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ELINVESTIG8R
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Registered: 11-20-2007
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OPEN MESSAGE TO THE BAD GUYS
This statement is aimed directly at you the “BAD GUY” on both sides of the border who offer violence to peace loving people which I
am one. “I KNOW YOU BAD GUYS READ THIS SITE” so just know whether in the U.S. or Mexico and if you are stupid enough to offer
violence to me personally I make you this solemn promise. I will use whatever force is necessary to neutralize you and the situation even if it causes
your death or mine. One or both of us will not be going home. This vow goes for dirty cops and/or scumbags in general who confront me to do harm to
me.
YOU DO NOT SCARE ME. Is this message clear enough? I hope so.
MENSAJE A LOS CRIMINALES
Esta declaración está dirigido directamente a usted, “EL CRIMINAL” en los dos lados de la frontera que ofrezcan violencia a la gente
de paz quienes soy yo. “SÉ QUE USTDES CRIMINALES LEE ESTE SITIO” y quiero que saben que si aquí en los Estados Unidos (El Otro Lado)
o en México si usted esta bastante estúpido de ofrecerme violencia a mi personalmente les hago esta promesa solemne. Utilizaré cualquier fuerza que es
necesaria para neutralizarle a usted y la situación aunque ése causa su muerte o el mío. Uno de nosotros o los dos no hiramos a la casa ese día. Este
juramento va a los policías corruptos y a los criminales en general quiénes me enfrentan para hacer daño a mí sin había hecho algo a usted.
“USTEDES NO ME ASUSTAN” ¿Es este mensaje bastante claro? Espero que si.
[Edited on 1-11-2008 by ELINVESTI8]
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rpleger
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I always did avoid the toll road at night.
I leave Newport Beach at 9am and arrive at El Rosaro that evening to stay the night at the Catus before driving to Mulegé the next morning.
No, no need to change my driving routine.
Richard on the Hill
*ABROAD*, adj. At war with savages and idiots. To be a Frenchman abroad is to
be miserable; to be an American abroad is to make others miserable.
-- Ambrose Bierce, _The Enlarged Devil\'s Dictionary_
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DENNIS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by rpleger
I always did avoid the toll road at night.
No, no need to change my driving routine. |
Isn't that what it's all about? Staying off the roads at night?
Has any of this hijacking crap happened in broad daylite? I don't recall that it has.
I think some have been thoroughly terrorized by the recent events and well they should be but, it has grown to unrealistic proportions. The toll
road is, or has been, safe from hijackers during daylite hours as far as I can recall. The forces of evil, being one and the same and different,
have shared the hunting grounds. Hijackers at night...uniformed police during the day.
I don't see a large risk in day travel on the toll road. Travel in convoy to have your witnesses and don't pay mordida. Surround the police with
cameras and microphones. It seems to have some effect.
Above all, if you break a law, you're guilty. If you didn't, you're not. Act accordingly.
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bufeo
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Registered: 11-16-2003
Location: Santa Fe New Mexico
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I didn't vote, but to answer the question: Has recent border crime altered your trips to Baja?
No.
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Hook
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Registered: 3-13-2004
Location: Sonora
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Dennis, in the past before the hijackings, there was really no reason to avoid the toll road at night. No cattle, no potholes, generally and no
oncoming traffic to swerve into your lane.
The toll road was a different story than driving the rest of the peninsula at night to me.
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bajadedom
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Registered: 12-12-2007
Location: Oregon
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Mood: Ready for a change of latitude...
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| Quote: | Originally posted by ELINVESTI8
This statement is aimed directly at you the “BAD GUY” on both sides of the border who offer violence to peace loving people which I
am one. “I KNOW YOU BAD GUYS READ THIS SITE” so just know whether in the U.S. or Mexico and if you are stupid enough to offer
violence to me personally I make you this solemn promise. I will use whatever force is necessary to neutralize you and the situation even if it causes
your death or mine. One or both of us will not be going home. This vow goes for dirty cops and/or scumbags in general who confront me to do harm to
me.
YOU DO NOT SCARE ME. Is this message clear enough? I hope so. |
All worried about the trip south - get in touch w/El
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bajalid
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Registered: 12-19-2007
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:hi everyone,I just got back from poptla,had no trouble or fear and yes I will still drive to baja until I am a old lady! I have worked in the most
chitty area of los angeles as a teleco tech and every day there is a shooting or a car hijacked dont get me wrong I use common sense and my street
smarts
Driving down to cabo is a pleasure!
I am NOT SCARED
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David K
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Registered: 8-30-2002
Location: San Diego County
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| Quote: | Originally posted by bajalid
:...I will still drive to baja until I am a old lady! I have worked in the most chitty area of los angeles... |
You don't talk like a lady!  
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BajaDanD
Senior Nomad
Posts: 745
Registered: 8-30-2003
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Lack of $$$$$$ has altered my trips to BAJA
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DENNIS
Platinum Nomad
Posts: 29510
Registered: 9-2-2006
Location: Punta Banda
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| Quote: | Originally posted by David K
You don't talk like a lady! |
I think she does. A lady who commands respect. She has mine.
I know you were joking, David.
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Al G
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Posts: 2647
Registered: 12-19-2004
Location: Todos Santos/Full time for now...
