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thebajarunner
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We aired this out when he first left
| Quote: | Originally posted by 55steve
I don't get it (I actually do, unfortunately) - someone wants to leave, tells the whole forum and even goes as far as requesting his account be
deactivated....and then comes back?
If you're going to leave then just do it - say nothing and be gone - some people really need to learn how to man up!
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Drama queens need a platform.
Pity parties held in private are never fun.
So, some just need to go onstage, shed a few tears and then wait for the audience to call them back,
Many on this board fall for that little game, sad to say.
I have left twice, both times for about a year.
I left in silence, returned the same way.
Several noticed and welcomed me back- while I did not wish for such a greeting, it was nice to be noticed.
But when you stand on a platform, mid-stage and announce your departure,
well, in my view you just need to stick with it.
Or, you need to come back with an attitude of asking for reentry and then let it go at that.
A lesson that drama queens will never heed, alas...
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Skeet, your questions deserve an answer.
"Is does not matter if a person beleives different than you think they should beleive@ Why should what you think and beleive be the Number #1????"
I won't ask you to *believe* anything. What I think and what I judge to be true, "the Number#1", is twenty-first century reality. Go heavy on the
scientific method. There is a place there for the study of your beliefs, but that version of the origin of man was supplanted more than 150 years ago.
The continued foot dragging of of the Abrahamic religions to join the 21st. finds us now at continuous holy war across the globe, and in the USA where
a whopping 15% judge that evolution is real, the Christians fund a worldwide military larger than the next 25 countries PUT TOGETHER. Prince of peace
my arse. I have a problem with people who think that differently than me, damned straight. They're mucking up my planet!
One way to know what I think the Number #1 is all about would be to click here. Sam has full authority to speak for me!
http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/mon-october-4-2010/sam-har...
And, Skeet, God Blessing a known atheist is akin to me departing from a lesbian friend with a cheerful "I'll try to pray away your gay."
Sorry I won't be able to meet you in Tijuana, but here's the next big thing I'll be doing.
http://mkpnw.org/new-warrior-training-adventure/#logistics
In November I'll go to Washington as part of a 14 man team to run the kitchen, and run full support for the 60 staff men, and 40 initiates. I'll leave
home at 5:30 am on a Thursday and get home at 2:00am Monday. In May I lost 10 pounds in that kitchen! It is one of the most gratifying things I do.
At the end,I get to sit down to dinner with the men who just "went through", and I'm here to tell you we're changing the world one man at a time.
Click on those links Skeet, you might learn something.
Undoubtedly, there are people who cannot afford to give the anchor of sanity even the slightest tug. Sam Harris
"The situation is far too dire for pessimism."
Bill Kauth
Carl Sagan said, "We are a way for the cosmos to know itself."
PEACE, LOVE AND FISH TACOS
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thebajarunner So well said!!!!
Strive For The Ideal, But Deal With What\'s Real.
Every day is a new day, better than the day before.(from some song)
Lord, Keep your arm around my shoulder and your hand over my mouth.
“The sincere pursuit of truth requires you to entertain the possibility that everything you believe to be true may in fact be false”
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Skeet/Loreto
the handling of Rattlers is easy as long as you "Handle them Properly", If you are ever near Sweetwater Texas in March go to the Roundup, it is Fun
to watch and learn. |
i hate snakes. they creep me out! i will avoid sweetwater tx! (easy to do, as i generally avoid all of texas )
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I have given this considerable thought Skeet and now can appreciate your perspective and why you don't seem to get the implications of crossbreeding
species and introducing them into ecosystems like happened in Australia with the introduction of the rabbit or the hybridization of Roundup resistant
corn, whose pollen has now been found in the Copper Canyon
I gave a careful read to this when it first came out and now I get the compelling, almost innate drive in you to crossbreed species and to release
them in the wild and why you can't understand the implications of this, it's built into your genes.
http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2010/05/100506-scien...
We of course know that genes exist in potential and yours were nurtured in the milieu of Texas, a place where some of these traits are clearly
prevalent.
http://www.aquilaarts.com/bushmonkey.html
here compared with his doppelganger who you so greatly admire.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YSJv-2qfDNc
Having reflected on the genetic issues I also understand your fixation with snakes http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JhoXi9-zv0I
Great to have you back. Advice, don't freeze any sperm.
Iflyfish
| Quote: | Originally posted by Skeet/Loreto
Fish Never Kick a Rattlesnake!!!!
As I was born and raised in the Rattlesnake Capital of the World I have always had an interest and a connection with them.
