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willardguy
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I think toyota makes GREAT cars, head gaskets, not so much! I've been walking for a month, this well maintained 4runner only made till the 188K
mark......you just never know 
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Mexitron
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Quote: Originally posted by pappy  | | I have a 2001 Chevy that I ordered from factory has over 200k no usage of oil no leaks in other words no reason to get a new one every few
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Just sold my 2000 Silverado at 225,000 miles 2 yrs ago, no major problems except some front struts needed replacing--that's a truck that was used for
hauling at work and Baja, so well used. Have a 2015 2500 Silverado now--3800 lb weight capacity, great truck.
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I replaced the head gaskets and a cracked head 4 years ago on a 1998 Exploder (it had overheated). Cleaned lots of carbon off the pistons. Still going
strong.
I saw that they offered a "heavy duty" gasket set for it, which was only $20 more, and went with that. Not sure if it made a difference but they
seemed to be better quality, maybe more dense than the other ones. I had wanted to mention it before when I saw your post about doing the head gaskets
on your vehicle, willardguy.
That is one job I doubt I will ever do again with the engine in the car! My back is still killing me ... 
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tripledigitken
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| Quote: Originally posted by willardguy | I think toyota makes GREAT cars, head gaskets, not so much! I've been walking for a month, this well maintained 4runner only made till the 188K
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I feel your pain.
I had 1990 Toy SR5 4x pickup just out of warrantee, I was the original owner, that blew a head gasket. It was, at the time, a known problem. Toyota
would not work with me. My cost was over $1000 to repair. About 2 yrs later it blew a piston at 80,000 miles. At that point there was a recall for
the head gasket. Toyota wouldn't work with me on the engine repair. I went as far up as the regional warantee contact for the west coast. They
could at least have reinbursed me for the gasket failure, but no. Many would agree the engine failure was related to the head gasket failure. Toyota
V6's arn't known for blowing pistons at 80k normally. The engine cost $4k to repair.
I have not owned a Toyota since.
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Barry A.
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My '97 Toy Camry LXT blew it's auto-tranny at 81K miles in 2005 for no apparent reason------very unusual, but stuff does happen----$3100 bucks for a
rebuilt dealer-installed. Now has 146K and has been otherwise flawless. I love my Camry, and would definitely own another Toyota.
I am very encouraged to hear some say on this thread that American Cars have improved in quality and reliability-------would love to buy American
again, and will strongly consider when the time comes.
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rts551
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| Quote: Originally posted by Doug/Vamonos | | Buy American. All cars have improved dramatically and I don't believe it is accurate to make blanket statements that US cars and trucks are crap. Yes,
I know many car parts are sourced outside the US. But still...buy American. Waving the flag and driving the KIA just does not look right. And last I
saw it is not US vessels that are killing the Cortez fisheries. So you can send a message also. |
How can you tell which cars are "American" any more?
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PaulW
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On new vehicles the % of US content is documented on the sticker.
True lots of parts are foreign sourced then vehicle is assembled in the US.
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TMW
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The 4 runner is all Japanese parts and assembly. The Tacoma is assembled in Texas and Baja I don't remember the parts mix but close to 50/50. Tundra
is assembled in Texas. I don't know what they did with the SW Indiana plant where they were assembled. Camry is a Kentuck assembly and parts are 60/40
US I think.
It should be noted that at one time the FORD Crown Victoria had so much foreign parts and I believed it was assembled in Mexico that it was considered
a foreign vehicle.
There is such a cross of parts and assembly lines around the world that no vehicle is really all US. What about Tesla any foreign parts used?
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KurtG
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| Quote: Originally posted by TMW | | I have a 2004 Tacoma with 438,000 miles and does not use oil between 5,000 mile changes and never had any problems of any kind. Great off-road too. It
pulls chevys, Dodge, Ford, and Land rovers out of any difficulty. |
I envy the off-road ability of your Tacoma. While our Explorer has taken us on some pretty rough roads it is not a candidate for the NWT or Mission
Santa Maria. A bit of caution is needed and I am always prepared to turn around when the route gets too difficult. I keep fantasizing about what we
will get when it finally dies but am beginning to think the damned thing will outlive me.
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toyota
I have to smile when I think about what our Grand Daughter says when she talks about cars she doesn't like. She says I just wouldn't Look Good
driving that Car.
I have always felt that way about Toyota for no particular reason other than I just don't think I would look good Driving one.
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mtgoat666
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| Quote: Originally posted by J.P. | I have to smile when I think about what our Grand Daughter says when she talks about cars she doesn't like. She says I just wouldn't Look Good
driving that Car.
I have always felt that way about Toyota for no particular reason other than I just don't think I would look good Driving one.
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Get a hairstyle and BMI to match your car. Problem solved.
Woke!
“...ask not what your country can do for you – ask what you can do for your country.” “My fellow citizens of the world: ask not what America
will do for you, but what together we can do for the freedom of man.”
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MMc
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Trucks and tires are the same. My favorites are the ones that get me home.
I don't like diesels because of the cost and getting somebody to work on them in Baja. I like a 8ft bed on my truck with a big cab, so a Toyota and
the Canyon are out. I am sure they are great, as are most of the trucks being made today.
