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slimshady
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From the looks of his website
latrinidadrvranchrestaurant.com
Seems like Mike Odell has a nice operation running a trailer park campground from Los Barriles. So I hope he pays his employees more than minimum
wage and helps them put food on their dinner tables.
I have seen the signs for that trailer park but have never been there or known anyone who has. I am sure I won't going there either.
By the way Mikey you can get a pocketfinder gps for $150 dollars.
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dtbushpilot
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Well, if you won't going, I won't going either.....that ought to teach that troll a lesson...
"Life is tough".....It's even tougher if you're stupid.....
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eddie
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pangas stolen
Mike's place is in La Riberia, I was their for music last week. Not in LB.
I haven't heard any of the mexican navy fly by at all [day or at night time]. I've been in Buena Vista for A month and half.
Yes the F''';gin shrimpers were out in front of our house for 3 days last week.
Eddie
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slimshady
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Yeah your right it's in la ribera along that bay called bay of palms! Still have now reason to go there.
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BajaRat
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Who stands to profit, follow the money it never fails. Sorry to hear all this bad news but the f n bad guys are right under ur nose. Don't name the
players or you'll have to put your foil hat back on.
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slimshady
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There are probably a few look outs working for the engine theives living along the bay watching where the boats are and who has each emgine. Once time
passes and people become complacent and think the crime has passed, wham! they strike again.
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It amazes me how many "experts" there are on this site. The pangas were stolen from the area south of the lighthouse, Punta Arena. IMO, this is not
Bahia de Palmas. On the other hand, La Ribera could be considered on the south side of Bahia de Palmas. But according to the Baja Catch by Neil
Kelly and Gene Kira, the area immediately north of the lighthouse and going to Los Frailes is called The Pulmo Shoals. But really, who gives a s--t?
Mike O'Dell was/is a building contactor that has built numerous beautiful homes in Rancho Leonero and La Ribera and probably other places I am not
familiar with. His trailer park/restaurant is quite nice and he puts out dinners and now lunch that are well attended by many in the area.
So, try knowing what you talk about especially before you start dissing others. And by the way, this thread is about panga theft and this is not the
first time nor probably the last time it will happen.
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shari
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when the mexican government forced us all to have computer chips installed in our pangas...I understood this was to avoid this type of theft and to
monitor the movements of all pangas.
Gnukid..can you please ask your amigo the port captain about how these chips work and why the stolen pangas cant be identified with these chips?
thank you sir.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Floatflyer
So, try knowing what you talk about especially before you start dissing others. |
I fully agree Floatflyer! Remember that next time before you start sending nasty U2U's to people without having your facts straight....
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| Quote: | Originally posted by tripledigitken
| Quote: | Originally posted by gnukid
The navy has a fleet small planes that fly over the SOC regularly at night |
Are you sure of this? Where are they taking off and landing at night? The only planes I know off that fly at night over the SOC are the 210's that
get ripped off at the Serenidad!!! |
I don't profess to be an expert of the mexican military. I did have a room-mate who was a mexican navy pilot, sometimes I would drop him off early to
work. The mexican navy that departs from an airport near La Paz Intl airport. The planes are small aerobatic type planes used for surveillance and
fun, I am not sure what else. The planes can be observed daily.
The guys would get up very early and be back before 10am most often or so and say something like there is no war so we came home for breakfast.
There are various aircraft as well the base in La Paz near Marina La Paz and many other forms of operations, they have seals, commandos, divers of all
sorts as well as the type that drop in and do a task and leave. Every sort, and massive communications networks up and down Baja.
There are parades, pictures, where you can see them in action and every day you can see them moving and doing exercises with highly sophisticated
equipment and resources. Though there may be some sort of laws that restrict them from interacting with civil affairs?
Baja Sur is very narrow, and there is no crowd to hide out among, there are only a few travel corridors. But it's true the sea can be a good place to
hide out.
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slimshady
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Pocketfinder.com has a small gps unit for about 190 dollars and $12 a month for a tracker that is high temperture resistant and can be hidden in the
motor. It can be hot wired or can be stored with a rechargeable battery. GPS tracking can be made by logging on to an IPhone or computer. A small
price to pay. They may steal engines many times but all we need is one time to bring the operation to a halt.
As far as my opinion on that Mikey guy that thinks he knows baja more than me or Cabo Ron from Las Vegas based on a bajanomads boards thats speaks
about his view of other people.
Just because one lives in baja doesn't really means they "know" baja.
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The ideal situation here would be that the fishermen/captains in the area that make an average of 3500 pesos a month would be able to buy a pocket gps
costing 2500 pesos and then spend another 150 pesos a month monitoring it on the iphone or computer that I'm sure they all have.
Right...........
The economy problems have taken a big toll on these people, so this additional burden has them crushed.
The theft of pangas has been a problem here for a couple of years, not just La Ribera but also in BuenaVista and Los Barriles.
To offer a plausible solution I believe you should "know" the area, and what is realistic and what is not. I don't happen to have a solution to the
problem, so will not offer one.