While spending several days Fishin on Catalana Isla so many years ago I watched and observed the actions of the Rattleless Rattler as opposed to the
Texas Rattler..
There are differences.
I decided I would try to crosss breed the Rattlers to see if I could get a large Texas size with out Rattles. Results are Good at this point.
My second adventure I brought the Rattless to Texas to see if there would be Crossbreeding and the Production of Small Snakes with Rattles, Results
are looking Good.
On of the reasons I am enjoying this Experiment is to hear the Dumbo Specie Nuts Hollaring that I am ruining the World!!
Most of them only know what they learn from a Liberal College Nut and have never and never will go out and capture a Rattler.
Fish , the handling of Rattlers is easy as long as you "Handle them Properly", If you are ever near Sweetwater Texas in March go to the Roundup, it is
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Got my popcorn. Let's go you nekkid hippies!
\"Without deviation from the norm, progress is not possible.\" -- Frank Zappa
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Sometimes we do things different than others, Indiviuality???
I started on this Board 10 years ago and enjoyed it up to about 2 years ago when the MCfez, JoejustJoe, OXXO, MtGoat and such cme on to the Off Topic
and then into the other Threads with their Garbage.
When McFez came on with a Photo showing him BBQuing and Eatin a Baby Kitten, I lost it!!!About that time I started gettin all kins of Commercial Bulss
Pucky everytime i opened the Nomads Site.
I had tried to help anyone going to Baja Sur with my 38 years Experience going to and living in Loreto {16 years].
I felt that McFez and others were so bad that everyone should know why an Ole Timer like me left the Board. Well I finally settled down and realized
that i was only hurting myself as there are some very "Good" people on this board
So be It!.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Skeet/Loreto
Sometimes we do things different than others, Indiviuality???
I started on this Board 10 years ago and enjoyed it up to about 2 years ago when the MCfez, JoejustJoe, OXXO, MtGoat and such cme on to the Off Topic
and then into the other Threads with their Garbage.
When McFez came on with a Photo showing him BBQuing and Eatin a Baby Kitten, I lost it!!!About that time I started gettin all kins of Commercial Bulss
Pucky everytime i opened the Nomads Site.
I had tried to help anyone going to Baja Sur with my 38 years Experience going to and living in Loreto {16 years].
I felt that McFez and others were so bad that everyone should know why an Ole Timer like me left the Board. Well I finally settled down and realized
that i was only hurting myself as there are some very "Good" people on this board
So be It!. |
I can totally relate Skeet, welcome back.
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thebajarunner
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Spectacular apology, my man
| Quote: | Originally posted by Skeet/Loreto
Sometimes we do things different than others, Indiviuality???
I started on this Board 10 years ago and enjoyed it up to about 2 years ago when the MCfez, JoejustJoe, OXXO, MtGoat and such cme on to the Off Topic
and then into the other Threads with their Garbage.
When McFez came on with a Photo showing him BBQuing and Eatin a Baby Kitten, I lost it!!!About that time I started gettin all kins of Commercial Bulss
Pucky everytime i opened the Nomads Site.
I had tried to help anyone going to Baja Sur with my 38 years Experience going to and living in Loreto {16 years].
I felt that McFez and others were so bad that everyone should know why an Ole Timer like me left the Board. Well I finally settled down and realized
that i was only hurting myself as there are some very "Good" people on this board
So be It!. |
Right up there with Obama explaining how much he has helped the economy....
Oh well, when you expect greatness you often settle for less.
But, on the level of "re=entry" speeches, yours rates about a 2 (on a scale of 100)
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Fish:
Would you please explain in detail and plain English the "Implications" of my breeding one kind of Ratttler to another?????
I will await your answer with Abatied Breath.
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Vag.
Paientence Prudence, Tempurance Fortidude and Justice.
I have never let what others are Preaching control what I think and believe!!
How can that bunch of "True Warriors" even began to be a Warrior when they have to depend on some Dummy to tell them how to act as "Men"?????
They should learn to Fight.
They should learn Self-Discilpine
They should learn Responsibility for their Acts.
They should learn to Think for Themselves
Of Course if they had been taught this by their Parents there would be no need to Teach it to them at a later date by some Rabble Rouser.
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Canadian Experts Call for Nationwide Ban on Spanking.
