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bajatrailrider
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Quote: Originally posted by rts551  | | Quote: Originally posted by David K | [rquote=
I think people should enjoy our planet as much as they wish... it is "our" planet, after all. Maybe more people, older people, handicapped people
have some comfort to get outdoors because of modern devices?
The point is, thanks to hard working private individuals, such as 4x4abc, these washed out or abandoned roads can still be used by a tiny few
individuals and they could provide a rescue to others who risk hiking far from civilization. |
Use it up because it is there? I don't get it.....some areas need to be set aside for future generations. It is everybody's planet...not just
yours. |
Can you stop a storm,that changes the landscape? No you cant,so not to worry about few 4x4s
that go there.Then another storm,changes the landscape again.Wipes out anything that was every there.Worry about something else.
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rts551
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| Quote: Originally posted by bajatrailrider | | Quote: Originally posted by rts551 | | Quote: Originally posted by David K | [rquote=
I think people should enjoy our planet as much as they wish... it is "our" planet, after all. Maybe more people, older people, handicapped people
have some comfort to get outdoors because of modern devices?
The point is, thanks to hard working private individuals, such as 4x4abc, these washed out or abandoned roads can still be used by a tiny few
individuals and they could provide a rescue to others who risk hiking far from civilization. |
Use it up because it is there? I don't get it.....some areas need to be set aside for future generations. It is everybody's planet...not just
yours. |
Can you stop a storm,that changes the landscape? No you cant,so not to worry about few 4x4s
that go there.Then another storm,changes the landscape again.Wipes out anything that was every there.Worry about something else. |
My worry is not about Mother Nature. My worry is about the ignorance that thinks everything is there to abuse.
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rts551
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| Quote: Originally posted by David K | | Not to worry Ralph, according to the religion you follow, all these trails improved by hard working four wheelers, like Harald and Tom, will be under
water from the rising sea level in a few years! |
You still think the Peninsula is sinking like a corkscrew huh. Now that is a religion I have never heard of before. Your not smoking that medical
stuff are you...its for back pain...not ignorance.
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bajatrailrider
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| Quote: Originally posted by rts551 | | Quote: Originally posted by David K | | Not to worry Ralph, according to the religion you follow, all these trails improved by hard working four wheelers, like Harald and Tom, will be under
water from the rising sea level in a few years! |
You still think the Peninsula is sinking like a corkscrew huh. Now that is a religion I have never heard of before. Your not smoking that medical
stuff are you...its for back pain...not ignorance.
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I see we have another sick one here.You dont have a clue,you just talk the talk no action.You go
out there and tell me,about the 4 tire tracks,that wreck the world.Please give it a brake.Your out of your knowledge.If you cant enjoy life,complain
to someone else.
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What is with this Ralph guy, David advocate use of our land and Ralph turns it into abuse. M/C guys have mostly switched to 4 stokes which are better
for the environment and some are going to trials tires which hardly leave a mark. Sorry Ralph not every off roader is whacked out knuckle dragger.
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rts551
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| Quote: Originally posted by DirkEXC | | What is with this Ralph guy, David advocate use of our land and Ralph turns it into abuse. M/C guys have mostly switched to 4 stokes which are better
for the environment and some are going to trials tires which hardly leave a mark. Sorry Ralph not every off roader is whacked out knuckle dragger.
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I too am an off-roader. I just don't believe in statements like "I think people should enjoy our planet as much as they wish... it is "our" planet,
after all"
leaves the impression that we are all "whacked out knuckle dragger".
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rts551
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| Quote: Originally posted by bajatrailrider | | Quote: Originally posted by rts551 | | Quote: Originally posted by David K | | Not to worry Ralph, according to the religion you follow, all these trails improved by hard working four wheelers, like Harald and Tom, will be under
water from the rising sea level in a few years! |
You still think the Peninsula is sinking like a corkscrew huh. Now that is a religion I have never heard of before. Your not smoking that medical
stuff are you...its for back pain...not ignorance.
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I see we have another sick one here.You dont have a clue,you just talk the talk no action.You go
out there and tell me,about the 4 tire tracks,that wreck the world.Please give it a brake.Your out of your knowledge.If you cant enjoy life,complain
to someone else. |
I would lay off the smoke there my friend. It is starting to show.
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David K
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How is it you interpret "enjoying the planet" as a bad thing if one owns a four wheel drive vehicle?
Owning motorcycles and quads and racing in dirt is okay, because you like it... but driving slow, in low range over rocks is bad, because you don't do
that?
Include don't exclude!
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bajatrailrider
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| Quote: Originally posted by rts551 | | Quote: Originally posted by bajatrailrider | | Quote: Originally posted by rts551 | | Quote: Originally posted by David K | | Not to worry Ralph, according to the religion you follow, all these trails improved by hard working four wheelers, like Harald and Tom, will be under
water from the rising sea level in a few years! |
You still think the Peninsula is sinking like a corkscrew huh. Now that is a religion I have never heard of before. Your not smoking that medical
stuff are you...its for back pain...not ignorance.
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I see we have another sick one here.You dont have a clue,you just talk the talk no action.You go
out there and tell me,about the 4 tire tracks,that wreck the world.Please give it a brake.Your out of your knowledge.If you cant enjoy life,complain
to someone else. |
I would lay off the smoke there my friend. It is starting to show.
