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wessongroup
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Thanks to all ... good stuff 
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Skipjack Joe
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Barry
Is Russ's diagram your system as well? I can't follow the description really well. If not then how is it different.
I have seen Russ' system used in the Mediterranean. Did you ever have the problem of the rope sinking and tangling on the rocky bottom. Is this system
only good over sandy/muddy bottoms.
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Russ
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My system with a good anchor line will foul up on the bottom because it will sink unless it's kept very tight. With the cheaper yellow nylon that
floats you may have less fouling but then other boats that cut between your buoy and the shore will get fouled. I slept much better after I gave up
the loop and drug the boat in after fishing. Yep, a real pain to haul it in but you'll sleep better. Or you could buy a cheap inflatable or kayak for
a tender and just anchor out where it safe. Quite a dilemma..... Good Luck!
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Santiago
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Russ, we do the kayak thingy.
One of Doc's rules for enjoying your vacation: "always bring the boat in at night, you will sleep better."
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Bob and Susan
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i agree with that...so we trailer the boat after each use...
its way easier to service too
the wind ALWAYS comes up at 1am when the boat is anchored
we put wheels on the wooden rails of the trailer ...
they just bolt on
best $250 we ever spent
our boat can be out of the water and still launches and loads easily
the wheels are worth more than the trailer : )
they look like this
http://www.etrailer.com/Boat-Trailer-Parts/Dutton-Lainson/DL...
[Edited on 12-14-2014 by Bob and Susan]
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Russ
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http://bajaenterprises.com/BoatWheels.html
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Barry A.
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Quote: Originally posted by Skipjack Joe  | Barry
Is Russ's diagram your system as well? I can't follow the description really well. If not then how is it different.
I have seen Russ' system used in the Mediterranean. Did you ever have the problem of the rope sinking and tangling on the rocky bottom. Is this system
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Igor--------Russ's system is similar, but our boat when night came was tethered both aft and forward, for safety. I am not totally sure of how Russ's
system works, tho. My main fear always was that the boat would come loose and blow away in the night. That never happened in some 30 years. What is
great is that we all seemed to have a "system" that worked for us. We never worried about other boats, or people, because there was seldom anybody
else around back in those days (pre 2007).
Our nylon lines did sink to the bottom, but I don't recall that ever being a problem, and seaweed in the northern SOC was almost non existent, as I
remember. We always camped where rocks were not that prevalent, so no tangling with rocks, either as near as I can remember.
I honestly never remember having ANY problems with our systems, at least at the 4 different places we always camped (BOLA, Gonzaga, Animas, and Punta
Chivato north of the hotel). We did camp out in Conception Bay several times, always at the last bay south where other people & boats were not a
problem.
Barry
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Been pushing my 20' Burquez panga off the East Cape beaches since '84, most of the time by myself. I use the beach balls in the fabric tubes method
mentioned earlier, try to leave it on 3 tubes evenly spaced for the next day. Definitely a technique involved, and it's not getting any lighter the
older I get, but very doable still. Run the boat up the beach like any panguero coming in, then pull it on the tubes empty, no worries.
The panga provides stability, space, live well, and range that my old 14' Westcoaster could not.
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Bob and Susan
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beach balls in fabric? picture?
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monoloco
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Soccer balls work well too. In Alaska, I've seen 2 boat fenders or buoys
tied together with a short piece of line.
"The future ain't what it used to be"
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Bob53
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| Quote: Originally posted by monoloco | | Soccer balls work well too. In Alaska, I've seen 2 boat fenders or buoys
tied together with a short piece of line. |
Ok, it's Monday and I have a mild hangover. Hopefully that's why I'm not understanding this method. Could someone explain this in detail or post a
picture?
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woody with a view
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wrap beach balls or bumpers in netting or fabric and VIOLA!
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willardguy
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early 80's coors light party ball. made a great mooring ball when empty!
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monoloco
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| Quote: Originally posted by Bob53 | | Quote: Originally posted by monoloco | | Soccer balls work well too. In Alaska, I've seen 2 boat fenders or buoys
tied together with a short piece of line. |
Ok, it's Monday and I have a mild hangover. Hopefully that's why I'm not understanding this method. Could someone explain this in detail or post a
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Picture a bag out of canvas or heavy nylon, in the shape of a tube, slightly larger diameter than
the balls you are going to use, long enough to fit 4 balls, closed on one end with a draw string on the other end. Put the balls in the bag, close the
draw string and you have a very effective boat roller. If you use boat fenders or buoys, you don't need the bag, just tie them together loosely by the
built in eyes, with a piece of line, they will remain centered with the keel of the boat when you roll it on them. The draw back is that boat fenders
and buoys are expensive and can get chewed up by the rocks.
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monoloco
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They actually make heavy duty inflatable rollers for ships:
http://www.alibaba.com/product-detail/inflatable-boat-roller...
This will give you an idea of the concept.
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Bob53
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Ok, Thanks!
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wessongroup
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Bob53 ...
"If you need a crappy friend, I'm here for you."
sorry just noticed it ... outstanding
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Bob53
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http://www.duckworksbbs.com/gear/beachroller/index.htm
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monoloco
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Nice, but for the price I'm pretty sure you could
make 3 of the soccer ball ones and have enough left over for a case of Pacifico and a few tacos.
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I've had a lot of restless nights in Baja worrying about my boat on a mooring Once
I woke up and it was gone (fortunately it was stuck on the small point off Punta Chivato) and another night it ended up on the beach (another night of
intense winds at Chivato)! But, after all that, I still love keeping my skiff in the water. I LOVE waking up, pulling the boat to the shore, hopping
in and heading out to go fishing. Plus, when the weather is right, there is nothing like a good old fashioned "evening session"!!!
Looking forward to another trip this year...only 4 more days!!!
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