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KurtG
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Tioloco
Helmet enforcement, too? That is a new one in Mexico. Jajajajaja |
Not true, I got a ticket in Cabo 15 years ago for not wearing a helmet. Went directly to the police station and paid the $7-8 fine.
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Mulegena
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Russ
Just another scheme to put money in the coffers of this municipality. |
Yes, this is true. It all goes to the
county seat in Sta. Rosalia.
It bothers me that the poor local people are the most impacted by this. For them, its tantamount to a shake-down and very serious financial burden.
When a family struggles daily to put food on the table and feed itself, to further burden with this fine is troublesome to say the least.
"Raise your words, not your voice. It's rain that grows flowers, not thunder." ~Rumi
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akshadow
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helmets
Police stops and tickets for not having helmets on while riding quads are not uncommon in San Felipe. Usually when a lot of visitors and crazy
traffic conditions. There are a lot of people who ride without them and never stopped.
Ron San Felipe Oct, Nov. Feb. Mar. April. remainder in Juneau Ak
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SFandH
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| Quote: | Originally posted by ncampion
As for helmets on quads, I say let those idiots ride without one if that's how much they value their head. |
Emergency room doctors call motorcyclists who ride without a helmet "organ donors". It applies somewhat to quad riders too, at least at high speed.
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As with a lot of things here, this gets easily blown out of proportion and people's paranoia comes to the forefront. First there is not a county
police like the sherif department in the US. This is the Municipal police for the township of Mulege whose main office is in Santa Rosalia. This
practice has been going on for years and we see the same group of people doing this on a regular basis in Santa Rosalia. They also go to the smaller
towns like Mulege, San Bruno, San Lucas, and I have seen them in Santa Agueda as well as San Jose De Magdelena. Who knows why the commandante from
Santa Rosalia gets a wild hair but a group shows up, probably because of someone making a complaint after getting stopped and fined so they have to
go out to the smaller towns and do a check. Because I know a lot of the police, I will sometimes get stopped and checked,and sometimes not, depends
on who is doing the checking.
As Mulegena commented, it is very expensive to properly register, import and keep everything up to date and for years the locals have been very good
about taking the road less travelled, literally, to avoid the high cost of registering. There are two groups that have quasi permission from the
federales to help with that and they are Onapaffa and Anapromex and they offer a sort of license plate for cars that are "in the process" of being
registered. They also issue a special drivers license as well.
But this is more of an issue of the new wave of checking things and while they are checking vehicles, they will also tell the quad riders about the
rules, and issue tickets to offenders.
So it is not some great speed trap or license trap, in fact several of my friends claim they hate having to do that duty cause they get a lot of flack
from the locals. It was also mentioned by several people on Facebook.
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It always amazes me how many people I know will gripe about the police in Mexico, but I don't think that they are nearly as bad as in the states.
Jeez, in California you'll get a $2-300 ticket in the mail for not stopping completely before turning right on a red light, I can only imagine the
cries of shakedown here if someone received a 4000 peso multa for a rolling stop in Baja.
"The future ain't what it used to be"
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dasubergeek
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Well, and the DUI checkpoints in California are also license checkpoints.
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we are on our way back from a monthlong flyfishing trip to montana and today were traveling through southeastern oregon on our way back north to our
summertime home in sequim, washington.....my lovely bride happened to notice a roadside sign that said," fine for littering, $6250 max"....in
oregon....the highways seem so clean down there...i wonder why?.....so i'll pay a "non helmet" fine everyday that i putput from my house in mulege to
buy some milk and eggs with a max speed of MAYBE 5mph down the river road...i really strongly feel that i will not roll my 4 wheeler nor will i
endanger anyone else...but helmets are for fast drivers...not me..please understand!...i beg you!
dyslexia is never having to say you\'re yrros.
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msteve1014
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What happens when a fast driver squashes you flat as he flies along dreaming of winning the Baja 1000?
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Marc
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Are they stopping cars 24/7 and also giving sobriety tests and checking for open containers??
