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[*] posted on 9-29-2020 at 11:43 AM


"Never screw with someone who cares a lot less about seeing tomorrow than you do."

That leaves out a lot of people.

And how true !!!!!!!!!!

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[*] posted on 10-30-2020 at 07:04 AM


Quote: Originally posted by paranewbi  
As an additional side note...
There are quite a few racers withdrawing from the upcoming 500 due to security concerns.
There are crews resisting attendance and hints of personal body guards being provided by some race entrants.

I'm not involved and can only report what I am hearing from some who are fearful of speaking out.

They do read the information such as this thread floating around the internet and watching others withdraw from the race.
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[*] posted on 10-30-2020 at 07:08 AM


I am thinking as most of my trips down there, that if you avoid cities (as I do in any country including the USA) you are safer, crooks don't typically frequent out of the way places... usually but not always. This was pasted from the US Embassy regarding travel in Baja:


Baja California state – Exercise Increased Caution

Exercise increased caution due to crime.

Criminal activity and violence occur throughout the state. Particularly notable is the number of homicides in non-tourist areas of Tijuana. Most homicides appeared to be targeted; however, criminal organization assassinations and turf battles can result in bystanders being injured or killed.

Due to poor cellular service and hazardous road conditions, U.S. government employees may only travel on Highway 2D between Mexicali and Tijuana during daylight hours.

There are no additional restrictions on travel for U.S. government employees in Baja California, which includes tourist areas in: Ensenada, Rosarito, and Tijuana.

Baja California Sur state – Exercise Increased Caution

Exercise increased caution due to crime.

Criminal activity and violence occur throughout the state, including in areas frequented by U.S. citizens. Bystanders have been injured or killed in shooting incidents related to criminal organization turf battles. Petty crime occurs frequently in tourist areas.

There are no restrictions on travel for U.S. government employees in Baja California Sur, which includes tourist areas in: Cabo San Lucas, San Jose del Cabo, and La Paz.
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[*] posted on 10-30-2020 at 02:15 PM


I just returned from 2 1/2 weeks traveling with my wife and kids. I too avoid big cities, but felt as safe as usual in Loreto, La Paz and SJDC. That said, I never feel totally safe in any big city (including my local big city, LA) so we park in visible places and stay in our hotel/Airbnb once the sun goes down.

Certainly felt safe as normal camping away from cities.

I was paying attention to while passing through cities for signs of economic distress. I figured the uninvited window washing and nicnack peddling would be more aggressive if people were feeling desperate. I noticed nothing out of the normal there and never felt /more/ at risk of theft than normal.

If anything, it seemed like there was a huge amount of infrastructure spending (roads, bridges, street cleaning, etc) that was in response to lacking tourism income. I’ve never experienced such good driving in Baja in my 30 years of traveling there. Such good roads!

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[*] posted on 10-31-2020 at 10:12 AM


I've lived here full time for seven years and I can't see an uptick in crime.

People here are used to adversity and government that is relatively ineffective. They are used to it. The only real difference is that these people KNOW what to do when things get bad, you put up an awning on the side of the road and start selling your stuff. Or burritos, or cornbread, or cheese, you trade stuff at the swap meet, or...

These people are smart. They will weather the coming difficulties much better than people north of the border.
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