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[*] posted on 5-8-2010 at 07:31 AM


Why?
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[*] posted on 5-8-2010 at 07:53 AM


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Okay, just so I understand, you don't have a problem with illegal immigrants?


Here. Let me say it again. Read slowly now:

"Immigrants breaking the law isn't my issue. Never was.
My issue is with the actvists and foreign leaders telling the US how they will interpret or ignore the law. Since the illegals have joined the ranks of the actvists, they have turned me against any needs they may have."
Translation: We stole this land fair and square from the brown people, how dare they go and get all uppity after we were nice enough to let them sneak back in to work as maids, dishwashers, and field hands.
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[*] posted on 5-8-2010 at 07:58 AM


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Originally posted by monoloco
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Originally posted by DENNIS
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Originally posted by oxxo

Okay, just so I understand, you don't have a problem with illegal immigrants?


Here. Let me say it again. Read slowly now:

"Immigrants breaking the law isn't my issue. Never was.
My issue is with the actvists and foreign leaders telling the US how they will interpret or ignore the law. Since the illegals have joined the ranks of the actvists, they have turned me against any needs they may have."
Translation: We stole this land fair and square from the brown people, how dare they go and get all uppity after we were nice enough to let them sneak back in to work as maids, dishwashers, and field hands.


"WE", white man??????????? Speak for yourself! I was not around when that happened, and neither were the illegal immigrants that we are talking about. Ancient History!!!! What a silly comment, in my opinion.

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[*] posted on 5-8-2010 at 08:06 AM


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Originally posted by Barry A.
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Originally posted by monoloco
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Originally posted by DENNIS
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Originally posted by oxxo

Okay, just so I understand, you don't have a problem with illegal immigrants?


Here. Let me say it again. Read slowly now:

"Immigrants breaking the law isn't my issue. Never was.
My issue is with the actvists and foreign leaders telling the US how they will interpret or ignore the law. Since the illegals have joined the ranks of the actvists, they have turned me against any needs they may have."
Translation: We stole this land fair and square from the brown people, how dare they go and get all uppity after we were nice enough to let them sneak back in to work as maids, dishwashers, and field hands.


"WE", white man??????????? Speak for yourself! I was not around when that happened, and neither were the illegal immigrants that we are talking about. Ancient History!!!! What a silly comment, in my opinion.

Barry


funny how white men excuse their ancestors crimes. you claim to be a citizen and entitled to all rights of the country, but deny all responsibility for what your country and ancestors did.
you are a good example of self-centered, me-first gringo.

[Edited on 5-8-2010 by mtgoat666]
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[*] posted on 5-8-2010 at 08:14 AM


The blame game! The racist card! Class warfare! Can the liberals think of anything new? No matter what the issue it's always the same old worn-out dogma. Looks like they'd get a little bored parroting the same-o-same-o. :lol:
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[*] posted on 5-8-2010 at 08:40 AM
Round em Up and Head em out


Establish and maintain control.

Finish the Fence.

Remember November.
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[*] posted on 5-8-2010 at 08:53 AM


Just a thought....
Let's say you round up 100,000 illegals
You send them back to mexico
10% return to Baja (figures are only for example purpose)
Thats 10,000 that need jobs that aren't there
Many families without income
I figure the by-product will be a significant increase in crime rate
Also a resentment towards gringos
Aren't you sort of shooting yourselves in the foot???
Making the place you love to live and visit a much more dangerous place ??
Something to consider
Kind of a catch 22

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[*] posted on 5-8-2010 at 09:05 AM
Just Thunking ?


Well, there is no doubt that, in addition to the usual Liberal Sycophant BS regarding the Illegal Alien problem, there is represented HERE those who would put their own self-interests in Baja above the best interests of their own country.

BUT, there are also those of us who are principled enough to advocate what we think best for the U.S. regardless of how it might affect us personally as foreigners living in Mexico.
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[*] posted on 5-8-2010 at 09:41 AM


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funny how white men excuse their ancestors crimes. you claim to be a citizen and entitled to all rights of the country, but deny all responsibility for what your country and ancestors did.


We had a visit with my wife's oldest cousin who's hobby is family geneology (not a mormon). He informed us that my wife's maternal grandfather was an illegal immigrant from the Ukraine back around 1900. He said that he discovered his original visa in a box of personal papers. The visa said it was good for visitation for 6 months and then he had to return to the Ukraine. Of course he never returned and of course hid out from immigration officials in Colorado as a result. I don't think he ever became a US citizen.

There is a republican politician who is proposing that the offspring of illegal immigrants be sent back to the country of origin. :lol: I told my wife she could kiss her burro good bye because damned if I was going to visit her in the Ukraine! :P
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[*] posted on 5-8-2010 at 10:25 AM


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Translation: We stole this land fair and square from the brown people, how dare they go and get all uppity after we were nice enough to let them sneak back in to work as maids, dishwashers, and field hands.


