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El Comadante Loco
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Wow!!! This is the best stuff I have read.. It is full of sex, drugs, land grabs, money, mafia, turtles, gays, bureauacracy, intrigue and deceit. I
was worried what to do with my spare time since all the TV shows had their final episodes for the season.. This almost as good as LOST.
I want to thank all the cast of characters from Buenaventura for a great performance. You all should be up for an award " BAJA'S MOST OUTSTANDING AND
CORUPT PENDEJOS "
I can't wait for the next episode in this caper..
Who gets the book deals and movie rights? These may be worth more than the hotel, restaurant, land and the turtles...
GOD SAVE THE TURTLES
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CaboRon
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ArroyoTaxi
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Gays and machetes and drugs.... OH MY.
Every single person involved in this cluster**** needs to take a c-cktail of Paxil, Ritalin and Tequila.
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ramuma53
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Maria Olivia Higuers Aguilar and MarkJerome Burbey going to Jail this week
Olivia is being prosecuted by a La Paz judge that is not accecible to the Estate District Atorney, corruption is out of the question, their atempts
failed already.
They can be aprhended at any minute by the Federal Police.
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Sharksbaja
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This has got to be a ground-breaking event here. Mr. Munoz is prefacing the purported criminal trial with information acquired from ...... ???
Why are you tipping them off that they will be arrested? Isn't THAT illegal?
DON\'T SQUINT! Give yer eyes a break!
Try holding down [control] key and toggle the [+ and -] keys
Viva Mulege!
Nomads\' Sunsets
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ramuma53
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It is not a secret, she is on bail only while the judge verified the charges, she may even find her charges unfounded and release her at once or he
may find them funded and put her in jail for the trial, it is up to him.
Even her attorney know it, the only new fact is that she will be tried by an honest judge not accesible to the Estate District Attorney and that the
time to know if she will be out or in is near.
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Bajajack
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Just stirring the Turtle Pot back to the top.
\"take what you can, give nothing back!\"
We have room for but one language here, and that is the English language... and we have room for but one sole loyalty and that is a loyalty to the
American people.\'
Theodore Roosevelt 1907
We can have no \"50-50\" allegiance in this country. Either a man is an American and nothing else, or he is not an American at all.
Theodore Roosevelt
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KAT54
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So far this is what I understand from all this.
Correct me if I am wrong.
The Edijo rented land to Mike an American.
Munoz says Mike was a drug runner flying drugs
from the mainland to baja then north to the USA.
Mike built the hotel with drug money.
Mike sold the hotel to an Italian gay couple.
Olivia managed the hotel.
The gay couple fired Olivia for stealing funds.
Munoz says she was a “coke head” with powder up her nose.
She used the funds from the hotel to get a beach concession in front of the hotel.
Olivia caught Mike doing “The Wild Monkey” with a 16 year old on the bar in the restaurant.
Mikes girlfriend was the daughter of a well know realtor in the Mulege area.
Olivia kicked Mike out.
Mike flew away with his young girlfriend never to be heard of again.
Mike is either dead from a plane crash or living with his young wife.
Olivia hires a “young drifter” Mark (Narc) to work the bar.
Narc is younger than Olivia.
Soon Olivia and Narc are doing “The Wild Monkey” on the bar.
Want to eat there?
About 10 years ago, Munoz shows up with a land title.
Edijo does not fight the title.
Munoz says he filed for the property in 1971 when he was 20 years old.
He gives $50k to the gay couple and takes over management the hotel.
Where did Munoz get $50k?
Olivia and Narc say the money comes from drug trafficking.
Munoz employees are arrested for drug crimes.
Munoz says he knows this but cannot do anything about his employee’s actions.
Narc says their picture is at an Army checkpoint in Loreto.
Munoz says Olivia and Narc are using the beach for drug trafficking.
He says they receive boatloads of drugs all the time at 3AM.
No one has seen this except Munoz.
He made a tape but no one has seen it.
Narc and Olivia never get caught.
One time, there is a “fight” in the restaurant where Munoz
says Narc almost killed another American.