Canada's top medical journal has called for the repeal of the country's 120-year-old "spanking law," which allows corporal punishment. In a strongly
worded editorial published on September 4, John Fletcher, the editor-in-chief of the Canadian Medical Association Journal (CMAJ), called physical
punishment an "anachronistic excuse for poor parenting." The editorial accompanies a meta-analysis of 20 years of research about the ill effects of
spanking, conducted by Joan Durant PhD of the University of Manitoba, first published in February and reprinted in the current volume of the CMAJ.
Related: Spanking, Hitting Kids in Public Surprisingly Common
An estimated fifty percent of Canadian parents spank their children, and Canada, like the United States, protects parents' right to physically
discipline kids. Section 43 of the Canadian Criminal Code states, "A parent is justified in using force by way of correction…if the force does not
exceed what is reasonable under the circumstances." Worldwide, more than 30 countries prohibit corporal punishment in the home including Austria, New
Zealand, and Sweden.
Related: Daughter "Begged" For Spanking Instead of Mom's Web Photo
Fletcher and Durant argue that current research shows spanking is an ineffective tool and that there is substantial evidence linking it to mental
health issues including depression and substance abuse as well as to increased aggressive behavior. "Surely any bias should be toward protecting
children, who are the most vulnerable," writes Fletcher. "To have a specific code excusing parents is to suggest that assault by a parent is a normal
and accepted part of bringing up children. It is not. While section 43 stands, it is a constant excuse for parents to cling to an ineffective method
of child discipline when better approaches are available."
Spanking is a controversial issue in Canada, and Section 43 has been contested a number of times. Most recently, in 2004, the Supreme Court upheld it
in a 6-3 ruling. A United Nations panel on children's rights has called on the country to repeal the law. In response to the CMAJ, a spokesperson for
Minister of Justice Rob Nicholson told the National Post, "Parents are in the best position to raise their children. We believe it is up to them, not
the government, to decide what is best for their children so long as it is within reason."
Spanking is also a hotly contested topic in the United States. While more than 70 percent of mothers admit to having hit their kids at least once, the
American Academy of Pediatrics (AAP) discourages the practice. A July report by the Journal Pediatrics, which backs up the CMAJ's findings, concluded,
"Harsh physical punishment in the absence of child maltreatment is associated with mood disorders, anxiety disorders, substance abuse/dependence, and
personality disorders in a general population sample."
In his editorial, Fletcher asserts that, "Parents need to be re-educated as to how to discipline their children." Durant, who is also the author of
popular free online parenting guide, 'Positive Discipline,' says she hopes doctors will look at spanking as a medical issue and do more to advise
parents on alternatives. "If we had two or three studies that showed that if you took 500 mg of vitamin C a day you could reduce cancer risk," she
said in a statement emphasizing the preponderance of scientific research on the negative effects of physical punishment, "we would all be taking 500
mg of vitamin C a day."
http://shine.yahoo.com/parenting/canadian-experts-call-natio...
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Hmmm, site says the following----"Our core values align very well with Christ's teachings and can augment a man of faith's ability to navigate the
world with clarity, a deep sense of purpose and joy." Hmm, I guess when you man-up you also need to read up before casting stones at others,LOL.
Skeet, every man picks their own paths in life, which may very well be different from others. Now, since when can someone not retrace their steps in
life trying to make their way better for themselves! Post your opinions as you wish. Just know and accept some of the ones slamming others here only
feel good doing so hidden in their small rooms with their computers. Don't take it to heart, just know it is what it is and go on with your own life.
Life is just too short to be arguing with someone wanting to bait others into more arguing. They are doing this while laughing and knowing they are
off into never never land with their crazy writings.
So, Skeet like others here, share your thoughts on traveling not just Baja but mainland Mexico which many of us routinely travel when crossing our
border heading south. Over the years we all have had access on this site to so many good photos, great travel tips, great resources south of the
border along with many heads up to keep out of harms way. Enjoy life every minute you get a chance and don't sweat the small stuff! As always
welcome back and Doug always leaves a light on for us,LOL. Take Care & Travel Safe-------------- " No Hurry, No Worry, Just FUN"
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Skeet/Loreto
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777' Well Said/
I am doing just fine, Thanks for the good words.
Yesterday the Muleshinners cooked hamburgers for a 3 yaer Class at the medical School a Texas Tech here in amarillo.
Put on my Apor and Black hat and wnet to wor. Guess What wqe were ask to have a least 15 of more Veggie Burgers. We did. and while serving one of the
Doc. came up and ask the server to keep the regular Hamburgers from touching the Veggie Burgers.
