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That's true. When I tell folks I eat only plants I usually get favorable comments that indicate folks know it's a healthy way to eat. I want to be
clear, it's not the only healthy way to eat, it's just a healthy way to eat. People are vegans for reasons other than diet.
Bezzell might have been offended by bajabuddha's use of the phrase "vegan crap". Simply using the word "vegan" would have been better.
[Edited on 6-24-2015 by SFandH]
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Quote: Originally posted by SFandH  |
That's true. When I tell folks I eat only plants I usually get favorable comments that indicate folks know it's a healthy way to eat. I want to be
clear, it's not the only healthy way to eat, it's just a healthy way to eat. People are vegans for reasons other than diet.
Bezzell might have been offended by bajabuddha's use of the phrase "vegan crap". Simply using the word "vegan" would have been better.
[Edited on 6-24-2015 by SFandH] |
Agreed! And, I'll acknowledge that I'm hyper-sensitive as a result of being a member of America's most hated minority. We're accustomed to being
talked-down to, and having our intelligence insulted. ;-)
Undoubtedly, there are people who cannot afford to give the anchor of sanity even the slightest tug. Sam Harris
"The situation is far too dire for pessimism."
Bill Kauth
Carl Sagan said, "We are a way for the cosmos to know itself."
PEACE, LOVE AND FISH TACOS
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I'm sorry I even brought this up
After nearly 1900 views and 3 pages of replies, ETC. JJJ might become jealous.
I doubt that anyone besides me even saw Lon's post since it popped up and before I could even reply it was gone and he was banned. Time to kill this
thread before it becomes inedible.
[Edited on 6-24-2015 by durrelllrobert]
[Edited on 6-24-2015 by durrelllrobert]
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Sooo...I guess bringing up "Bacon Wrapped Hot Dogs" will have to wait 'til later.
"YOU CAN'T LITTER ALUMINUM"
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doesn't sound very pleasant, not feeling well? how long ago did you eat them?
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| Quote: Originally posted by vgabndo | Thanks, I'll try to ignore your 3 1/2 brain cell insult and invite you to look at any good scientific evidence and come to any conclusion other than
that humans are opportunistic eaters and that we evolved as omnivores.
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riiiiight. That's why when you see a bunch of cows or chickens or pigs as you're driving down the road, you start to salivate like any true omnivore
spying their prey, right? Not!
(ever stop to wonder why it's necessary to slather carcass w/ either salt / spices or some kind of condiment, just so it's palatable?  )
As for those flesh-ripping canines ... you're not really falling for that nonsense are ya!?? Haven't you looked inside your cat or dog's mouth and
seen what true omnivore canines look like!!??
Here's a visual to help you along. (You're welcome)
http://i0.wp.com/69.195.124.212/~thecomb9/wp-content/uploads...
If you put a weened baby in a crib with an apple and a bunny ... you let me know when the baby instinctively bites into the bunny, and starts playing
with the apple!! 
We got bamboozled, is all.
But you did get one thing right ... we're very successful scavengers. But that doesn't mean you should act like it 3 times a day !! Hey, if I ever
find myself in starvation mode, and you're around ... HELL, I'd even eat you!! In fact, I'd even lean into some chicken menstruations too (over easy
of course! :lol
The human is one huge walking-talking sugar-burning furnace. (EVERY cell in the body is fueled by sugar ... The brain is fueled 100% by sugar (not
fat, not protein)) It's 100% true that we need both fat & protein, but here's the rub ... we need SO little versus (the impt part) what we got
lead to believe. Too much fat and protein over the years and decades, leads to complications like stents!! Period.
We have sugar and salt receptors on our tongue ... NOT fat or protein receptors like true carnivores / omnivores. But we unfortunately live in a
sugar-phobic society! It's f'g ridiculous! That's like saying ... "ooooohhh, you better not put too much gasoline in your car!! oooohhh" (The only
trick is to not eat man-made sugar foods (or rarely is of course more realistic) ... but the sugar foods (that include fiber) that the earth so
perfectly spews forth. The list / options are endless. As I said ... VERY powerful forces are at work for the purpose of profit, at the expense of
citizen's health. It's a 'casualty' of capitalism firing on all cylinders. But Big Pharma is stoked!!
It's 100% unecessary to consume animals nutritionally (unless you're starving of course) but you'll see both physiological and nutritional IDIOTS try
to justify it via Vitamin B3 or D scare tactic nonsense. It's sad.
You're right about the 3.5 brain cell insult. But 150 BILLION lives have zero voice, so FVCK IT ! (no offence)
Now you sharpen those canines, and have a wonderful hotdog filled 4th July! 
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NOMANIA STRIKES AGAIN !
(I still think it's a catchy phrase...)
The whole 'spam' CRAP (oh, how I've insulted the Hawaiians and AK'ers) was HUMOR, folks... lighten the flock up! Jayzus this is a tough crowd...
