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Bajabus
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MrBill as is normal for you most of the time, you are wrong....all my dishnetwork customers get NY east coast feeds....that includes my customers in
Todos Santos, Rancho Nuevo, Elias Calles, Punta pescadero, other points on the east cape road and even here in NC, USA customers get a few more
channels.
002 WCBS
004 WNBC
005 WNYW
007 WABC
009 WWOR
011 WPIX
013 WNET
241 NBC
243 CBS
245 ABC
247 FOX
249 PBS
8100 WABC
8101 WCBS
8102 WNBC
8103 WNYW
8104 WPIX
8105 WWOR
8106 WNET
8107 WLNY
8108 WXTV
8109 WNJU
8110 WFTY
8112 WLIW
8113 WNJB
8114 WNYE
8115 WMBC
8116 WRNN
8117 WFME
8118 WNYN
I sell the already configured and activated receivers in the states and in B.C.S. I also have 1.5 meter dishes in the states and in Baja although
the 1.2 meter has been working pretty good. You only get sat 119 unless you use two dishes and a switch, then you also get 110.
Contact me off the board if you want the secret or equipment.
like UPS....I always deliver.
[Edited on 31-12-2006 by Bajabus]
[Edited on 31-12-2006 by Bajabus]
"Preventive war was an invention of Hitler. Frankly I would not even listen to anyone seriously that came and talked of such a thing."
Dwight David Eisenhower
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Al G
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Someone ask me not to give away all the secrets
I don't think you were paying attention
oh well it was not my secret....
New York???what is so important here??? old times, like me....old places...sorry no importance to me...no real disrespect, but would go there if you
paid me...Hummmmm
Make an offer...I have suffered before if the price was right.
Albert G
Remember, if you haven\'t got a smile on your face and laughter in your heart, then you are just a sour old fart!....
The most precious thing we have is life, yet it has absolutely no trade-in value.
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BCSTech
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My concern about the DN NY feeds is whether they won't go spot beam just like LA did. I was totally surprised DN would do it with LA. This was shortly
after I moved some customers to LA to get those locals. I would hate to move customers to NY only to have this happen again a week later...
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Bajabus
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Alan, there is always that chance....time will tell in this business.
I mostly just enjoyed watching Mr bill pontificate and frustrate himself over the past few weeks. I could not contain myself any longer and had to let
the cat out of the bag so I could get a good jab at him. It's just too much fun to poke at folks like Bill that ride their high horses and claim to
know it all.
It's pretty much a cat and mouse game for me and I enjoy it, from first figuring out how to make INTERNET via satellite work in Baja back in 2001 when
everyone said it was impossible to the current situation. I am fairly confident that if they take NY off the conus that there will be a workaround
for our customers.
I know that you are my competition in B.C.S. but you seem to be a nice guy, are good to your customers and there is always room for good dealers and
installers that know how to support their clients. It's the quickie take the money and run guys down here that really upset me.
All it takes is 5 min online to get the feed and 4.95 per month so it's worth the effort even if it only lasts a short while. No pain No gain.
"Preventive war was an invention of Hitler. Frankly I would not even listen to anyone seriously that came and talked of such a thing."
Dwight David Eisenhower
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BCSTech
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| Quote: | | I know that you are my competition in B.C.S. but you seem to be a nice guy, are good to your customers and there is always room for good dealers and
installers that know how to support their clients. It's the quickie take the money and run guys down here that really upset me.
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Competition??? Didn't know I had any other than the pirates in CSL and SJDC  . Seriously, there is so much business here, more than enough for everyone.
More than I can handle...
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Bajabus
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No I'm not talking about the pirates like those crazy guys that were selling hacked cards. You sell Hughesnet I sell Starband. You buy from that nut
job Mel in Houston right? I hope he cuts you a good deal. He peeed me off years ago and I eventually cut him out of the loop. He took forever to
help with issues, build accounts, ship equipment etc, charged too much also. I like having control over the chain so I can maintain quality support
and not have to depend on folks like Mel.
TV is not really my main thing.....I just dabble in it for some of my good and long term customers.
There is a ton of work down there alright.....BCS been very very good to me.
Like my dad said...there is always room at the top if you are good.
"Preventive war was an invention of Hitler. Frankly I would not even listen to anyone seriously that came and talked of such a thing."
Dwight David Eisenhower
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BCSTech
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I like Mel but I don't buy everything from him. Wouldn't make sense and he knows it.
Actually, his company has been pretty responsive but I understand what you mean about control over the chain...
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Bajabus
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Well I am glad you get along with him...maybe he has mellowed out with time.
Good luck in all you do sir and happy holidays.
Max
"Preventive war was an invention of Hitler. Frankly I would not even listen to anyone seriously that came and talked of such a thing."
Dwight David Eisenhower
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BCSTech
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Same here, Max...
Alan
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MrBillM
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The Busted Nut with ALL The Secrets
There are NO Dishnetwork customers legally receiving ANY Distant Network Feeds. Period. That (and how it might be circumvented) has
been the essence of my so-called "pontification" and IS correct, despite what the Old Hippie Lout might say. Words are cheap and he
can make up whatever story he wants. I'll stand on ANY specific statements I have made as the situation became clearer and challenge him to point out
any Provable, Factual falsehoods on my part.
http://caselaw.lp.findlaw.com/data2/circs/11th/0313671p.pdf
There is the Federal Court judgement in its entirety, but OF Course, BBD "knows" the SECRETS. Kiss his ring and join the ranks of
the "Illuminati".
We already KNOW that an address within the NY local area will allow you to receive those stations. I doubt that qualifies, but within the mysterious
chamber pots that make up BBDs delusions, there is no oddity too extreme.