BTW, Mike, for as long as I have known you, I'm surprised to learn that your place is no longer in La Ribera, that you are in Los Barriles? When did
you move? Must have been right after the last time I had dinner there. I guess unlike some others, I am not "in the know".
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slimshady
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They may not have access to iphones or computers, however i am sure most of the fisherman know people who have access to some form of computer. It's
not just mexican's getting their engines ripped off. I am sure everyone would pitch and grant access to a victim as soon as their $50,000 investment
is no longer at it's mooring.
Saying their is no solution is giving up. This is what this forum is about and finding solutions that help people.
The solution is there. It may need help financially and logistically from A group like the Rotaries or a resort like the Palmas de Cortes who lost
pangas last year.
Such thinking goes in line with people around the bay with million dollars homes who refuse to put alarms on their house because they don't want to
spend the money or are clueless as to the criminals preying on the well to do. That's another subject.
I have Liveview gps on both my truck and boat so I am covered. A small price to pay for piece of mind.
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choyero
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| Quote: | Originally posted by slimshady
their $50,000 investment |
you can't be serious, if you believe a commercial fisherman's panga cost $50k...you are definately not in the "know"
I dont have anger management issues, I have idiot management issues.
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slimshady
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Yamaha engines are between 18000 and 25000, add on a 26 foot hull at 15000 plus, if you were in the know, you would know that it's the new 4 strokes
they want and they are not cheap. The crooks are not taking older two strokes.
I am sure you can find a beat up panga for $5000.
Since its's the 4 strokes they want and discard the hulls, it is safe to say that you don't know.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by slimshady
Yamaha engines are between 18000 and 25000, add on a 26 foot hull at 15000 plus, if you were in the know, you would know that it's the new 4 strokes
they want and they are not cheap. The crooks are not taking older two strokes.
I am sure you can find a beat up panga for $5000.
Since its's the 4 strokes they want and discard the hulls, it is safe to say that you don't know. |
Doesn't the government give these pangas to the fishermen? I know a lot of the pangeros in San Quintin, including my friends, were given their pangas
by the government......engines included.
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slimshady
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In Los Barriles I know of a few pangueros that own their own boat, work for an americano, or at least own half the boats they operate. They contract
out of the hotels or run private.
I haven't really met any pangueros with government funded boats.
Here is a request from someone on los barriles who got his boat ripped offMy boat was stolen Sunday night 8/7/2011 from in front of Punta Colorada. It
was a 23' parker center console with a 200HP Yamaha Outboard. It was white in color. No name is on the boat but on the side of the boat it said
Parker. There was a another boat stolen with it. It was a 22' ProLine Center Console with a mercury outboard on it. It had a name of El Gallo. It also
is white in color. There is a $1,000 reward for the return of the Parker boat. If there is any info please contact " Chuy" at Palmas de Cortes in
august. It was posted to the Baja Pony Express.
Here it is
"My boat was stolen Sunday night 8/7/2011 from in front of Punta Colorada. It was a 23' parker center console with a 200HP Yamaha Outboard. It was
white in color. No name is on the boat but on the side of the boat it said Parker. There was a another boat stolen with it. It was a 22' ProLine
Center Console with a mercury outboard on it. It had a name of El Gallo. It also is white in color. There is a $1,000 reward for the return of the
Parker boat. If there is any info please contact " Chuy" at Palmas de Cortes.
-Kurt
Choyero and Mikey, Mexican fisherman, Cheap boats? gov't? No not really. Get better info next time.
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choyero
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| Quote: | Originally posted by slimshady
Yamaha engines are between 18000 and 25000, add on a 26 foot hull at 15000 plus, if you were in the know, you would know that it's the new 4 strokes
they want and they are not cheap. The crooks are not taking older two strokes.
I am sure you can find a beat up panga for $5000.
Since its's the 4 strokes they want and discard the hulls, it is safe to say that you don't know. |
Your right, I forgot that the commercial guys run panga's that are equipped with 225hp yamaha 4 strokes.
they actually run 50-70hp outboards that cost $6k in the states, they are considerabley cheaper bought through the fishing coop. I believe thyey run
about $50k pesos through the coop.
[Edited on 12-9-2011 by choyero]
I dont have anger management issues, I have idiot management issues.
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slimshady
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Yea, bait fisherman run those in their aged aluminum boats. Sounds like you pangueros where your at need to upgrade in hp to super 26 pangas. They are
typically running 150 hp yamahas 4 strokes.
If you can score me a new 26 foot super panga with at least 150-200 hp for that with the extras, hook me up.
And if you know anything about boats then you would know its $100 per hp and that what you pay for a new boat is not what you will get if you sell it.
We can discuss the price of a panga all day, just havent met anyone with a panga with that size outboard on a 23 or 26 footers.
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slimshady
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Regardless this isnt about trolling the message boards and critically hanging word for word what someone is thinking and what exactly he means like if
the piece of crap panga with the 1982 yamaha two stroke is worth so much compared to what a 2011 4 stroke is worth on a new super 26 panga.
It's about people getting their stuff ripped off and trying to prevent it with viable solutions short of hiring a guard to sit in your boat while it's
moored.
It's about catching the bad guys!
Make it hard to be another victim.
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