving conservatives a bad name.


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:lol: republicans destroyed their economy and killed the good image the US had abroad and now they call Obama incompetent?:lol::lol::lol:


My business was thriving as were most everyone else's until after the democrats took control of congress in Jan., 2007. Congress controls the budget, but Bush was still president for 2 more years... as planned, with media help, Bush got the blame. Barney Frank and his crew blackmailed banks into lending money to people who couldn't pay back the loans... there is a lot more to this, but what's the use, as facts aren't as dramatic as name calling and blaming Bush. I wish Obama would get a backbone and accept that his socialist/ communist theories on governemnt control and dividing the people against each other are failed ideas and harmful to everyone (except the few party members at the top... and the union bosses that deliver votes).

At least Clinton had enough brains to see what the people wanted, changed his path, dropped socialized medicine (Hillarycare), accepted welfair reform and other Republican ideas created by Newt and the new congress of 1994.. and even made them his own for credit, and it got him re-elected.
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[*] posted on 10-21-2011 at 05:18 PM


This is a very Interesting Thread with some very Interesting Information.


Let us Stop Blaming Bush and the Republicans for everything that has happened in the Past and get down to some real time changes that will help this Country get back on "A Respectful Road".

It will be many years before the Immigration problem will be solved. My idea is close the Border and start Deporting all Criminal s of Mexican Descent that do not have Legal Papers

RACISIM

I still have not had anyone give me a definition of Racisim.

Racist I assume is one person who does not Like another person because he./She is of a different Skin Color.

Nowdays the Liberal Bellys of the left have adopted the Word and use it regulary aganist anyone that {In their Minds } maybe being a Racist.

I think maybe it is more for the "Name Caller" than the one being singled out.

The Whites in the United States of America will never be Black!

The Blacks in the United States of America will never be White.

The Chinese of the United States of America will always have Slant Eyes

I grew up in this country and was raised up to Respect sll people and not to make Judgements on their Words but look to their Actions !!

Rick Perry is going to be the nest president of this Country and you had better beleive it! One of the basic reasons is his Character. How stupid it is to think that a name on a Rock would change a persons Vote !If so Stupid Person.

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[*] posted on 10-21-2011 at 05:25 PM


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Barney Frank and his crew blackmailed banks into lending money to people who couldn't pay back the loans...


blackmailed?!?!?!?!?!?!?!

dk: what info did barney frank threaten to release?
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[*] posted on 10-21-2011 at 05:38 PM


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Rick Perry is going to be the nest president of this Country and you had better beleive it!


Everyone around the world that wants the US to tank is betting he or another republican wins. I on the other hand would like to see the US back on its feet, and thus the last thing you need is another republican dumb ass in the white house.




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[*] posted on 10-21-2011 at 06:10 PM


Actually it was Phil Gramm's(R) " Leach-Bliley" act that is most to blame for the subprime mortgage crisis. It lead to repealing major portions of the Glass-Steagall Act. Although Clinton signed the bill. There was no problems when Clinton was in office. The whole housing meltdown happened during Bush's watch. The puck always stops with the President.

It also didn't help with Gramm's support of the " Commodity Futures Modernization Act of 2000, which lead to all the derivative transactions and things like credit default swaps and other highly leveraged derivatives.

However, if you ask a typical GOP, aka Tea Party member. They will blame Barney Frank, the gay guy. The GOP members especially like to blame the Blacks and other minorities. They also blame Jimmy Carter's " Community Reinvestment Act (CRA) he signed in office. Of course the CRA loans were only a small percentage of the total amount of loans that failed. But hey, " lets blame the Blacks and Mexicans anyway," seems to be he message from the GOP.

GOP hostility towards minorities has actually got worst since Obama got in the office. It's no wonder Blacks vote democrat 90 percent strong even when there is a white democrat running. It's no wonder why Latinos vote almost 70 strong for democrats. The democrats also have most of the Jewish and Asian vote. I'm sure the Democrats have the Muslim vote too, but I don't actually have the numbers. If it's anything less than 80 percent I would be surprise.

Islamophobia is off the charts in the USA espeically in the GOP circle. Sharia Law? Really? Is there a need for Sharia Law in the USA? Well apparently many racist southern red states that always vote Republican think so.
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[*] posted on 10-21-2011 at 06:18 PM


This next election is gonna be a big suprise to a bunch of dems.;D The mid term elections should have been a wake-up call. Can't wait!;D
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[*] posted on 10-21-2011 at 08:38 PM
Dey B Havin All Dem Der Votes ?


With SO many Votes going for the Donkey party and a record turnout, B.O. could only beat Crazy Old Johnny Mac by Three percent.

A repeat of that Hawaiian Punch is unlikely given the probable economic numbers.
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[*] posted on 10-21-2011 at 08:59 PM


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Ken Cooke, Go ahead and vote for Obama again. Perry called Cain "brother". Oh yea! With all the real questions to be asked; to name a few, "Fast and Furious", the loans to defunct energy companies, auto company bailouts etc. Perry called Cain "brother". Hang your hat on that! And vote for Obama. Good God in heaven! Ignore how incompetent the whole crew is and put 'em back in for another disasterous term. But I see! Perry called Cain "brother".