I once asked an Engineer (gosh, I've never even been on a train... now biatch about THAT ONE.... ) on the topic of "How do they get Teflon to stick to
the pan?"
..........Get it??? ......... It's a JOKE...... so the guy took about 15 minutes to explain to me about the nomenclature of the material and how the
polymers from the material need to bond at excessive heat to the steel and why you shouldn't cook with it especially at high temps......
MY BAD.
FOR ALL THIS, I AM TRULY SORRY. Sheesh.
NOT  
I don't have a BUCKET LIST, but I do have a F***- IT LIST a mile long!
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Proud member of PETA....."People Eating Tasty Animals"
Mexico!! Where two can live as cheaply as one.....but it costs twice as much.....
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| Quote: Originally posted by bajabuddha | Bezzell, my family has a history of coronary disease, so even if I were a bonafide Grazer it'd still be the same outcome.... and they're stEnts, btw.
And those two teeth next to your front four are called "incisors" that are made for ripping flesh; we're natural omnivores (that means we eat a good
balanced diet...ain't rocket science). Fehrsteensiche?
Carrot Killer.
[Edited on 6-24-2015 by bajabuddha] |
oooohh Bhudda-belly I had to save the best for last. Your family history is
irrelevant! (well, that is, unless you were to repeat the same mistakes of course!! )
"Carrot Killer" ... now this one's my favorite!! Let me bring you outta the darkness and into the light. It turns out that plants (obviously
unbeknownst to you) don't have a central nervous system that's attached to a brain, allowing pain to be felt. Do you need me to further elaborate?
I mean, this is not rocket science here
PS: your false incisor comment has been previously addressed. (They're for cutting through foods like apples / carrots etc, while the combination of
side to side jaw mvt (NOT present in carnivores / omnivores) along with flat teeth allow the ensuing grinding. (sigh))
(As for somebody's 'preaching' comment ... that's a reflection of something internally within themselves. Very interesting  )
peace out BRUSSEL SPROUTS! (I think brussel sprouts are the main cause of internal clogging that leads to STROKES!! just sayin' )
[Edited on 6-24-2015 by bezzell]
[Edited on 6-24-2015 by bezzell]
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| Quote: Originally posted by bajabuddha | NOMANIA STRIKES AGAIN !
(I still think it's a catchy phrase...)
The whole 'spam' CRAP (oh, how I've insulted the Hawaiians and AK'ers) was HUMOR, folks... lighten the flock up! Jayzus this is a tough crowd...
I once asked an Engineer (gosh, I've never even been on a train... now biatch about THAT ONE.... ) on the topic of "How do they get Teflon to stick to
the pan?"
..........Get it??? ......... It's a JOKE...... so the guy took about 15 minutes to explain to me about the nomenclature of the material and how the
polymers from the material need to bond at excessive heat to the steel and why you shouldn't cook with it especially at high temps......
MY BAD.
FOR ALL THIS, I AM TRULY SORRY. Sheesh.
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easy there tiger. It's just a virtual chat-room. Don't take it so seriously, you'll blow a stent! (kiddin' of course.)
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No apology necessary!
| Quote: Originally posted by durrelllrobert | After nearly 1900 views and 3 pages of replies, ETC. JJJ might become jealous.
I doubt that anyone besides me even saw Lon's post since it popped up and before I could even reply it was gone and he was banned. Time to kill this
thread before it becomes inedible.
[Edited on 6-24-2015 by durrelllrobert]
[Edited on 6-24-2015 by durrelllrobert] |
I vowed on New Years Eve to not hijack anymore, but since this thread has been off topic practically from the first response, it has been guilt free
trolling. Thanks for playing!
Buddah, this Alaskan sure wasn't offended or insulted (can't speak for the Hawiians), I enjoyed your shtick! I guess I should use smilies to let you
know that I was just playing.
If you are not living on the edge, you are taking up too much space!
"Could do better if he tried!" Report card comments from most of my grade school teachers. Sadly, still true!
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bezzell
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You mean, AFTER you've put A-1 sauce on.
hmmm. veddy interesting
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norte
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| Quote: Originally posted by bezzell | | Quote: Originally posted by vgabndo | Thanks, I'll try to ignore your 3 1/2 brain cell insult and invite you to look at any good scientific evidence and come to any conclusion other than
that humans are opportunistic eaters and that we evolved as omnivores.
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riiiiight. That's why when you see a bunch of cows or chickens or pigs as you're driving down the road, you start to salivate like any true omnivore
spying their prey, right? Not!
(ever stop to wonder why it's necessary to slather carcass w/ either salt / spices or some kind of condiment, just so it's palatable? )
As for those flesh-ripping canines ... you're not really falling for that nonsense are ya!?? Haven't you looked inside your cat or dog's mouth and
seen what true omnivore canines look like!!??
