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[*] posted on 5-9-2010 at 01:34 PM


And just what else should someone be called who hangs tea bags from the brim of their hat?:biggrin:
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[*] posted on 5-9-2010 at 01:52 PM


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By your choice of terminoligy you have lost your cerdibility


According to many in Off Topic, I never had any anyway, so your revelation does not come as a shock to me. First I'm a Communist, and now I don't have any credibility, it all fits.

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[*] posted on 5-9-2010 at 02:04 PM


I don't know why you guys just come out and tell what you think of each other. Or stand on the outside looking in and see what people are thinking of you.:wow:

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[*] posted on 5-9-2010 at 02:05 PM


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And just what else should someone be called who hangs tea bags from the brim of their hat?:biggrin:


I dunno, that's food for thought!

Looking for Mr. Goodbar?

Mad Hatters?

Repressed?

Tead Off?

Sending Smoke Signals?

Tea for Two?

Earl Grey makes a good cup of tea?

TeaPee O'd?

In midlife crisis and confused?

I just don't know, but I'm sure someone is going to tell me soon, about one post down.
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[*] posted on 5-9-2010 at 02:25 PM


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Communism would be a more current and appropiate term.


According to Teabaggers, soon to be former Senator Bob Bennet, arch conservative from Utah, is a Communist. Go figure. I guess a conservative defines a Communist as someone who doesn't agree with him. By using the description so frequently and so broadly, it loses its punch. :light:


Bill Bennet not conservative enough---a Communist---wow. When we heard about it we really couldn't believe it. Cannot think of any senator much further to the right than Bennet!




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[*] posted on 5-9-2010 at 02:36 PM


Bennet was kicked to the curb because he was not a reliable conservative, good riddance to his unreliable, self-serving agenda.;)
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[*] posted on 5-9-2010 at 02:58 PM


lencho, I like those fried pig skins to, but what has that got to do with the price of...?:?::spingrin:
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[*] posted on 5-9-2010 at 03:01 PM


Hopefully some of you are beginning to see really everyone has common beleifs and values and that the suggestions on TV and in the Mass Media are part of a strategy to divide the people in order to reduce the power of the people who all benefit from recognition of the values defined in the constitution for liberty, individual rights individual property rights. And that for a long time the politicians have been compromised and they work for the banksters, they do not enforce laws to benefit individuals they only enforce laws to increasingly restrict and target all individuals.

The Tea party is no different from any other group, they have a common belief that large government and corporations have gone too far and that taxes are increasingly high while our infrastructure suffers.

The Arizona law is not being enforced in any manner which targets people unfairly, it only confirms that states are overly burdened by the Federal Governments failure to enforce laws and to actually allow criminal behavior that benefits corporations and not individuals.

Reading this thread its clear that most posters watch TV and follow the propaganda lead which divides people and reduces the power of coalitions of common people in order to benefit corporations. The divide and conquer strategy is among the oldest political tools, which is why TV propaganda fuels racism in order to divide, fuels the idea that there are people who are violent even the numbers do not show that this is the case, beyond the lack of violence there is a lack of actual terrorism, lack of al queda in numbers beyond 100 or so and a lack of a threat yet we are told the threat is huge and we all must target each other, fear each other, and turn on each other for our own safety. While in fact we must become self-sufficient, less dependent on the mommy-state and less expectant of big gov to do things for us while we should se ourselves as a local community with common values and common needs.

So please stop falling for the divide and conquer trap, see each other as common and see that divisiveness and false division is the enemy of the community which must overlook our small cultural differences and ignorance and tolerate each other in order to solve our problems.

Instead of funding war and terror, we could easily fund the things we need like schools, health, streets and utilities infrastructure. Do not fall victim to the divisive tactics and lies of the propaganda.
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[*] posted on 5-9-2010 at 03:09 PM


gnukid, You're right!:bounce:
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[*] posted on 5-9-2010 at 03:37 PM


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Communism would be a more current and appropiate term.


According to Teabaggers, soon to be former Senator Bob Bennet, arch conservative from Utah, is a Communist. Go figure. I guess a conservative defines a Communist as someone who doesn't agree with him. By using the description so frequently and so broadly, it loses its punch. :light:


Bill Bennet not conservative enough---a Communist---wow. When we heard about it we really couldn't believe it. Cannot think of any senator much further to the right than Bennet!


Nothing less than lockstep is acceptable to them.
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[*] posted on 5-9-2010 at 04:20 PM


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Communism would be a more current and appropiate term.


According to Teabaggers, soon to be former Senator Bob Bennet, arch conservative from Utah, is a Communist. Go figure. I guess a conservative defines a Communist as someone who doesn't agree with him. By using the description so frequently and so broadly, it loses its punch. :light:


Bill Bennet not conservative enough---a Communist---wow. When we heard about it we really couldn't believe it. Cannot think of any senator much further to the right than Bennet!