It was interesting to note, as I did, that a good 60 % of the students were from the Middle East, several Thais, several Chinese, Several japanese i
Negro Women
no Mexicanos.
Had a great time and all seem to enjoy.
All the money made will go to the Shriners mostly to the two Hospitals in Galveston/Houston.
I am looking forward to the New Hospital in Tjuana, Will sure help there.
Skeet
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Skeet...the ManKind Project has now exposed 50,000 men world-wide to the experiences and associations which have allow the vast majority to make very
meaningful positive changes in their lives. We do not begin by teaching men to fight! The whole idea is to allow men the self-confidence to live
lives in congruence with their values. That these values will include what you saw on the webpage. I meet regularly with 10-15 of the 40 men in my
community of 3500 who are "New Warriors". We have all agreed to be accountable to each other, and to our community. We create a safe place for men to
go as deeply as need be to root out the causes of the shadowy parts of themselves. I define a shadow as something I know about myself which I know I
hide, repress, or deny. Few men who look will not find a shadow they'd like to minimize. It's healthy.
In your life Skeet, can you right now as fast as you can speak their names, name 10 men with whom ANY secret you share is as safe as your own personal
commitment to secrecy? I can.
And, I judge that to live as a man among men it is a good thing to have brothers on whom one can depend. It is a very good feeling to know that I can
be depended upon and that my readiness is regularly checked to make sure my "battery hasn't lost its charge".
To your questions...
"Of Course if they had been taught this by their Parents there would be no need to Teach it to them at a later date..."
Exactly Skeet. But we didn't get taught the right stuff. We got taught that boys don't cry, to suck it up and pretend that any form of physical or
emotional pain had no effect. Most men I know well enough acknowledge it will say that as a boy they mostly felt not quite good enough. In this
culture men have been known for showing their anger, and I am not alone in thinking that all that stuffing of emotion as a kid comes back as bad
behavior. We offer men a way to explore their motivations and test their resolve. For some it may the first real structure they've known that makes
sense in the real world. I stand by the stated values of the Project. The NWTA is an unforgettable experience no matter what a man takes away from
it. The vast majority of men will tell you that they are better neighbors and citizens now. We are anything but a "Rabble" at the hands of some
charismatic "Rouser". In fact, you couldn't have paid much attention before you scorned. We're very democratic!
At any rate, providing a positive model of mature masculinity, stuff out there beyond Beer and Bullsh*t, to men who mostly come to us asking for it,
is what we do. I judge that most of the new guys have known someone who "did the weekend" and they now know that they want some of what he got!
I don't really expect you to " get it".
Undoubtedly, there are people who cannot afford to give the anchor of sanity even the slightest tug. Sam Harris
"The situation is far too dire for pessimism."
Bill Kauth
Carl Sagan said, "We are a way for the cosmos to know itself."
PEACE, LOVE AND FISH TACOS
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Vag"If there is anyone is this Country that needs to go to the closest Masonic Lodge and ask them about Masonry you and your Group pof so-called Men
are the ones to go Ask.
I challenge you to go to a Masonic Lodge!!
Skeet
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Iflyfish
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Skeet/Loreto
Fish:
Would you please explain in detail and plain English the "Implications" of my breeding one kind of Ratttler to another?????
I will await your answer with Abatied Breath. |
I appreciate that you would actually ask this question, though many in the past have directly told you why this is dangerous business. Have you for
instance noticed the havoc that wild pigs are causing in Texas where legal game farms have had "contained" animals get loose? Have you considered why
a rattle less snake might be dangerous in a place where most creatures, including humans are prepared for rattlers to rattle? Have you considered that
all creatures are home to thousands of other creatures? There are more bacteria on your skin than there are cells in your body. What organisms may be
introduced into the environment by bringing in creatures from other areas. Have you been following the outbreaks of West Nile Virus, Hantavirus?
Illnesses like Swine Flu, passed from hogs to humans and Asian Flu, passed from ducks/geese to humans are examples of what can happen when organisms
are passed from one species to another. This could also include one snake species to another snake species.
http://www.standard.net/stories/2012/09/06/west-nile-hantavi...
Here are some sites related to the larger issue of the impact on the environment and native species by the introduction of non native species. I have
tried to keep the focus on Texas. There are excellent examples around the world of devastation caused by non native species impacting the environment.
Introduction of non native species in Texas, issues, implications and findings.
http://www.tpwd.state.tx.us/publications/pwdpubs/media/pwd_b...
http://www.tpwd.state.tx.us/publications/pwdpubs/media/pwd_l...
