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Trojan
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Any gas updates from Guerrero Negro to Mulege? Leaving in the morning.
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Bruce R Leech
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still no gas in Mulege. and it is not true that all those stations are owned by the same person.
Bruce R Leech
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Bruce R Leech
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I think the gas comes from La Paz and the diesel comes from the barge. but I could be wrong I usually am.
Bruce R Leech
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Bruce R Leech
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the station is still closed here in Mulege but a small truck just puled in to Mulege with gas but it wont last long.
Bruce R Leech
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Pescador
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Well, Bruce is right. The Chap who owns the station in Santa Rosalia also owns the station in San Ignacio, and both stations in Guerro Negro. He is
also building the new station on the north end of Santa Rosalia. I asked the manager today and he cleared up about the ownership. But today we had
all the magna we wanted even though most people were filling up their tanks and an extra can or two. The discussions I heard at the gas station were
amazing and went from the idea that there was no more gas available in Mexico to the real issue which was the barge crossing. Gives us something to
focus on instead of the real issues. Santa Rosalia still did not have diesel by the way.
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shari
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Pescador is right and this "Chap" is part of a notorious family here in mid baja. They have put a sign up near our place in Asuncion as the next Pemex
in their gas empire as well...they are building lots of new stations but it is known they have problems so it should be interesting to see what
happens. I think we'll just get a barrel to be safe.
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vgabndo
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I just bought 20 gallons in <Loreto
I didn't notice any problems, but I just went by two stations.
Undoubtedly, there are people who cannot afford to give the anchor of sanity even the slightest tug. Sam Harris
"The situation is far too dire for pessimism."
Bill Kauth
Carl Sagan said, "We are a way for the cosmos to know itself."
PEACE, LOVE AND FISH TACOS
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Pescador
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I have gotten to know the workers at the Santa Rosalia Pemex pretty well over the years and I make sure to take them some fish occasionally. My
favorite story is last year when I filled up a 20 litre can and put in 27 liters and it still wasn't quite to the top, so I asked the attendant why I
could only put 20 liters in all over Baja but here I was able to squeeze in 27, and he just replied with a smile that it was probably my "Buena
Suerte".
It never ceases to amaze me that this guy can rip off everyone with inacurrate measures, which led to him being shut down for awhile last year and
come to find out he is in trouble with Pemex cause he is always a "little delinquent" with his bill to them. Guess he figures he should only have to
pay them a percentage of his earnings.
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bajarich
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Where can one fill up without using one of his stations? I usually fill at Guerro Negro and then top up at San Ignacio and then bypass Santa Rosalia.
I haven't been blatantly cheated at those stations like the one in Santa Rosalia. How about Jesus Maria and Vizcaino?
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Bob and Susan
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jesus maria installed new tanks a couple of years ago...
new pumps and filters
i buy diesel and guerrero negro is out just way too often
so i fill in jesus maria then off to mulege
vizcaino is always too busy for me too many people
but does have good service
this trip back i fuel in mulege then vizcaino AND jesus marina...just in case
then el rosario
i hope everyone is open christmas
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shari
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Dec.22 trip from Loreto to Bahia Asuncion....gas everywhere but long line up in Sta.Rosalia and no gas in San Ignacio but the truck had just pulled
in.
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abreojos
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That's good to know about the same owner for all those gas stations. Best gas stops are Mulege south of town, use San Ignacio when going to Abreojos,
Visciano and Jesus Maria, Loreto and Constition if you have to. El Cien use to have gas and was a good stop and Todo Santos. I avoid Santa Rosalia and
Guerro Negro. Now I know why!
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Phil S
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Shari. Were you referring to the Pemex station at Santa Rosalia with the long lines being the downtown one, or the new station to the north of town?
Or is the new station north of town still in construction?
Thanks.
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Bob and Susan
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there is still only one OPEN station in santa rosalia
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Pescador
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Bob is correct, there is still only one station in Santa Rosalia, which is the old Pemex just south of the main street junction. The new station by
the marina is a QUALLI certified station which means they have the neatest and newest equipment, training for attendants, etc. etc., so it will be
really interesting to see what happens to the other station when the new one opens. The people already know that the new station north of town is
owned by the same guy who owns the station now in operation.
The new Qualli station is slated to open in February
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Mango
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RE: Qualli
Not to be a nit picker.. but I'd just like to point out the term in Nahuatl is "Cualli".
cualli - he/she/it is good (pronounced coo-al-lee)
Soures:
English to Nahuatl dictionary - Fermin Herrera
and
http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Academy/3088/nahuatl.html
among others.
Sure it sounds like (qual - E) or (Qualli) when it is said; but, cat sounds like (Kat) and nobody spells it that way. 
Just a bit of triva... Mazatl is the Nahuatl word for deer, tlalli = land(but when used as a suffix only, '-tlan' is used)
Thus.. Mazatlan = Land of deer
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Mango
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| Quote: | Originally posted by lencho
| Quote: | Originally posted by Mango
Not to be a nit picker.. but I'd just like to point out the term in Nahuatl is "Cualli". |
I believe you, and that's interesting-- any idea how it's pronounced?
Whatever, it's irrelevant to me outside of the gas station context, which is where I'd like to use it correctly; how is the official term really
spelled?
--Larry |
It's pronouned (coo-al-lee) or (kwäl - lee)
I tend to say it more like, kwäl - lee.
Nahuatl is essentially the old Aztec language. It is still used by many people in rural areas of mexico; though, I generally in central Mexico.
There are many modern words in english that have their orgins in nahuatl. Most were adopted by the spanish, then later into english.
For example:
Coyotl = Coyote
Tomatl = Tomato
Chilli = Chili or Chile
etc...
Even the famous 'Chiclets' candies get their name from the nahuatl language.
The first time I heard it people speaking nahuatl in Mexico I was on a local bus in the Sierra de Puebla. I realized everyone around me was not
speaking spanish; but, speaking some other strange language. I was fascinated and curious to learn more about it. At this point I only know a few
words; but, Cualli is one of them. 
I make a habbit of learning a few words of the local indigenous languages when I travel in rural Mexico. Sometimes you can really blow somebodys mind
when walking past them down a forrest path when you say 'hello' to them in thier local language. The elders love it and it allways puts a smile on
their face. It's a great ice breaker and shows the locals that you care about their culture and customs.
In many places, the elders may only know a few words of spanish. Often times it is necessary for them to have a younger person translate for them if
they need to speak spanish with outsiders or do business in 'town'.
more information on Nahuatl here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nahuatl_language
Several dailects of the mixtec, zapotec, and mayan languages are still widely spoken in many areas of Mexico as well.
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Don Alley
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The new Pemex in Loreto, on Padre Kino, is a Qualli station.
I haven't taken a container there to measure, but the buzz around town is that they give an honest liter while the other guys do not. So far it seems
to cost less to fill the car or pickup. And business looks pretty good there.
There is some kind of brand logo on the walls at the other stations that I see around BCS, but I can't remember what it is. Friends have told me most
stations in the state are owned by the same outfit and give short liters.
But dammit, progress is coming, and the good old days of being able to fit 25 liters in a 20 liter can, and all the good stories that go with that,
will be history, just stories to tell the newbies. They'll even have card readers on the pumps and it will be just like buying gas in Oregon.
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Hook
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These big problems are now over. Why is this post still pinned to the top? Gives a false impression of the situation down there.
let it float......
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