Nothing less than lockstep is acceptable to them.


Tea baggers in UT are going to send a freaky newbie to Wash DC. That freakie newbie will be incapable of bringing pork home to UT. People of UT will suffer as federal $$ are spent elsewhere.

Hopefully, the federal dollars lost by UT are used in CA to build/fund something that the tea baggers consider wasteful, like libraries, schools, arts.

The Utahonians have those big bigamist families, so they have social safety net of large familes,; therefore, they need fewer federal funds.

tea baggers -- they make me laugh.
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[*] posted on 5-9-2010 at 04:23 PM


Sir Goat, while I don't always agree with your argument tactics, there was quite a bit of truth contained in that last post.
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[*] posted on 5-9-2010 at 04:38 PM


the Utes of Utah are famous of throwing up the Uterine wall.



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[*] posted on 5-9-2010 at 04:54 PM


Yup. Although the mainstream media have been continually harping on the idea that this mid-term election will be devastating to the Dems, it seems to me that as time goes by, the WAY right fringe of the Republicans is setting the agenda. Fact is, that if you look at the just completed election in the UK, it sets an example on a global basis, that folks are not ready or willing to make a major change. Methinks that the ultra-right, while somehow feeling empowered at this moment, just doesn't have a clue about what the mind set is in middle America.

And while I shudder to even bring it up, I am absolutely convinced that there is a fundamental backlash against an African American president. Maybe just a little over 150 years beyond slavery, our society is just not ready.
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[*] posted on 5-9-2010 at 05:10 PM


The latest issue of Newsweek is reporting that the DHS has told the Arizona police they will deport only violent criminals, other illegals snared by the cops will be given a letter and a date to appear, which of course few will. The state can't deport people, only the feds.



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[*] posted on 5-9-2010 at 05:50 PM


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And while I shudder to even bring it up, I am absolutely convinced that there is a fundamental backlash against an African American president. Maybe just a little over 150 years beyond slavery, our society is just not ready.


Perfect example of following the media line that there is racism among people who are unhappy with the policies of the Banksters puppet Obama. There has been no example of racism only the Mass Media claim there is Racism which is unfounded and not demonstrable. In fact there are now more than 20 Black Republicans running for office and supporting Libertarianism / Tea Party critical of Obama who demonstrate there is no example of Racism in the current Populist opposition to Goldman Sachs / Federal Reserve manipulations of the market and of the WhiteHouse.

The idea that Americans who oppose the police state and oppose targeting Libertarians and those who support the rule of law or Military who support their oath to the Constitution must be doing so as Racists and Terrorists is an entirely false and absurd notion.

Howard you need to turn off the TV and go outside and get to know your neighbors, participate in your community and stop pushing a divisive false agenda promoted by the fake Left Right political paradigm.

Drop this nonsense finally and consider what are your core values? What do you believe in? Do you support the traditions of the Rule of Law, the Constitution and do you oppose those who would promote destruction of our laws, our way of life and our traditions under the guise of a false war on terror and false war on drugs.

Turn off the TV and talk to your family and friends. Read a book.



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[*] posted on 5-9-2010 at 05:54 PM


Bajahowodd, The operative word to your post is "Methinks".:lol: Of course, you toss the race card out, it's getting down to about the value of a duce. Play it, lot easier than anything original.:lol:
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[*] posted on 5-9-2010 at 06:05 PM


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Tea baggers in UT are going to send a freaky newbie to Wash DC. That freakie newbie will be incapable of bringing pork home to UT. People of UT will suffer as federal $$ are spent elsewhere.
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The General Public does not need more graft or more status quo from Washington, what would benefit the Public is less of what we are getting now.

All incumbents should be out based on their incredibly poor performance. Newbies would be as yet uncorrupted and uncompromised by back room deals. In fact a Senate that was blocked by a lack of majority would be a huge benefit by reducing the opportunity for massive theft underway and ever increasing funding of the military complex which is bankrupting each and everyone of us and bankrupting each of your retirement, medicare, social security and private investments.

The idea that anyone would benefit from voting an incumbent back into office is the most absurd and outrageous notion. We have had enough, we must prosecute the crimes committed by corrupt government and we must end the corruption which allows Goldman Sachs to control the Federal Reserve and our Government.

Turn off the TV and try reading the US History.

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[*] posted on 5-9-2010 at 06:24 PM


OMG, if anyone is blind to the race issue....

Does anyone really believe that the current president is less capable than the last one? Eight years of embarrassing speech. Eight years of allowing the wealthy to enrich themselves.

We are being played by a cabal of the unbelievably rich and privileged. If anything, the guy in the White House fails to deliver for the everyday American.

gnu- You have won the tin hat award.
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