His employees saved this guy before
Narc and Olivia could drownd him in the ocean.
Olivia is seen yelling “Narc, kill him”
Munoz says he “pounded” Narc one time when Narc confronted him.
Munoz is a “karate” champion.
Like Chuck Norris.
Recently, Olivia gets “P-nched” for selling turtle soup.
Munoz knows about this before it happens.
Looks like a “setup”.
Authorities were called a week before it happened.
Olivia is released on bail.
Munoz says Narc and Olivia will be arrested next week.
How does he know?
People that rent houses on the beach are moving out.
Too dangerous to live there and they get robbed all the time.
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arrowhead
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Bajaboy
| Quote: | Originally posted by arrowhead
LOL, ignore the message. Shoot the messenger.
This board is a real brain trust. |
Your credentials, please? |
You want my credentials? As if there is something that I could post here that would somehow qualify me. Now, wouldn't that just be another variation
of "shoot the messenger" ?
Wait, I know. You know that 16-year old that Mike was boning? Her name is Gabby.
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gnukid
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| Quote: | Originally posted by KAT54
So far this is what I understand from all this.
Correct me if I am wrong.
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This is what happened, Munoz got confronted by 5 mistresses who each have had a beautiful daughter all of whom are named the same name, 'Juanes'. All
five daughters came to live with Munoz and las cinco Juanes cause all sorts of trouble. Eventually Munoz is hit by a car driven by one of his
daughters and he claims he remembers nothing of the affairs.
Olivia was riding a bus which had an accident, Olivia jumped out and helped a wealthy woman who was hit and injured, in kindness in return the woman
makes Olivia the co-president along with Munoz of the woman's huge company. Chaos ensures when Olivia and Munoz fight over who takes charge of the
corporation.
Or I am confusing this story with my favorite telenovela?
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ArroyoTaxi
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I think it might be time for this thread to get its own category. I have some suggestions for the title:
1) General Baja ******baggery
2) Baja Questions and ******bags
3) Baja ****** Reports
4) Baja Bags of ****** Reviews
Obviously, these are just ideas and the whole concept could evolve.
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24baja
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| Quote: | Originally posted by ArroyoTaxi
I think it might be time for this thread to get its own category. I have some suggestions for the title:
1) General Baja ******baggery
2) Baja Questions and ******bags
3) Baja ****** Reports
4) Baja Bags of ****** Reviews
Obviously, these are just ideas and the whole concept could evolve. |
How about "As Mulege Turns" or "Have Drugs will Travel".
This is tooooo much.
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Bajaboy
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| Quote: | Originally posted by arrowhead
| Quote: | Originally posted by Bajaboy
| Quote: | Originally posted by arrowhead
LOL, ignore the message. Shoot the messenger.
This board is a real brain trust. |
Your credentials, please? |
You want my credentials? As if there is something that I could post here that would somehow qualify me. Now, wouldn't that just be another variation
of "shoot the messenger" ?
Wait, I know. You know that 16-year old that Mike was boning? Her name is Gabby. |
Well if the messenger is telling BS, why yes, shoot the messenger
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rpleger
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Mulegé is a slow beach town in Baja where nothing exciting ever happens...
Richard on the Hill
*ABROAD*, adj. At war with savages and idiots. To be a Frenchman abroad is to
be miserable; to be an American abroad is to make others miserable.
-- Ambrose Bierce, _The Enlarged Devil\'s Dictionary_
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ramuma53
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KAT54
The Edijo rented land to Mike an American.
No, the Ejido rented some land to Olivia a Mexican
Munoz says Mike was a drug runner flying drugs from the mainland to baja then north to the USA.
Sorry I did not say that, Arrowhead said it but I know from other sources it is right, they were bringing it in shoe boxes.
Mike built the hotel with drug money.
No, an Italian couple, Roberto and Franca Meloni rented the land from me and built the hotel, Olivia or Mike did not put a penny, he just charged
Roberto for the labor.
Mike sold the hotel to an Italian gay couple.
Roberto and Franca Meloni are Italian but not Gay.