Here's a visual to help you along. (You're welcome)
http://i0.wp.com/69.195.124.212/~thecomb9/wp-content/uploads...
If you put a weened baby in a crib with an apple and a bunny ... you let me know when the baby instinctively bites into the bunny, and starts playing
with the apple!!
We got bamboozled, is all.
But you did get one thing right ... we're very successful scavengers. But that doesn't mean you should act like it 3 times a day !! Hey, if I ever
find myself in starvation mode, and you're around ... HELL, I'd even eat you!! In fact, I'd even lean into some chicken menstruations too (over easy
of course! :lol
The human is one huge walking-talking sugar-burning furnace. (EVERY cell in the body is fueled by sugar ... The brain is fueled 100% by sugar (not
fat, not protein)) It's 100% true that we need both fat & protein, but here's the rub ... we need SO little versus (the impt part) what we got
lead to believe. Too much fat and protein over the years and decades, leads to complications like stents!! Period.
We have sugar and salt receptors on our tongue ... NOT fat or protein receptors like true carnivores / omnivores. But we unfortunately live in a
sugar-phobic society! It's f'g ridiculous! That's like saying ... "ooooohhh, you better not put too much gasoline in your car!! oooohhh" (The only
trick is to not eat man-made sugar foods (or rarely is of course more realistic) ... but the sugar foods (that include fiber) that the earth so
perfectly spews forth. The list / options are endless. As I said ... VERY powerful forces are at work for the purpose of profit, at the expense of
citizen's health. It's a 'casualty' of capitalism firing on all cylinders. But Big Pharma is stoked!!
It's 100% unecessary to consume animals nutritionally (unless you're starving of course) but you'll see both physiological and nutritional IDIOTS try
to justify it via Vitamin B3 or D scare tactic nonsense. It's sad.
You're right about the 3.5 brain cell insult. But 150 BILLION lives have zero voice, so FVCK IT ! (no offence)
Now you sharpen those canines, and have a wonderful hotdog filled 4th July!
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guess someone should have told that to neanderthal/Paleolithic hunters.
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| Quote: Originally posted by bajabuddha |
And those two teeth next to your front four are called "incisors" that are made for ripping flesh; we're natural omnivores |
bbuddha, like this? Now she's a dedicated omnivore.
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Holy crap!! Just how old are you that you have such intimate knowledge??
Actually, studies of teeth have shown just how much a myth it is, that hunting played such a huge role. We were by far gathering, way more than
hunting.
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| Quote: Originally posted by bezzell |
Holy crap!! Just how old are you that you have such intimate knowledge??
Actually, studies of teeth have shown just how much a myth it is, that hunting played such a huge role. We were by far gathering, way more than
hunting. |
Poor little boy. Old enough to have more intelligence than you. hey were hunters and meat eaters for a reason. Grow up.
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| Quote: Originally posted by norte |
Poor little boy. Old enough to have more intelligence than you. hey were hunters and meat eaters for a reason. Grow up. |
oooooK then
Senor Mexico-is-a-chithole.
! That's one way to react to one's lifetime beliefs being shattered by science! HAHA
Upstairs for thinking Tonto. Are you seriously this dumb? Do you realise how many calories are needed to hunt vs pick some fruit etc. Ye gods man ...
you didn't spawn did ya ?? 
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I imagine that in pre-historic times if you lived in mid to northern latitudes there wasn't too much food that could be gathered in the winter. Hunt
or die.
In the summer, the more tranquil neanderthals sat around munching on nuts and berries and the yahoos went out and chased the rabbits.
Just a theory.
But that's not the case now, at least not for everybody reading this. Now the only reason to eat animal products is because they taste good. Nothing
more.
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Speaking of fruits and nuts....Actually science tells us that people (the tranquil ones) ate meat even if they were only insects. We developed the
way we are (the strongest survived) by hunting and foraging. Being a vegetarian (nothing wrong with it today) is a recent phenomenon in our long
history. Don't know why people have to search for a reason in history to be a vege. We have yet to find an ancient society (agricultural ones as
well) that did not eat meat.
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norte
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| Quote: Originally posted by bezzell | | Quote: Originally posted by norte |
Poor little boy. Old enough to have more intelligence than you. hey were hunters and meat eaters for a reason. Grow up. |
oooooK then
Senor Mexico-is-a-chithole.
! That's one way to react to one's lifetime beliefs being shattered by science! HAHA
Upstairs for thinking Tonto. Are you seriously this dumb? Do you realise how many calories are needed to hunt vs pick some fruit etc. Ye gods man ...
you didn't spawn did ya ??
[Edited on 6-25-2015 by bezzell]
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Given that the fiercest hunters were that most sought after mates to ensure survival of the gene pool, I would think you should start worrying about
erectile dysfunction to go along with your command of the English language.
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