[Edited on 9-13-2014 by Marc]
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| Quote: | Originally posted by wilderone
"Just another scheme to put money in the coffers of this municipality"
Or follow-up to orders to find stolen cars, stolen goods (quads). Why would an owner of a vehicle think they don't have to register it and comply
with the most basic tenets of vehicle ownership? Maybe slow down the stolen car highway into Mexico if the end result is that it will eventually be
confiscated because it can't be legally registered in Mexico. We would all win with lower insurance. Go get 'em. |
Exactly. This is the law and they are enforcing it for everyone. No free gringo passes, no big deal to comply. After talking to the Chief of Police
and the delegato, they suggested Onapaffa and Anapromex plates. Onapaffa takes about an hour, you need the title, a drivers lic. usa or mex, proof of
residence ie utility bill and bring you and the car for photos.
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ncampion
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| Quote: | Originally posted by mulegemichael
i really strongly feel that i will not roll my 4 wheeler nor will i endanger anyone else...but helmets are for fast drivers...not me..please
understand!...i beg you! |
So, no offense meant, but you feel you have the $10 head?
"What happens when a fast driver squashes you flat as he flies along dreaming of winning the Baja 1000?"
This happened to a couple we know in Loreto a week or so ago. T-boned by a car in their Razor, survived, thank God, major injuries, long recovery.
I'm totally against the government telling me I must wear a helmet, but think that it's stupid not to. I don't believe in
legislating stupidity.
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mulegemichael
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i have a MINIMUM $10 head....do i hear $12?...gimme $12...anyone...anyone...geez...can we have fun here too??
dyslexia is never having to say you\'re yrros.
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Mulegena
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Well, MulegeMichael, word is fish fear you and women love ya' -- a certain BeachGirl says -- we'll see if the traffic cops feel the same.
Priceless, babee!
[Edited on 9-13-2014 by Mulegena]
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7.75, throw in a pound of chopped liver.....
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When it comes to ATVs and bikes, fast wrecks kill you anyway; it's the slow ones that a helmet saves your brainpan (or what's left of it). Better to
be 'told what to do' and come away with cognizance than end up a rutabaga because you rolled at 20 mph and busted your cabbage. Pride goeth before
the fall.
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Tioloco
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Better left to personal choice and responsibility reference the helmet.
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bajabuddha
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Tioloco
Better left to personal choice and responsibility reference the helmet. |
Tio, in my youth I agreed wholeheartedly; freedom of choice and all. The seatbelt laws were enacted to save lives; some still refuse to wear them in
spite of fines. Helmet laws not only protect lives, but protect tax payers too. If a crash survivor is in a state of constant care eventually even
the best of insurance will run out, and the "personal responsibility" shifts to the public taxes to take up paying for years of medical care.
Everyone loves the wind in the hair, the bugs in the teeth... and everyone complains of the cost of paying for other's 'freebies'. There are lots and
lots of 'freebies' hooked to tubes and in permanent facilities from 'donor cycles' and ATVs. In EMS we called them 'Job Security'.
I do believe Mexico requires helmets (at least Baja and Baja Sur).
[Edited on 9-13-2014 by bajabuddha]
I don't have a BUCKET LIST, but I do have a F***- IT LIST a mile long!
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Tioloco
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Bajabuddha
I think with that rationale we may as well ban all forms of dangerous transportation. Safer if everyone rode the bus. Then we wouldn't have to worry
if someone was irresponsible enough to eat while driving or using phone while driving or....... Being distracted by talking to their passengers
or.....
Remember, this is a forum about Mexico. Many of us are enamored with the freedom associated with her lack of regulation. Hope not too many of the
American ideas are implemented down here.
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mojo_norte
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Tioloco
Bajabuddha
I think with that rationale we may as well ban all forms of dangerous transportation. Safer if everyone rode the bus. Then we wouldn't have to worry
if someone was irresponsible enough to eat while driving or using phone while driving or....... Being distracted by talking to their passengers
or.....
Remember, this is a forum about Mexico. Many of us are enamored with the freedom associated with her lack of regulation. Hope not too many of the
American ideas are implemented down here. |
I'm with this guy - pro choice on helmets. Safety is relative and a judgement call.
Anyway, good luck enforcing helmet laws in Gringo enclaves with most of the population buzzing around town in shorts and flip flops..
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