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The Sculpin
Nomad
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Registered: 9-3-2002
Location: Back in the Saddle
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Mood: Riding into the Sunset, looking for a sunrise.
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All this hand wringing doesn't change a damn thing....I'd still throw a rock!
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Natalie Ann
Ultra Nomad
Posts: 2819
Registered: 8-22-2003
Location: Berkeley
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Shees!, Woody...
Now I have a choice of believing the first story and feeling your behavior was cowardly, or I can believe this last version and feel that I've been
manipulated and lied to. Count me as NOT a happy camper.
Nena
Be yourself, everyone else is already taken.
.....Oscar Wilde
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Phil C
Senior Nomad
Posts: 564
Registered: 3-27-2004
Location: N. San Diego County/ Loreto Centro/Lopez Mateos
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Don't think I'll be opening another Woody post....
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Baja Bernie
`Normal` Nomad Correspondent
Posts: 2962
Registered: 8-31-2003
Location: Sunset Beach
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Mood: Just dancing through life
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Now I'm not sure if my saying, "Baja is About People Helping People" is alive or not. It is not only things that are changing. Sad!
My smidgen of a claim to fame is that I have had so many really good friends. By Bernie Swaim December 2007
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Tomas Tierra
Super Nomad
Posts: 1281
Registered: 3-23-2005
Location: oxnard, ca
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Mood: Tengo Flojera
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Tomas Tierra
Looks like a nice place for a dirt nap! |
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Bruce R Leech
Elite Nomad
Posts: 6796
Registered: 9-20-2004
Location: Ensenada formerly Mulege
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Mood: A lot cooler than Mulege
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Bruce R Leech
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David K
Honored Nomad
Posts: 64855
Registered: 8-30-2002
Location: San Diego County
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Mood: Have Baja Fever
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from IBEW 569 thread
To me, for what that's worth (LOL), Woody inspired DISCUSSION. Last time I looked THIS is a discussion forum. Nothing says it HAS to be a true
story... It was just a Baja story and some of you discussed about how you would deal with that situation.
A Nomad who recently 'left us' often posted stories to get Nomads to think about situations... did you forget already?
Woody, your story was very effective in creating discussion. It brought Ferna de Tijuana out to tell his desert true story... That was worth it in my
opinion.
So, how about cutting Woody some slack?
Viva Baja EVERYONE?
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Natalie Ann
Ultra Nomad
Posts: 2819
Registered: 8-22-2003
Location: Berkeley
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| Quote: | Originally posted by David K
To me, for what that's worth (LOL), Woody inspired DISCUSSION. Last time I looked THIS is a discussion forum. Nothing says it HAS to be a true
story... It was just a Baja story and some of you discussed about how you would deal with that situation.
A Nomad who recently 'left us' often posted stories to get Nomads to think about situations... did you forget already?
Woody, your story was very effective in creating discussion. It brought Ferna de Tijuana out to tell his desert true story... That was worth it in my
opinion.
So, how about cutting Woody some slack?
Viva Baja EVERYONE? |
Frankly, I'm ready for a day without sunshine.
Be yourself, everyone else is already taken.
.....Oscar Wilde
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oladulce
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Wouldn't it have had the same impact to say " What if you came across a guy in the desert..."? Wouldn't the same
conversations have ensued?
The confession of a hoax detracts from, and diminishes the thoughts and opinions that the story brought out.
I think Lencho was on the right track with the concept of respect. Sorta feels like I got jerked around.
In contrast, fdt and Simone climbed even higher up the Integrity scale.
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Paula
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Registered: 1-5-2006
Location: Loreto
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and I'm ready for a day without Woody...
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Tomas Tierra
Super Nomad
Posts: 1281
Registered: 3-23-2005
Location: oxnard, ca
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Mood: Tengo Flojera
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Oh comon now...
I just re read the whole thing...I have been talking about tthis thread for two days.. and it did make everyone think and re think what to do in
similar situations...I mean really think, search deep...if it started with a "what if" it wouldn't have been taken so seriously..
DK got it right, it started good and constructive discussion...
BS or not (glad there is no dude in the desert!) good thread!
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JZ
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Registered: 10-3-2003
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I'll admit I felt stupid for a little bit. Just give it sometime, and you will get over it.
But I'm not really that surprised. The weird thing for me was why would he have taken a picture of the guy. I thought that was really odd/wrong.
