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monoloco
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| Quote: | Originally posted by DENNIS
| Quote: | Originally posted by Pescador
The really interesting thing is that I have heard the Federales (that is the pandas to those who do not know the difference) constantly shake down
the locals but I have never heard of a tourist ever getting shaken down by them. |
My understanding as well. My worker says they are the worst. |
They are pretty much a rolling toll booth for
truckers.
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DENNIS
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It's the SYSTEM not the cops. |
Exactly. Every cop that rose through the ranks from the chief on down has had to act accordingly with his peers. That's why the occasional cry for
justice we hear here, "Turn the street cop in to his commander [or whoever]," is a ludicrous waste of time. They've all been there.....done
that.......and understand the system full well.
You want to waste some more time.....report it to Sindicatura. They understand the system too.
Foreigners are the only ones that refuse to see it.
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chavycha
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You are correct, I changed the title shortly after the original post. I didn't, and don't, want to imply that there was a concerted effort by police
in CC to target tourists.
And as far as 'smuggle' new rods across the border? I was hoping to have a couple of fly rods which cost $99 USD each brought here, since literally
no one in Baja sells them. Believe me, if there was a way to get them here, or have them shipped, without paying more than twice the USD face value
in shipping that would arrive sometime this month, I would. If you'd bothered to stalk my post on the hunting and fishing forum, you'd know that I'd
already inquired at length about that.
But here's the thing... you're right. Guilty as charged. I'm actually not just a rabble-rouser, but a dirty rotten criminal as well. You see, a
couple weeks ago, I was at a hotel in the States. And there was a wrinkle in the sheet, which I couldn't seem to smooth out. I pulled the sheet
back, and found the culprit. I took that dirty, no-good, piece of crap mattress tag and pulled as hard as I could! It ripped off the mattress. I
stood there triumphantly holding my prize - that ragged, 3" long, slightly cardboardy mattress tag. I placed it on the bedside table, smoothed the
sheets, and slept like a baby. The next morning, I awoke slowly to the sound of chirping birds. I put on my glasses, and my eyes slowly drifted to
the eviscerated mattress tag. I could read a few letters... the dimensions of the mattress, the materials, the manufactu... And then it hit me. I
read, mouth agape, the lettering on the tag. WARNING: THIS TAG MAY ONLY BE REMOVED BY THE CONSUMER - FEDERAL OFFENSE TO TAMPER! Oh my God. It's no
wonder I'm in Mexico. I can't go back to the US, I live in fear of that incident catching up with me sooner or later!
You simply could not have been more correct in your assessment. I'm a little afraid, even, that you might work for the US Mattress Protection Agency,
conveniently working under cover and DBA Bob's Burros. And, gasp, now you have it, all in writing, that I am a US FEDERAL OFFENDER!
Have a good afternoon!
| Quote: | Originally posted by Bob and Susan
actually this morning the title of this thread was different...
it said something like..."Ciudad Constitucion police SHAKEDOWN"
chavycha changed it
it wasn't a shake-down at all...just a traffic violation
and he said he did it...guilty
chavycha is the guy in another thread wants someone to "smuggle" a few new rods across the border...
now it looks like he paid mordita...
paying mordita is not good for any of us
it is what it is |
[Edited on 2-11-2014 by chavycha]
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DENNIS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by monoloco
They are pretty much a rolling toll booth for truckers. |
And others. My worker has his truck registered with ANAPROMEX and the big rear window sticker is an invitation for the feds to get into his wallet.
On the other hand, as mentioned earlier, generally they do tend to leave the foreigner alone in this trolling for lunch money thing.
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monoloco
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| Quote: | Originally posted by chavycha
And as far as 'smuggle' new rods across the border? I was hoping to have a couple of fly rods which cost $99 USD each brought here, since literally
no one in Baja sells them. Believe me, if there was a way to get them here, or have them shipped, without paying more than twice the USD face value
in shipping that would arrive sometime this month, I would. |
Just for future reference, you can order
something on line, have it shipped to ACV, or another expediter, and they will have it here 3 or 4 days after they receive it, for 25% over invoice.
Your two $99 fly rods would have cost $50 to have delivered. Sometimes you can get the company you buy from to give you an invoice for a reduced price
and save yourself some money on the importation.
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chavycha
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Thanks for the tip. The location I was in up until yesterday wasn't served by ACV, unfortunately, and it was a couple hours drive to their nearest
drop point. DHL, UPS, and FedEx all wanted around $150 USD before import fees. At this point in time I will likely just wait another week and have
some friends bring them down.
[Edited on 2-11-2014 by chavycha]
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DavidE
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Mood: 'At home we demand facts and get them. In Mexico one subsists on rumor and never demands anything.' Charles Flandrau,
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| Quote: | Originally posted by DENNIS
| Quote: | Originally posted by DavidE
It's the SYSTEM not the cops. |
Exactly. Every cop that rose through the ranks from the chief on down has had to act accordingly with his peers. That's why the occasional cry for
justice we hear here, "Turn the street cop in to his commander [or whoever]," is a ludicrous waste of time. They've all been there.....done
that.......and understand the system full well.
You want to waste some more time.....report it to Sindicatura. They understand the system too.
Foreigners are the only ones that refuse to see it. |
Lie right back. Tell the commandante the bostid demanded two thousand, three thousand, pesos. Shook his handcuffs, patted his holster, said he's
follow you to the ATM. I did this to a cop who accused me of running a stop sign as I got into my car after breakfast. Trouble is i parked there
overnight with the hotel being next door. As I crept out of the commadancia I could hear screaming for almost a block. Mexicans think gringos are far
too dumb and innocent to use this trick. I forced them to espeak Ingles. Just don't do this unless the charge is positively false. There are other
ways to handle less grievous "disagreements".