That doesn't even come close to what I said. I know what I said and there's not a lib in the world who can tell me I said otherwise in spite of what they would wish I had said.
Can't you people make your own case for an issue? Seems your debating technique consists of misconstruing everything others say.

And please, mono, don't throw in that "We're a nation of immigrants" BS nonsense. I'm not and neither were my parents.
We're supposed to learn from history, not continually live it. What would your kids learn in History class if time stayed in the present? We have to move on.
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[*] posted on 5-8-2010 at 10:32 AM


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you are a good example of self-centered, me-first gringo.



And now, the compliments. It's hard to tell where you stand anymore, Goat. :lol:

Manifest Destiny is an unfinished project. Too bad.
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[*] posted on 5-8-2010 at 10:39 AM


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Originally posted by Timo1
Just a thought....
Let's say you round up 100,000 illegals
You send them back to mexico
10% return to Baja (figures are only for example purpose)
Thats 10,000 that need jobs that aren't there
Many families without income
I figure the by-product will be a significant increase in crime rate
Also a resentment towards gringos
Aren't you sort of shooting yourselves in the foot???
Making the place you love to live and visit a much more dangerous place ??
Something to consider
Kind of a catch 22



If they're going to blame the gringo on the street in Baja for their problems, they'll do that in the states as well.
Your rendition of the common man Mexican is one of an uncivilized reactionary.
Is that what he is?
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[*] posted on 5-8-2010 at 10:46 AM


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I told my wife she could kiss her burro good bye because damned if I was going to visit her in the Ukraine!


You had better be watching your credit cards. She may be out there buying one of these "Rebirth Wardrobes."
Has she been whistling and singing a lot lately? :lol:
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[*] posted on 5-8-2010 at 11:01 AM


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And please, mono, don't throw in that "We're a nation of immigrants" BS nonsense. I'm not and neither were my parents.


are you aboriginal? no, i think you are white euro trash immigrant stock. you are a decsendant of imigrants, still an immigrant, and duncan hunter say you should be deported.

but seems you already immigrated to a bar in mexico. how long until mexico deports you?
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[*] posted on 5-8-2010 at 11:14 AM


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you are a decsendant of imigrants, still an immigrant


Illogical. Your arguement is getting weak...gasping for air. You have no facts to hurl as weapons. Your demise is imminent along with all the gooey leeches you hang with.



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but seems you already immigrated



Yes, I did. Legally.

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Here ya go, Goatlib. I know you're unfamiliar with the concept:


le·gal (lgl)
adj.
1. Of, relating to, or concerned with law: legal papers.
2.
a. Authorized by or based on law: a legal right.
b. Established by law; statutory: the legal owner.
3. In conformity with or permitted by law: legal business operations.
4. Recognized or enforced by law rather than by equity.
5. In terms of or created by the law: a legal offense.
6. Applicable to or characteristic of attorneys or their profession.
n.
1. One that is in accord with certain rules or laws.
2. legals Investments that may be legally made by fiduciaries and certain institutions, such as savings banks and insurance companies. Also called legal list.
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[*] posted on 5-8-2010 at 12:09 PM
Abos and Aliens


The argument that ONLY Aborigines have a right to residency is absurd, of course, and no surprise coming from a Mongoloid-mind like Goatchit.

For that matter, those who "Claim" to be Aborigines can't prove it. We don't Know WHERE those came from. For sure. No records kept and Archeological finds are only "questionable" proof until a different one comes along.

They can only claim to trace their ancestry back to an approximate point and it's impossible to know if there were different Abos prior to that.

As a compromise, though, I'd be OK with shipping out anyone who can't trace their ancestry within our borders back to 1635. I'd still be around and there would be a lot more room.

Have to get a different wife, However.
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[*] posted on 5-8-2010 at 12:20 PM


I think they just found a touch of Neanderthal in mostly European blood lines. MyGawd...I feel like an entitled Thoroughbred.
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[*] posted on 5-8-2010 at 01:20 PM


oxxo, Spot on! The other liberal tactic is to pick out an isolated "sob story" and try to gather up a bunch of "weepers".
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[*] posted on 5-8-2010 at 01:55 PM


I am under the impression that we ALL originally came from Africa-------so deal with that one in justifying your rational for our conquoring ancestors, Goat, et al.

Like I said, silly stuff for sure.

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[*] posted on 5-8-2010 at 03:56 PM


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I am under the impression that we ALL originally came from Africa-------so deal with that one in justifying your rational for our conquoring ancestors, Goat, et al.



Not really, Barry. The Neanderthal strain wasn't out of Africa. African types today don't show the gene. It's all around Africa, but not within.
Leads me to believe that cotten shirts were a Neanderthal phenomona. :lol:
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