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eetdrt88
Senior Nomad
Posts: 986
Registered: 2-20-2005
Location: Az/Ca/Baja
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didnt jr used to say...
"better than tv" quite a bit about this forum...hits the nail on the head for this thread....as far as baggin on woody,i'm kinda thinkin of doin' the
opposite like thankin him for makin me stop and think about something I definitely havent spent alot of time considering
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David K
Honored Nomad
Posts: 64855
Registered: 8-30-2002
Location: San Diego County
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Mood: Have Baja Fever
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Natalie Ann
| Quote: | Originally posted by David K
To me, for what that's worth (LOL), Woody inspired DISCUSSION. Last time I looked THIS is a discussion forum. Nothing says it HAS to be a true
story... It was just a Baja story and some of you discussed about how you would deal with that situation.
A Nomad who recently 'left us' often posted stories to get Nomads to think about situations... did you forget already?
Woody, your story was very effective in creating discussion. It brought Ferna de Tijuana out to tell his desert true story... That was worth it in my
opinion.
So, how about cutting Woody some slack?
Viva Baja EVERYONE? |
Frankly, I'm ready for a day without sunshine. |
Natalie:
How nice... not!
It is amazing that people who perscribe to the theory of openess and free press are the first to want just the oposite when their view is confronted
with another opion!
So, rather than just read various opinions... you want those that oppose to just 'go away'. That's not democracy...
Woody made us think and react... big deal. Now, if a few of us say, "that should be okay", the others here want us gone! That's sad.
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Natalie Ann
Ultra Nomad
Posts: 2819
Registered: 8-22-2003
Location: Berkeley
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| Quote: | Originally posted by David K
Natalie:
How nice... not!
It is amazing that people who perscribe to the theory of openess and free press are the first to want just the oposite when their view is confronted
with another opion!
So, rather than just read various opinions... you want those that oppose to just 'go away'. That's not democracy...
Woody made us think and react... big deal. Now, if a few of us say, "that should be okay", the others here want us gone! That's sad.
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David - How did you get to my not wanting free press and openness from my wishing you'd be quiet on just one topic just one time?
I did not say Woody's post was not "okay", nor that the discussion was not OK... I didn't mention wanting anyone "gone". You are making things up...
and that is what is sad.
As for me, I said what I meant and I meant what I said.
Period, The End.
Be yourself, everyone else is already taken.
.....Oscar Wilde
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Barry A.
Select Nomad
Posts: 10007
Registered: 11-30-2003
Location: Redding, Northern CA
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Mood: optimistic
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Natalie Ann-----
----What do you mean when you say, "I am ready for a day without sunshine"???????
That is so esoteric that I took it to mean the same thing that DK did----------Please explain what you mean by that statement------I am really
curious.
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Natalie Ann
Ultra Nomad
Posts: 2819
Registered: 8-22-2003
Location: Berkeley
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Repeat for Barry:
| Quote: | Originally posted by Natalie Ann
David.... my wishing you'd be quiet on just one topic just one time?
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Be yourself, everyone else is already taken.
.....Oscar Wilde
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David K
Honored Nomad
Posts: 64855
Registered: 8-30-2002
Location: San Diego County
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Mood: Have Baja Fever
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Sounded to me like she wants me gone (from Nomad at least)... I said nothing about Woody's post until 'you few' attacked him for writing here, and I
stood with him... I do that to others who have been unfairly treated by the few here... Long live the underdog!!
It would sure be nice if people could contribute to this forum without the rush to criticize what someone voluteered to share here...
The recent attack on Graham for killing a freaking rattlesnaske and me for posting his letters or defending him in his absense, was just so
rediculous.
No wonder so many of the older contributers don't write here much or at all, anymore. You complainers make it just not worth it...
If you don't have something nice to say, how about shutting up. Constructive criticism is fine, personal insults are unwelcome by most, I would
think...
[Edited on 3-27-2006 by David K]
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Tomas Tierra
Super Nomad
Posts: 1281
Registered: 3-23-2005
Location: oxnard, ca
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Mood: Tengo Flojera
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lllllllllllllets get ready to rrrrrrrrrrrumble.....
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Bob H
Elite Nomad
Posts: 5867
Registered: 8-19-2003
Location: San Diego
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| Quote: | Originally posted by woody in ob
next time thru the area, print out my picture and you'll see i was actually standing on the road where that trail leads downstream. |
I knew it! Look closely now. Bob H
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