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[Edited on 12-21-2016 by MMc]
"Never teach a pig to sing it frustrates you and annoys the pig" - W.C.Fields
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Doug/Vamonos
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The truth about vehicle manufacturers today is they are all doing joint projects and have co-ownership. Ford/Mazda. GM/Toyota/Suzuki/Isuzu. Not sure
who Dodge is with now. But without a doubt, profits from Toyota/Honda/etc mostly go back to Japan, no matter where they are built or what color the
employees on the floor are. Profits from Kia and Hyundai mostly go back to Korea. Japan and Korea, among other asian countries are totally destroying
the worlds fisheries and will continue doing so until nothing swims. Buy a Dodge or Chevy or Ford and write a letter to Toyota, Kia, Honda, Hyundai
and tell them you didn't buy from them because they are destroying our fisheries. Will it matter? If enough people do it maybe. Full disclosure, I do
have a used Suzuki 4x4 in Baja, a Nissan outboard, a Yamaha quad, a Kawasaki street bike, a couple Honda generators, and I bought a Honda Civic CNG
for the wife to commute the freeways in years past. But other than that I've been driving Ford trucks and GM cars for twenty years and I'll keep it
that way. Love my Powerstroke 6.0 (yep-never lets me down) and my modded Pontiac G8 smokes any ricer I've ever come across. Yep, built by GM in
Australia, but a US drive train. End of lecture. Class dismissed. :-)
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TMW
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Everybody loves what they drive until they change to another brand then it is the best. Profits pay stock dividends regardless where the company is
located.
For those that think we should not buy foreign vehicles what would happen if the rest of the world stopped buying US cars and trucks. Should everyone
stop buying foreign motorcycles and ATV too. What about your shirts, T shirts, socks and underwear. Pull your head out of your a$$ and think about
what you are saying and how stupid it is.
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Doug/Vamonos
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Hah hah. Pull my head out of my ass. Nice guy. Happy Holidays.
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David K
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I bought my Toyota brand product from an American dealership, in America. The truck was delivered via an American trucking company (at least from the
Baja border, since my truck was made in Baja. American service my truck and on the RARE occasion something breaks, an American will fix it. It runs on
American gas (except in Baja) and is lubricated with American made synthetic oils.
Once an American brand makes a mid-size truck with the quality and dependability of a Tacoma, I would buy it... but the last two American brand
vehicles I bought (Jeep and Plymouth) were mechanical and financial nightmares.
Sure, someday my Tacoma might break down... but, so far, my three Tacomas have never disappointed me... and it was (today's) Baja Nomad members
(Amigos de Baja in 2000) that convinced me to get the Tacoma TRD Truck... especially, Neal Johns!
Happy Festivus!
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rts551
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| Quote: Originally posted by David K | I bought my Toyota brand product from an American dealership, in America. The truck was delivered via an American trucking company (at least from the
Baja border, since my truck was made in Baja. American service my truck and on the RARE occasion something breaks, an American will fix it. It runs on
American gas (except in Baja) and is lubricated with American made synthetic oils.
Once an American brand makes a mid-size truck with the quality and dependability of a Tacoma, I would buy it... but the last two American brand
vehicles I bought (Jeep and Plymouth) were mechanical and financial nightmares.
Sure, someday my Tacoma might break down... but, so far, my three Tacomas have never disappointed me... and it was (today's) Baja Nomad members
(Amigos de Baja in 2000) that convinced me to get the Tacoma TRD Truck... especially, Neal Johns!
Happy Festivus! |
Yes, you can justify it any way you want. Its still a foreign vehicle. Most people justify their decisions that way, even as holding the by
America flag.
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David K
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Is it more 'honest' to buy a Ford (or ?) that was made in Mexico (or Canada) then bragging how wonderful you are that you bought an American car? I
think the Tacoma or Tundra is as much American product as Ford or Chevy if you break it down to what was made where and the nationality of the people
who receive an income because of that purchase.... and not repair mechanics only!
My father told me that the American thing to do is buy the best product at the best price. In a market-based economy, competition forces other makers
to improve their product or lower their price. The consumer determines what products survive. It's a consumer win-win for quality and price.
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mtgoat666
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Consumerism is one of gringo's ugliest traits. Perhaps only an American would equate shopping to patriotism. Crikey!
Woke!
“...ask not what your country can do for you – ask what you can do for your country.” “My fellow citizens of the world: ask not what America
will do for you, but what together we can do for the freedom of man.”
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rts551
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| Quote: Originally posted by David K | Is it more 'honest' to buy a Ford (or ?) that was made in Mexico (or Canada) then bragging how wonderful you are that you bought an American car? I
think the Tacoma or Tundra is as much American product as Ford or Chevy if you break it down to what was made where and the nationality of the people
who receive an income because of that purchase.... and not repair mechanics only!
My father told me that the American thing to do is buy the best product at the best price. In a market-based economy, competition forces other makers
to improve their product or lower their price. The consumer determines what products survive. It's a consumer win-win for quality and price.
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I am so glad to hear this. Hopefully you will also fight against any tariffs that are imposed against foreign manufacturers. Repair mechanics are
out there for all makes and models. They are not part of the equation.
Make Toyota great again!
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