Olivia managed the hotel.
Correct, with a power of attorney as an employee.
The gay couple fired Olivia for stealing funds.
Correct all the way.
Munoz says she was a “coke head” with powder up her nose.
Sorry she was not, she is up to this day, the last I heard she was up 3 days without a bath and completely drunk.
She used the funds from the hotel to get a beach concession in front of the hotel.
Correct, she paid from the Hotel money and the bills are in the Hotel paid bills.
Olivia caught Mike doing “The Wild Monkey” with a 16 year old on the bar in the restaurant.
Correct all the way but at that time she was 15 years old.
Mikes girlfriend was the daughter of a well know realtor in the Mulege area.
Olivia kicked Mike out.
For What I know he walked on her because of obvious problems.
Mike flew away with his young girlfriend never to be heard of again.
He is still in Sinaloa, some said he died but other people said he are in contact with him and still a drug runner.
Mike is either dead from a plane crash or living with his young wife.
Right.
Olivia hires a “young drifter” Mark (Narc) to work the bar.
Right, a very ambitious and coward drifter who owns a lot of money in California for child support.
Narc is younger than Olivia.
About 15 years, she is 55 years old and he is about 40.
Soon Olivia and Narc are doing “The Wild Monkey” on the bar.
Correct.
Want to eat there?
No.
About 10 years ago, Munoz shows up with a land title.
I own it since 1972, I rented to Meloni in 1994, my title was issued in 1987 and corrected in 1994.
Edijo does not fight the title.
Olivia started an Agrarian Trial, the Ejido supported her, then they found out that they had agreed to my boundaries in 1985 and dropped their claims
against me and only Olivia’s Claim Against Stan Valentine, Thad, Mr. Murphy and other Americans, trying to collect form them a lot of money for
renting from her my property.
Munoz says he filed for the property in 1971 when he was 20 years old.
There are official papers to prove it, just check www.munoz-industries.com/vaquera.html
He gives $50k to the gay couple and takes over management the hotel.
Wrong, I paid Mr. Roberto and Franca Meloni what they had expended in the building and they went back to Italy, but they are still my friends and are
in constant contact.
Where did Munoz get $50k?
My other legal businesses, like ABC Newspaper in Baja, Playa Encantada and Inmobiliaria Real de Mexico S.A. de C.V. in Rosarito Beach, Metaldynamics
in Tijuana and an Ingeniering tophography firm in Tijuana plus other smaller businesses.
Olivia and Narc say the money comes from drug trafficking.
False and I am well investigated by the Federal Police since I was a Senate Candidate in the 2000 National Elections, plus of course a Newspaper
owner.
Munoz employees are arrested for drug crimes.
To this day no employee of mine has been in jail while my employee, I cannot guarantee that in the past they may have been, but I guarantee that if
any of them has anything to do with anything illegal today, they will be fired at once.
Munoz says he knows this but cannot do anything about his employee’s actions.
That is true, I can only fire them.
Narc says their picture is at an Army checkpoint in Loreto.
False I checked and there is no picture of any of my employees there.
Munoz says Olivia and Narc are using the beach for drug trafficking.
Don’t ask me, ask the Marines and the Army, they have been raiding her place for moths day and night, last time two intelligence officer were able to
see the whole landing at 3:30 AM just at her house.
He says they receive boatloads of drugs all the time at 3AM.
About every 15 to 30 days for years, we have seen the lights and movements and truck loading and the next day visit from several police cars to
collect.
No one has seen this except Munoz.
Sorry, but Intelligence officers have been there and all my employees and guests.
He made a tape but no one has seen it.
I amsure it will come up on her trial, I saw them filming only.
Narc and Olivia never get caught.
They have been caught 9 times, but always manage to not being prosecuted, the criminal trials are all with the district attorney and I mean for 6 to 8
years without going to the judge.
One time, there is a “fight” in the restaurant where Munoz
says Narc almost killed another American.
They are being prosecuted for this crime, one of their employees have been sentenced for this crime but never went to jail for it, they just forgot to
ask him to serve the jail sentence to this day.