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Bajabus
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| Quote: | Originally posted by MrBillM
This leaves NO facility for receiving the EAST COAST Feed (s) that are still on a "conus" beam EXCEPT to find a subscriber with DirecTV who still has
the distant channel package and would be willing to add a receiver for a price. So far, the only ones I know are already serving other family members
by carrying multiple receivers on their account, but who knows, given time and tenacity I will probably find one. |
I never said it was legal did I........what makes you think your above solution is any more legal?
Seem to me the quote above by you indicates that there is no other solution to getting NY feeds.....Unless you are talking in some sort of secret
code.
"Preventive war was an invention of Hitler. Frankly I would not even listen to anyone seriously that came and talked of such a thing."
Dwight David Eisenhower
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MrBillM
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The Dyslectic Left Nut
From Busted:
" MrBill as is normal for you most of the time, you are wrong..."
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As usual, the Busted Nut decides to change direction when confronted. the Legal question has been drummed to death and is not the issue in the above
quote. As indicated, I could give a Crap about what is or isn't legal in this particular debate.
Simply substantiate your statement and indicate WHERE in this post, the FACTS that I presented as the discussion proceeded were
"wrong".
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Bajabus
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Alright I'll post it again since your eyes and memory seem to be failing......you may want to consult a doctor.
If you want I can make it bold for you...just let me know.
| Quote: | Originally posted by MrBillM
This leaves NO facility for receiving the EAST COAST Feed (s) that are still on a "conus" beam EXCEPT to find a subscriber with DirecTV who still has
the distant channel package and would be willing to add a receiver for a price. |
"Preventive war was an invention of Hitler. Frankly I would not even listen to anyone seriously that came and talked of such a thing."
Dwight David Eisenhower
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Stickers
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GENTLEMEN
Hey Bajabus & MrBill, we are not discussing politics here.
I find this thread informative and interesting so cant you guys get along?
Just think - conservatives and liberals like watching television so there you have something in common. I would bet you two have many interests in
common.
LIGHTEN UP AND ENJOY dwelling on politics is a no win situation.
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Bajabus
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Stickers, no politics here in any of my posts unless you are referencing my sig line which appears in all my posts.....Not sure why Bill has to make a
left wing conspiracy out of everything.
I am an equal opportunity capitalist even though at times I have discounted pricing to democratic party donors.
"Preventive war was an invention of Hitler. Frankly I would not even listen to anyone seriously that came and talked of such a thing."
Dwight David Eisenhower
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BCSTech
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Bottom line is, it is possible for DN customers in both BCN and BCS to receive the Networks without sharing an account with a friend or family member.
I know this and Max knows this because we both have customers set up that way.
BTW, sharing an account probably won't work for very long anyway because DN periodically audits multi-receiver accounts. Especially likely they'll
audit if one or more of the receivers in a multi receiver account doesn't "phone home" to the Mother Ship once in a while from a common US phone
number...
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bajaguy
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If I have DN, can I get San Diego stations in Ensenada???
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Bajabus
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I suspect that the local spot beam to SD would probably be wide enough to cover Ensenada but I am not positive. In general they are at least 150 to
300 miles wide.
"Preventive war was an invention of Hitler. Frankly I would not even listen to anyone seriously that came and talked of such a thing."
Dwight David Eisenhower
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MrBillM
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Repeat After ME, NO DNS, NO DNS on Dish
Are you really as DENSE as you appear ? Lacking a 2 x 4 to dent that Thick Skull, I'll try again.
Dish Network is NOW Prohibited by FEDERAL LAW from offering Distant Network Service to Anyone regardless of their
Legal Status under SHVIA and SHVERA. PERIOD. READ the Decision. IF you think you know different, you ARE as deluded as you seem. Dish can only
offer LOCAL network stations into an address that qualifies. SO. if you are a Dish Customer, you're only able to receive those feeds if your address
is local to the noted feed.
Only the NEW AAD can offer Dish Customers DISTANT Network Feeds and ONLY If they are in an "unserved" area OR via an RV Waiver. Look it up. Don't
fear the Big words. Keep a dictionary handy.
This leaves DirecTV as the ONLY facility STILL supplying Distant Network Stations to those customers qualifying
Prior to Dec 2004 OR those within an "unserved" area. They, too, will NOT provide that service if they are offering a Local Channel
Feed in that area.
Since 96 % of the U.S. is now served by Local Channel packages, that leaves darn few addresses which can qualify as "unserved" households.
BTW, regarding "phone home", since 1995, I have NEVER had more than a single receiver (total four) connected to a phone line in the U.S. and have also
never encountered any problems in that respect. Dish and Direc seem to be using the four receiver figure as a threshold. I have neighbors with
receivers in excess of that who HAVE been contacted by Dish or Direc, but even then, whatever story they came up with was accepted. When I talked to
Dish about adding a fifth reciever, they indicated they would need additional verification before doing so. I dropped the idea. I don't know about
BCS's terrritory, but up here, the number of people who have multiple receivers on their account NOT connected to any phone lines is pretty
substantial. Nobody's having any problems.
[Edited on 1-1-2007 by MrBillM]
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Bajabus
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Well you can think what you want bill. I think I'll just settle in and watch some imaginary distant network stations while you go get your
Alzheimer's medicine....LOL
Why are you mentioning what's legal or not, just up thread you said you "didn't give a crap about what's legal or not"
Any way I am really enjoying my fictitious, and only available on directv distant network stations....do you want me to record something for you and
send it? I can even send it up on an INTERNET tube if you want....ROTFLMAO!!!
"Preventive war was an invention of Hitler. Frankly I would not even listen to anyone seriously that came and talked of such a thing."
Dwight David Eisenhower
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