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Your no off road guy,just talk.I will zip it,when you show us.How your a off road guy.You maybe a
use to be off road guy.That cant do it any more.So you just talk.Worry about,people in Mexico that have no food.Dont worry about something you cant
change.Just another pot head,that only talks.
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motoged
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Now boys.....take a breath 
Riding and driving machinery off established roads is a way to have fun....no reason a person can't think of the "privilege" in a way that respects
the planet....the next rain does NOT wash it all away....
And it has nothing to do with smoking pot.....unless that is a stage of prep in the pits.....like that beer so ubiquitous in the pits....
Don't believe everything you think....
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rts551
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Well said Ged....It is a privilege.
My pot days were gone 40 years ago. Some people keep it up until they can no longer spell or write a complete sentence.
[Edited on 11-10-2015 by rts551]
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rts551
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| Quote: Originally posted by bajatrailrider | | Quote: Originally posted by rts551 | | Quote: Originally posted by bajatrailrider | | Quote: Originally posted by rts551 | | Quote: Originally posted by David K | | Not to worry Ralph, according to the religion you follow, all these trails improved by hard working four wheelers, like Harald and Tom, will be under
water from the rising sea level in a few years! |
You still think the Peninsula is sinking like a corkscrew huh. Now that is a religion I have never heard of before. Your not smoking that medical
stuff are you...its for back pain...not ignorance.
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I see we have another sick one here.You dont have a clue,you just talk the talk no action.You go
out there and tell me,about the 4 tire tracks,that wreck the world.Please give it a brake.Your out of your knowledge.If you cant enjoy life,complain
to someone else. |
I would lay off the smoke there my friend. It is starting to show.
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Your no off road guy,just talk.I will zip it,when you show us.How your a off road guy.You maybe a
use to be off road guy.That cant do it any more.So you just talk.Worry about,people in Mexico that have no food.Dont worry about something you cant
change.Just another pot head,that only talks. |
Go ahead and zip it ... Ask your cohort DK. He knows I do off-road. I just happen to be one that can put a complete sentence together.
[Edited on 11-10-2015 by rts551]
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motoged
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| Quote: Originally posted by rts551 | ..... I just happen to be one that can put a complete sentence together.
[Edited on 11-10-2015 by rts551] |
yess....und yur speling is betur two 
Don't believe everything you think....
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mtgoat666
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| Quote: Originally posted by rts551 | | Quote: Originally posted by DirkEXC | | What is with this Ralph guy, David advocate use of our land and Ralph turns it into abuse. M/C guys have mostly switched to 4 stokes which are better
for the environment and some are going to trials tires which hardly leave a mark. Sorry Ralph not every off roader is whacked out knuckle dragger.
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I too am an off-roader. I just don't believe in statements like "I think people should enjoy our planet as much as they wish... it is "our" planet,
after all"
leaves the impression that we are all "whacked out knuckle dragger".
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In my experience, the majority of off-roaders you meet in the outback are knuckledraggers - that's why I don't support multi use of public lands, as
the majority are hell bent on destruction, intentional or not.
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motoged
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Goat,
George Carlin once pointed out that, if you made a graph of the IQ's of the country's population, the bell curve would indicate that 33% of the
population is chronically stupid at any one point in time.
As an off-roader (motos), my knuckles have no scars or bleeding skin, so I am glad to be somewhere on the right-hand side of that graph....but my neck
is very sore from a face-plant this weekend riding on a marked approved slippery single track trail....
Don't believe everything you think....
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rts551
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Goat, You should no better than put everyone in a bucket. Its like saying everyone who uses solar is an Eco-extremist. Granted there are some that
do not care for the things they use...They abuse the privilege. But there are a lot of off-roaders that care for the land and the environment.
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dtbushpilot
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| Quote: Originally posted by motoged | Goat,
George Carlin once pointed out that, if you made a graph of the IQ's of the country's population, the bell curve would indicate that 33% of the
population is chronically stupid at any one point in time.
As an off-roader (motos), my knuckles have no scars or bleeding skin, so I am glad to be somewhere on the right-hand side of that graph....but my neck
is very sore from a face-plant this weekend riding on a marked approved slippery single track trail....
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Your knuckles aren't bleeding because you wear those fancy gloves with with padding over the knuckles. 
"Life is tough".....It's even tougher if you're stupid.....
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mtgoat666
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| Quote: Originally posted by rts551 | | Goat, You should no better than put everyone in a bucket. Its like saying everyone who uses solar is an Eco-extremist. Granted there are some that
do not care for the things they use...They abuse the privilege. But there are a lot of off-roaders that care for the land and the environment.
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You did not read what I wrote. The majority are knuckle draggers. The best approach is say no to everyone. The silent majority cannot control their
bad eggs, so crush all the eggs, I say, eh.
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rts551
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Makes no sense...its like crush all environmentalists, or all news reporters, or all policemen.
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motoged
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No, David....it's partially due to the wisdom of wearing the correct gear (ATGATT)....but mostly because you insisted on leading and breaking
trail....
...as for feeding an entire village.....well, I am just that gracious
Don't believe everything you think....
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