His employees saved this guy before
Narc and Olivia could drownd him in the ocean.
They trew Jimmy Rusell in the water, they thought he was dead but came back and told the whole story to the police including that Mark hit him with a
machete and Olivia asked him to kill him, all that is on the police records.
Olivia is seen yelling “Narc, kill him”
Yes, several witnesses declared tat before the police.
Munoz says he “pounded” Narc one time when Narc confronted him.
Yes and since then he runs every time I catch him in my property.
Munoz is a “karate” champion.
I was when I was young, Mexico’s university national champion plus 18 other full contact trophies.
Like Chuck Norris.
He was Long Beach tournament champion; I was never even close to that level, the best I did in that tournament was, I believe 24th.
Recently, Olivia gets “P-nched” for selling turtle soup.
Yes and there are new witnesses who say she was selling the turtle serving dish for $100 dlls. And there were about 20 people waiting but some were
already served; when she saw the marines, she tried to dump the whole pot, but was caught by a marine and prevented her from dumping it.
Munoz knows about this before it happens.
No, I was not there, I was in La Paz, but I knew just hours after it happened and have kept a close watch on what is happening.
Looks like a “setup”.
Looks but it was not, since she was fingered by the people who sold her the Turtle, the other lady who was caught but left alone in exchange for
telling them who was buying it from her, she was caught with another full turtle pot but left alone after fingering Olivia.
Authorities were called a week before it happened.
Authorities knew where the Turtle dishes are served every year and were waiting for her, they had orders for the Hotel, the restaurant, Requeson
fisherman house and a place on San Carlos; the officers came from Sinaloa for the area raids. Olivia serve Turtle to all her special guests every
year, several of whom are my usual guests.
Olivia is released on bail.
I believe $44,000 pesos, said by Narc.
Munoz says Narc and Olivia will be arrested next week.
I believe they will be brought to trial this week or early the next one, since they cannot be released on bail, they will be arrested.
How does he know?
I know the legal procedure and we are pressing so there is no corruption in the process.
People that rent houses on the beach are moving out.
Mr. Thad Braxton and Stan Valentine and others are still there, the other 2 moved out because of Olivia’s lawsuits and they didn’t want or couldn’t
pay for their legal defense.
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ramuma53
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ArroyoTaxi and 24baja
maybe for you it is a telenovela, but turtle killings are not a telenovela, also drugs are beng shipped to America and killing kids every day and I
don't see that qualify as a telenovela.
Why dont you say something about those problems and how do you propose to solve them??????
Of course you are just kidding around.
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ramuma53
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Bajaboy
The mesager Arrowhead was not kind to me, but it is clear he don't know the hotel story or mine, but he know some old facts from Mike George and
Olivia that are true for what I know, let him say it and maybe others that I know here will have the valor to say what they know too.
Some others have told me similar sotries but asked me not to quote them here, it have to be done by themselves sooner or latter.
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This Thread has Jumped The Shark
Obviously this drama has consumed the lives of all involved, but this thread is getting a little shopworn and I think you might be losing your
audience. Watching 2 kids fighting on a playground is only entertaining to a point. Despite the drugs, sex, turtle killings, gays, machetes, raids,
military, Boxing Kangaroos, lawsuits, documents , Brad Pitt, etc... it has turned into a snoozer. All I'm suggesting is that you all take it to your
own forum, or (and I know this is going to sound CRAZY) keep this in the courts. Best of luck to all involved.
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arrowhead
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| Quote: | Originally posted by ramuma53
Bajaboy
The mesager Arrowhead was not kind to me, but it is clear he don't know the hotel story or mine, but he know some old facts from Mike George and
Olivia that are true... |
Now, now Ramon. You said on this very message thread that your wife was "Sandra Munoz", verdad? A professor in TJ, verdad? A graduate of the
University of Phoenix, verdad?
http://www.megafriends.com/profile.php?id=7482258&rid=mf...
Sabe mas el diablo por viejo que por diablo.
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interesting link arrowhead, where did you come up with that?
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