What is wrong with loaning Chrysler and GM money? They paid the money back, didn't they? :light:

The 'incompetent' phrase is what the Republicans use against Obama, but they don't have any clear ideas of their own at the moment. So, they make stuff up.




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[*] posted on 10-21-2011 at 09:02 PM


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GOP hostility towards minorities has actually got worst since Obama got in the office. It's no wonder Blacks vote democrat 90 percent strong even when there is a white democrat running. It's no wonder why Latinos vote almost 70 strong for democrats.


@Joe - Why do Cuban-Americans vote primarily Rupublican? I know that many of the Cubans here were not all wealthy. As for African-American voters, I get irritated by Republican logic to the point of turning off to their simplistic opinions and their world-view. To each his own.




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[*] posted on 10-21-2011 at 09:10 PM


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GOP hostility towards minorities has actually got worst since Obama got in the office. It's no wonder Blacks vote democrat 90 percent strong even when there is a white democrat running. It's no wonder why Latinos vote almost 70 strong for democrats.


@Joe - Why do Cuban-Americans vote primarily Rupublican? I know that many of the Cubans here were not all wealthy. As for African-American voters, I get irritated by Republican logic to the point of turning off to their simplistic opinions and their world-view. To each his own.


Simplicity is the essence of life, Ken. The most progress is normally made when it is simple, and therefore understandable. When complications are introduced it is then that things come to a standstill.

Embrace simplicity-----------it is so invigorating!!! :biggrin:

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[*] posted on 10-21-2011 at 09:12 PM


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GOP hostility towards minorities has actually got worst since Obama got in the office. It's no wonder Blacks vote democrat 90 percent strong even when there is a white democrat running. It's no wonder why Latinos vote almost 70 strong for democrats.


@Joe - Why do Cuban-Americans vote primarily Rupublican? I know that many of the Cubans here were not all wealthy. As for African-American voters, I get irritated by Republican logic to the point of turning off to their simplistic opinions and their world-view. To each his own.


Simplicity is the essence of life, Ken. The most progress is normally made when it is simple, and therefore understandable. When complications are introduced it is then that things come to a standstill.

Embrace simplicity-----------it is so invigorating!!! :biggrin:

Barry


I have friends that are Nicaraguan-Americans, and while I understand their disdain for Daniel Ortega, I don't "get it" regarding the whole conservative line of thinking. Sorry, just me.




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[*] posted on 10-21-2011 at 09:16 PM


:lol::lol::lol: You, Ken, and about 50% of the population-------I guess that is what makes the world go around.

Love the pics of your vehicle on that "other" thread. Beautiful, and I am envious.

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[*] posted on 10-21-2011 at 09:24 PM


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:lol::lol::lol: You, Ken, and about 50% of the population-------I guess that is what makes the world go around.

Love the pics of your vehicle on that "other" thread. Beautiful, and I am envious.

Barry



No disrespect, Barry. I respect all 'respectful' points of view.




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[*] posted on 10-21-2011 at 09:47 PM
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Just watched Puerto Rican singer Luis Fonsi give his opinion of the Immigration debate. Trust me, he was not pro-Joe Arpayo.:lol:

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[*] posted on 10-21-2011 at 11:21 PM


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Rick Perry is going to be the nest president of this Country and you had better beleive it!


Everyone around the world that wants the US to tank is betting he or another republican wins. I on the other hand would like to see the US back on its feet, and thus the last thing you need is another republican dumb burro in the white house.


So Obama is a finacial and political genius, huh? Oh lord, help us!!!


He didn't create the mess, thats for sure.




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[*] posted on 10-21-2011 at 11:22 PM


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Just watched Puerto Rican singer Luis Fonsi give his opinion of the Immigration debate. Trust me, he was not pro-Joe Arpayo.:lol:

Luis Fonsi


Actually, any Latin musician will speak out publicly in support of illegals because they realize that as the majority minority, Mexicans, legal and illegal, buy their music. Univision and Telemundo are forever praising illegals on the air but ask them how many Mexicans are in upper management at their stations in Miami and L.A.......zilch.
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[*] posted on 10-22-2011 at 01:43 AM


Very easy to solve this immigration issue----Whatever the immigration laws are towards Americans of another Country, then the same immigration laws apply to their citizens trying to get into the United States. Easy, Fair and Stops all of the name calling, as if it is not good enough for our United States citizens it won't be good for others from other Countries too!!
See simple and sweet takes, as it takes all the name calling and finger pointing out. The same goes for investments, buying of land, etc. Make a level field for United States citizens before doing anything else for any other Country!! Ok, problem solved and maybe just maybe we can all just open a cold one and enjoy it together,LOL. Take Care & Travel Safe--- "No Hurry, No Worry, Just FUN" bajafun777




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[*] posted on 10-22-2011 at 04:21 AM


Neither side wants to really tackle the Illegal Immigration issue/Border

I will say this It will be the saddest day of my life if Obama gets elected again

Open yours eyes people he is the WORST President in History

If you have to ask why you are in denial




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[*] posted on 10-22-2011 at 04:35 AM


To get back on topic and answer Ken's question, yes in my opinion, GOP rhetoric will cost them Mexican Latino votes.
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[*] posted on 10-22-2011 at 04:55 AM


Mexican Latinos will vote for their best interests. Their best interests are the same as the majority of US citizens. The 2012 election will be a landslide victory for the GOP.:D
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