“Exotic species are significant competitors with white-tailed deer in some area of South Texas and in the Edwards Plateau. Some large species (for
example, nilgai and eland) have diets similar to cattle, but most of the smaller deer species (for example axis, sika and fallow) have diets similar
to white-tails. They prefer forbs and succulent browse tips, but unlike white-tails, they have the physiological capacity to effectively utilize
grasses to obtain nutrients. Exotic deer do very well on Texas rangelands and can increase herd size rapidly. They compete directly with white-tailed
deer, and because of their superior digestive capabilities, they can out-compete native deer in over populated habitats.
Intraspecific competition (competition among the individuals of the same species) is common among herds in many areas of Texas where the carrying
capacity has been exceeded. This competition among deer can become significant in areas where predators have been eliminated, especially if there is
little hunting pressure. Another factor that can contribute to overpopulation is a hunting policy of harvesting only bucks. The usual result is a high
doe to buck sex ratio, low harvest rate compared to fawn survival, overpopulation and declining body condition.”
Top ten invasive species in Texas
http://stateimpact.npr.org/texas/2012/04/13/the-top-ten-inva...
http://www.eco-pros.com/invasive_non-native_species.htm
“Texas hopes to avoid — or at least defer — seeing the problems Florida currently faces with its exploding "feral" population of large, non-native
snakes.
Over the past decade, released or escaped pythons have established breeding populations in southern Florida.
Just in Everglades National Park, more than 400 Burmese (Asiatic) pythons, some 13-15 feet long, have been found and removed.
Florida makes owners of the large, non-native snakes pay a hefty price for the potentially damaging reptiles and has imposed a method of trying to
track and punish owners of escaped or released big snakes.
As in Texas, anyone in Florida convicted of releasing one of the non-native snakes faces a heavy fine.
Sadly, the natural world is paying a much higher price from such irresponsible acts.
redOrbit (http://s.tt/16RZn)
On a national level here is an analysis of the impact of introduced animals. Go to the section entitled:
Mammal http://www.news.cornell.edu/releases/jan99/species_costs.htm...
I have answered in detail and plain English some of the dangers inherent in what you have done by introducing non native species to two different
environments. I have only focused on some of the most obvious issues involved.
The proper response to this research I have done for you is “Thanks”. If you tell me that this is all baloney because these are studies from educated
people who don't know what real life is like then forget I posted anything. I believe your intent on introducing these species was curiosity and you
were not aware of the potential impacts of your doing what you did. I hope this clarifies my and others concerns about what you have done. I hope that
this post also acts as a cautionary note to others who might consider introducing non native species into other ecosystems.
Iflyfish
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Skeet/Loreto
I will await your answer with Abatied Breath. |
Yet another entry into the Big Book of Skeeterisms.
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I've no interest in matching you insult for insult. As a "so-called man" I went to my buddy Google and satisfied myself in moments that your 16th.
century cult which has been called a "...system of morality veiled in allegory and illustrated by symbols." also claims to have built Noah's Ark!
Astounding claim! A stone and mortar ark capable of holding two each of all the dinosaurs.
This is also a secret society.
The combination of veiled, symbolic, and secretive are a far cry from the commitment of my "so-called men" friends who pledge to be clear, concise,
direct and authentic in our communication of our values. No secret handshakes, no imaginary friends in the sky are required. Men of any faith are
welcome, we just seldom find any need to couch any of our values in super-natural terms.
Any man is welcome to know anything about our organization at any level once he is initiated. We have no secrets. The processes of the weekend are
then taught openly to initiated men as part of any on-going study they might choose to do.
Ours is striving to be a 21st. century Project with 21st. century tools. Thanks but no thanks for the invitation to drop back 300 years and explore
stone masonry.
Undoubtedly, there are people who cannot afford to give the anchor of sanity even the slightest tug. Sam Harris
"The situation is far too dire for pessimism."
Bill Kauth
Carl Sagan said, "We are a way for the cosmos to know itself."
PEACE, LOVE AND FISH TACOS
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vgabndo
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Dennis, I looked it up. It means his mouth is surrounded with sharpened sticks pointing outward as a barracade. It is from his French heritage. I
think. Maybe.
Undoubtedly, there are people who cannot afford to give the anchor of sanity even the slightest tug. Sam Harris
"The situation is far too dire for pessimism."
Bill Kauth
Carl Sagan said, "We are a way for the cosmos to know itself."
PEACE, LOVE AND FISH TACOS
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