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mtgoat666
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Quote: Originally posted by caj13  | Hey everybody, This story caught my attention for a couple of reasons, 1. I am a trout fisherman that reallty favors the Commando small stream
stalking the fish technkiques.
But in my real life, turns out I am a research biologist/ ecologist evolutionary biologist. So an isolated population, who knows how long ago, and
then new populations established in other sites, that makes my brain light up.
My idea is to take fin clips from the various streams, and build genetic profiles of each population (fin clips do not hurt the fish)
I am currently gathering together all of the literature I can find - this thread has helped alot. But what I really need is local knowledge. Anyone
been to any of these sites, access? hike in, motorcyclce, 4wd? distances travel times etc
what if any infrastructure to support the project (ie do we need to be self contained)
anyone who wants to volunteer to help out - that could be arranged
so please, if you have local knowledge, I would really like to talk with you via email, phone, or whatever |
for local knowledge, contact the locals.
Meling ranch can take care of most everything for you. Lodging. Food. Access. If they don't own the land you want access to, then they will know
who does and how to get access. One of the people at the ranch will also know what streams have flow, fish, etc.
http://ranchomeling.com/
FYI, the ranch people dont seem to respond to email, so try facebook or best way is to call.
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advrider
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Cool article by ESPN, this is on my list of places to fish. Does anyone know what they charge for guide service? I assume you can't really go solo
because its private property?
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Jack Swords
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Great suggestion on using Meling Ranch for logistics and transportation.
Our hike to the SPM Mission was supported by Meling ranch for lodging, food, and horses/mules for guide, equipment and water. We simply hiked in with
minimal backpacks, but the guide on horseback with mule carried our water and heavy stuff. Slept next to a nice stream carrying lots of water. Not
exactly a high Sierra stream, but very nice. The Ranch has some posted info on the trout and could probably help out. Retired biology teacher here
and would like to see the research carried out.
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PaulW
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an 8 year old story
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John Harper
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Actually, it's a 130 year old story, at a minimum. Sadly, it appears you're not a trout enthusiast. Trout live in beautiful places, that's one thing
about them.
John
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The beauty of Nomad over Facebook is the loads of data that a simple search away, here! These posts will never be too old to be enjoyed.
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A mystery that has haunted me for years.
I was snorkeling by the first waterfall up from Santiago past
El Chorro. Nice 20-foot-deep pool with a few giant
freshwater shrimp and a school of 8 trout,
from 8" to about 16".
The trout had a mackerel pattern on their back,
dark on light green. No spots or speckles, but
a distinctive trout shape.
Their sides and bellies were pale.
I saw a few people hiking up in the next year carrying spinning gear. The trout and shrimp disappeared and haven't
come back for 18 years.
I have never seen a mackerel-pattern trout
anywhere else.
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Great story. Cool impact.
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Love this story, David. Almost 10 years have gone by and it is obviously timeless. I was lucky enough to spend Easter week in the SPM mountains on a
trip lead by my old friend, Bud Bernard. We hiked thru all of that area in 1953 with our flyrods in our packs. Phil Meling was also with us showing
us the good spots to fish in. We caught dinner most days supplemented by venison shot by the Meling ranch hands. One night a mountain lion grabbed
the venison that was hanging and tried to make off with it, but we scared him off. Thanks for the history lesson and the links to more adventure
stories.
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Happy Thanksgiving to you, Vince! Great story!
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| Quote: Originally posted by Jack Swords | Great suggestion on using Meling Ranch for logistics and transportation.
Our hike to the SPM Mission was supported by Meling ranch for lodging, food, and horses/mules for guide, equipment and water. We simply hiked in with
minimal backpacks, but the guide on horseback with mule carried our water and heavy stuff. Slept next to a nice stream carrying lots of water. Not
exactly a high Sierra stream, but very nice. The Ranch has some posted info on the trout and could probably help out. Retired biology teacher here
and would like to see the research carried out. |
Hey Jack,
How did you get a response from Melling Ranch, I tried facebook and email asking them about fishing & trips, and never got any response.
I eventually just went to Mikes skyranch, and went upstream from there, caught a bunch of the trout up stream from mikes, went up 2 or 3 miles.
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