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Quote: Originally posted by David K  | | Because one network DARES to provide the 'other side' of the slanted stories... and many fear too much information may actually create intelligent
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There's no danger of you becoming one.
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Skipjack Joe
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| Quote: Originally posted by Barry A. |
Tony (etc.) I do listen to NPR daily, and watch the TV news on PBS, as well as FNC, FBN, and occasionally CNN and even MSNBC. I "come to the
conclusions" that I come too because the existing system and Republican ideals has worked so incredibly well for me and mine that I am very skeptical
when I hear left-leaning pundits say or infer that it is broken, or needs changing. Also, I am a strict Fiscal Conservative, a Constitutionalist, and
was raised in a very Conservative Republican Family, and that serves as a filter for EVERYTHING I hear and read.
Barry |
Another words ... You're close minded.
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| Quote: Originally posted by Skipjack Joe | | Quote: Originally posted by Barry A. |
Tony (etc.) I do listen to NPR daily, and watch the TV news on PBS, as well as FNC, FBN, and occasionally CNN and even MSNBC. I "come to the
conclusions" that I come too because the existing system and Republican ideals has worked so incredibly well for me and mine that I am very skeptical
when I hear left-leaning pundits say or infer that it is broken, or needs changing. Also, I am a strict Fiscal Conservative, a Constitutionalist, and
was raised in a very Conservative Republican Family, and that serves as a filter for EVERYTHING I hear and read.
Barry |
Another words ... You're close minded.
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Yep, the system you so appreciate has worked exceedingly well...for a tiny little percentage of our population. The proof that the system needs to be
fixed is that it has cost the American people most of their middle class and thrown more people into poverty than any time since the great depression.
The huge divide between the few 'haves' and the many 'have nots' has left America a lot closer to collapse and civil unrest than a lot of millionaires
are willing to admit.
Undoubtedly, there are people who cannot afford to give the anchor of sanity even the slightest tug. Sam Harris
"The situation is far too dire for pessimism."
Bill Kauth
Carl Sagan said, "We are a way for the cosmos to know itself."
PEACE, LOVE AND FISH TACOS
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Skipjack Joe
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| Quote: Originally posted by Pompano |
I will start off by saying that, in my opinion, all news media is biased one way or another...and any news watcher expecting unbiased news is naive.
Pure unbiased news would be like watching the plain facts coming over a stock market ticker-tape machine and would be boring as hell.
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There are two features about newcasting that introduces falsehood -
1) selective news reporting
2) news reporting as entertainment
Selective news reporting has existed forever and exists in all nations. News reporting as entertainment is more recent and isn't news reporting at
all. Yes, facts are dull but quality news stations present them, rather than interpret them.
But I want to talk about how I became more aware of selective news reporting.
It occurred during the bombing of Serbia by the western countries. At that time CNN provided most of the coverage and I believe Clinton even stated
that if he wanted to know what occurred there he could simply turn on CNN. Virtually all of the coverage consisted of CNN reporters interviewing
Kosovar refugees at the Albanian border. This was probably due to the fact that they weren't allowed to enter the country. This went on day after day,
week after week.
There were other film segments, such as the damage cluster bombs were doing to the civilian population, or the accidental bombing of the chinese
embassy, or the target bombing that hit that train crossing the bridge with civilian passengers. But these were usually short segments that you had to
wait until after midnight to see.
As you probably remember about 55% of Americans support this war and about 92% of Russians were against it.
The eye opener for me was when on the air a CNN reporter from the studio asked the CNN reporter in Moscow how could they possibly not support this
war. Couldn't they see the facts?
The answer - .
The Russian news programs were showing round the clock the bombing of the civilians and gave brief mention of the Kosovars that were leaving the
country. They were providing the total opposite coverage that western media was providing. So that's how public opinion about the war was formed in
the two countries. Selective reporting. Each one claimed to be unbiased and each one reported just the facts. But each one 'promoted' some information
over the other.
That kind of reporting has been going on forever and continues today. The people of China, India, Japan, and Russia each get different information
provided for them.
In my opinion, if you want to get news about a country go to the media of that country.
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Barry A.