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DENNIS
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Lie right back. Tell the commandante the bostid demanded two thousand, three thousand, pesos. Shook his handcuffs, patted his holster, said he's
follow you to the ATM. |
I would rather avoid that method. Throwing down the gauntlet with an armed man would scare me. 
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David K
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Cliffy
If I may jump in_
I'm going down to B of C in a few weeks and have never driven that far in Baja (BOLA before). ...
Don't know what I'll find when I get there but in CC I'll be stopped at every stop sign and probably as slow as anyone else on the road (very slow).
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Ummm... is "B of C" Bay of Concepcion?
If yes, then you don't go anywhere near CC (Ciudad Constitucion)!
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| Quote: | Originally posted by David K
| Quote: | Originally posted by Cliffy
If I may jump in_
I'm going down to B of C in a few weeks and have never driven that far in Baja (BOLA before). ...
Don't know what I'll find when I get there but in CC I'll be stopped at every stop sign and probably as slow as anyone else on the road (very slow).
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Ummm... is "B of C" Bay of Concepcion?
If yes, then you don't go anywhere near CC (Ciudad Constitucion)!
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Unless you feel like driving two more days.
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monoloco
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| Quote: | | Quote: | Originally posted by DENNIS
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Lie right back. Tell the commandante the bostid demanded two thousand, three thousand, pesos. Shook his handcuffs, patted his holster, said he's
follow you to the ATM. |
I would rather avoid that method. Throwing down the gauntlet with an armed man would scare me. |
The next time you drive through, he just might "find" a bag of chuky in
your car.
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DENNIS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by monoloco
The next time you drive through, he just might "find" a bag of chuky in your car. |
Yeah......If he ever saw you again it wouldn't be fun. 
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OOOPS!!! MY fault!!! I thought I'd be going through there. How did I ever find Europe when I was flying jets?????????
I gotta find my old AAA Baja map!!!!!!!!
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David K
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IFR, VFR, or Seat of your pants? 
The highway south of Loreto (after it reaches the top of the mountain to La Paz) is my least favorite drive on Hwy. 1... It is a whole day of driving
through mostly nothing and Ciudad Constitucion!
Concepcion Bay is a great destination!
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| Quote: | Originally posted by David K
The highway south of Loreto (after it reaches the top of the mountain to La Paz) is my least favorite drive on Hwy. 1... It is a whole day of driving
through mostly nothing and Ciudad Constitucion! |
The last twenty miles of this somewhat nondescript section of highway is my favorite.
After 2 1/2 days, crest the last hill, finally see the Bay of La Paz, and...
I'm HOME! 
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Crooked Cops are cowards. Got in the face of several after they tried to screw me (days or weeks later). Polite though. Cannot act snotty at any point
in this scenario from start to finish.
Sorta like "Do you go hunting for rattlesnakes with a shovel while wearing shorts and huaraches?" These cops are at least not completely stupid. As a
tourist you have a TON of resources at your disposal. If you poner un denuncia against a cop for attempted bribery and later on if you should should
be hauled into the ministerio publico on a trumped up charge by the cop or his buddies the ministerio publico is likely to snatch a .45 out of his
desk drawer and drill the cop between the eyes. SECTUR will sick the PGR on this El Flacco Y El Gordo (Laurel & Hardy) " farce so fast it would
make a person's head swim.
Cops KNOW THIS. A consular agent KNOWS THIS. It ain't gonna happen. A tourist getting hosed in the eyes of the feds is like a Duputado or Senador
getting hosed. They look (SECTUR) if they smell a rat, the cop, the commandante and if involved the Minister Publico are going to find their ARSE on
fire -- a real four alarmer. Once, long ago I needed serious help for a drug frame up (being hauled in for questioning). The consular agent called
SECTUR, SECTUR called the PGR, and the next day a squadron of PGR storm troopers showed up at the MP office. The offending SOB's brought me cases of
soda and a gosh darned pastel de tres leches as a (Gee We're Sorry). I was camped at Lagos de Montebello in Chiapas and the Policia Municipal got it
into their heads that a lone camper HAD to be involved with drug smuggling.
If you keep your cool and sting crooked cops with elan, they will avoid you like you have ebola.
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David K
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| Quote: | Originally posted by David K
The highway south of Loreto (after it reaches the top of the mountain to La Paz) is my least favorite drive on Hwy. 1... It is a whole day of driving
through mostly nothing and Ciudad Constitucion! |
The last twenty miles of this somewhat nondescript section of highway is my favorite.
After 2 1/2 days, crest the last hill, finally see the Bay of La Paz, and...
I'm HOME! |
Naturally after 200 miles of Magdalena desert or farms, the view of La Paz is spectacular! Baja Angel was hoping we could find a place to pull over
to take photos!
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Jajajajajajajajajajajajjajajajajaja.............................
The VERY extreme most hated section of Mex 1 for me.....................
The last 3,000 meters, northbound
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David K
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| Quote: | Originally posted by DavidE
Jajajajajajajajajajajajjajajajajaja.............................
The VERY extreme most hated section of Mex 1 for me.....................
The last 3,000 meters, northbound |
The last 3 km., where?
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My sentiments, DavidE
| Quote: | Originally posted by David K
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Jajajajajajajajajajajajjajajajajaja.............................
The VERY extreme most hated section of Mex 1 for me.....................
The last 3,000 meters, northbound |
The last 3 km., where? |
La Frontera/The Border/The last most northerly stretch of magical Mexican turf
before you cross into the hands of the US Border Patrol and out of the land we all love so.
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