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| Quote: Originally posted by Skipjack Joe | | Quote: Originally posted by Barry A. |
Tony (etc.) I do listen to NPR daily, and watch the TV news on PBS, as well as FNC, FBN, and occasionally CNN and even MSNBC. I "come to the
conclusions" that I come too because the existing system and Republican ideals has worked so incredibly well for me and mine that I am very skeptical
when I hear left-leaning pundits say or infer that it is broken, or needs changing. Also, I am a strict Fiscal Conservative, a Constitutionalist, and
was raised in a very Conservative Republican Family, and that serves as a filter for EVERYTHING I hear and read.
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Another words ... You're close minded.
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If I am, Skipjack, then I suspect that most everybody is!!!
Barry
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Skipjack Joe
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There was an old joke in Soviet times about the news they read.
A footrace was run between Khrushchev and Kennedy. Afterwards the headlines from Pravda read:
"Our premier comes in 2nd and the American president arrives next to last."
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and that, in a nutshell, is how every country gets it's news.
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| Quote: Originally posted by Skipjack Joe | There was an old joke in Soviet times about the news they read.
A footrace was run between Khrushchev and Kennedy. Afterwards the headlines from Pravda read:
"Our premier comes in 2nd and the American president arrives next to last."
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and that, in a nutshell, is how every country gets it's news.
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Good one! So true. Spin 
I've recently added this channel to my news sources. Interesting reports.
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCZaT_X_mc0BI-djXOlfhqWQ
VICE News is an international news channel created by and for a connected generation. Our documentaries and original news series bring you an
unvarnished look at some of the most important events of our time.
[Edited on 3-13-2015 by SFandH]
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I have another Russian saying for you, Igor...
"Man exploits man. Under communism, it's just the opposite."
I do what the voices in my tackle box tell me.
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Skipjack Joe
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| Quote: Originally posted by Pompano | I have another Russian saying for you, Igor...
"Man exploits man. Under communism, it's just the opposite."
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Hah. I like it.
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Only because they are owned and bought as a propaganda outlet for the Republican party. I am growing weary of this. The demographic of Fox watchers is
over 65 and white and male. They will dwindle.
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| Quote: Originally posted by David K | | Thank you Roger for posting, it is what we all know to be true, and why FNC is far and away the #1 choice to hear both viewpoints and the hard stories
the other networks bury. |
BS! 
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David K
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Facts are not BS... Do you really bow to the altar of big government and hand over your life to big brother so easily?
Why does the Left fear Fox News and Talk Radio, if they have such better methods for government? People are not stupid, as much as you would hope. How
much longer can we go on with the few providing for the many?
I trust people, and not some bureaucrat 3,000 miles away to spend the money they earn how they see fit for their family.
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I really feel sorry for you if you really believe that Fox News is telling the truth about anything.
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David K
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The same to you if you fall for CNN, ABC, NBC, CBS, MSNBC, etc.
At least Fox gives the news in a way that requires one to think instead of just feeding you the DNC approved lines... or lies.
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| Quote: Originally posted by David K | The same to you if you fall for CNN, ABC, NBC, CBS, MSNBC, etc.
At least Fox gives the news in a way that requires one to think instead of just feeding you the DNC approved lines... or lies. |
  
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DAVID K. AND BARRY A. 2016 !
STFU and throw your hats in the ring. Put up or..........
I don't have a BUCKET LIST, but I do have a F***- IT LIST a mile long!
86 - 45*
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Barry A.
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Right now I am rooting for John Kasich, Governor of Ohio.
Barry
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| Quote: Originally posted by David K | The same to you if you fall for CNN, ABC, NBC, CBS, MSNBC, etc.
At least Fox gives the news in a way that requires one to think instead of just feeding you the DNC approved lines... or lies. |
Oh David. Please check this out. I think there's a movie also. My machine doesn't do movies so you're on your own.
'Didn't know they watch Fox in Russia': Defiant 'kill Russians ' US ex-general insists he told 'truth'
http://rt.com/usa/240829-kill-russians-fox-general-defiant/
Hmm. An ex U.S. General didn't know they watch Fox in Russia???
Not even Jesus can save US now.
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Might try:
http://www.opednews.com/articles/Thou-Art-the-Man-A-Messag-b...
and:
http://www.opednews.com/articles/CNN-Is-Beating-the-Drums-o-...
Wolf Blitzer and the end of the world.
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