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| Quote: | Originally posted by ELINVESTI8
This statement is aimed directly at you the “BAD GUY” on both sides of the border who offer violence to peace loving people which I
am one. “I KNOW YOU BAD GUYS READ THIS SITE” so just know whether in the U.S. or Mexico and if you are stupid enough to offer
violence to me personally I make you this solemn promise. I will use whatever force is necessary to neutralize you and the situation even if it causes
your death or mine. One or both of us will not be going home. This vow goes for dirty cops and/or scumbags in general who confront me to do harm to
me.
YOU DO NOT SCARE ME. Is this message clear enough? I hope so. |
Well they do scare me...for the same reason you talk about.
I know for a fact if push comes to shove...I will not pay ever.
If I do something wrong...I will go in and pay to a judge. If they think they can make me roll over like Minnow...they don't know me and that is what
scares me...
Albert G
Remember, if you haven\'t got a smile on your face and laughter in your heart, then you are just a sour old fart!....
The most precious thing we have is life, yet it has absolutely no trade-in value.
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The Gull
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Registered: 8-28-2003
Location: Rancho Descanso, BCN
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Gypsy Jan
Travel in daylight or early evening, i.e., when locals are going to work, taking kids to school and/or returning home to family.
When you park, keep the vehicle in sight or leave a fellow travel partner in the vehicle.
Travel with dog(s) - this does not cancel the above rule.
Be aware of your surroundings - when visiting an ATM, look around and be alert, and block any one's view of what you are doing.
Don't open a wallet and flash cash in public no matter where you are. Figure out what your puchase is going to cost and separate that amount for the
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Sounds like the common sense I use in my travels in Irvine.
�I won\'t insult your intelligence by suggesting that you really believe what you just said.� William F. Buckley, Jr.
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Debra
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Registered: 10-31-2002
Location: Port Orchard Wa./Bahia de Los Angeles BC
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Dennis: In answer to your question "has any of this happened in daylight hours" I believe that Raquel (of "Raquel and Larry's) was murdered about
9:30am..........that was near Catavina
Mean people suck!
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Ken Cooke
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Location: Riverside, CA
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Maybe it would make a difference if everyone traded in their nice vehicles and kept their expensive toy boxes at home. Go out and get a 1982 Toyota
Corolla with missing hubcaps to show you REALLY DON'T HAVE A POT TO pee IN, and maybe this would make all of the difference.
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Bajafun777
Super Nomad
Posts: 1103
Registered: 9-13-2006
Location: Rosarito & California
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Mood: Enjoying Life with Wife In Mexico, Easy on The Easy
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I still travel into Baja but do not get down through T.J. but only 3 or 4 times a year lately. I do travel into Mexicali almost once or twice every
two weeks and have not had any problems. I know my way around Mexicali and think "yes" think I know some people that can help me if I were to get
into a fix. I like others worry more about my wife or friends that may go down with me and if trouble came up their safety is not worth the stress.
I do not know what type of reaction I would do if a gun was being put to my wife's head and mine like tomorrow will never happen again. Like some I
have had experiences in some situations like this but as we get older our minds sometimes gets our bodies into trouble. We just do not move as fast
or as balanced like we did when younger, yes the truth hurts. Make no doubt like a few said here, if bad dudes came after me I would do my best to
get away. Further, I would do whatever I could do to prevent my wife and me being put to our knees and guns to our heads like no tomorrow for us,
just a very bad thought to think about. Not even Baja is worth such a price. Later--------------------------- bajafun777
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Pescador
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Registered: 10-17-2002
Location: Baja California Sur
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Just an idea, but what if Nomads were to start seriously carrying a camera and anytime they were stopped by the "police" they record the interaction
on their camera? I know that will not work for a highjacking, but for the petty shake down routine of pay me now for your ticket, it might have an
impact. Especially if those pictures were shared with the police captain and others.
The newest twist to the shakedown that I have heard twice now is they are saying yes you can go to the Justicia and see a judge, but we are going to
call a tow-truck and impound your vehicle while we do that.
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Natalie Ann
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Location: Berkeley
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I have always been a passenger when crossing the border. I have never felt comfortable driving in Baja at night. As I frequently travel alone and by
bus, I have learned to be relaxed but vigilant to my personal safety.
I do not think this recent crime wave will change my trips to Baja... for I could not live without her.
Oh yeah, one exception... a couple of times I have crossed thanks to an excellent guide and friend, our own Fernando de Tijuana/fdt. I have recently
received word that he is having qualms about the stretch of road between the San Diego airport and the border. If Ferna chickens out on me, I'll have
to go back to begging rides from my son - and he is much more likely to be concerned about the crime. Might have to start walking across. 
Nena
Be yourself, everyone else is already taken.
.....Oscar Wilde
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BajaBad
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My son and I have been planning a trip for five months or so now, to drive from TJ to Cabo, camping on the way, bringing a new quad or dune buggy for
him (years of savings) me working taking photos & updating travel section of Viva La Baja! relocation guide.
Now there is no way I would camp with him, except on Conception Bay with other campers around and other places further south, and the trip maynow be
delayed until next fall, when there - hopefully - is a better grasp of the situation by police, etc. If a ton more crime occurs, I would re-think the
trip again, maybe flying into Loreto and avoiding Northern Baja altogether.
All in all, just peees me off.  I am not one who likes to be 'afraid' of an
adventure. We got stuck a month and a half ago or so at the Tijuana airport for 12 hours, took the bus to the American (forgot name) shopping mall
near-by for food and a movie. Returned to the airport at night, and was careful, but not afraid.
As a side-note (and do not know if this has been posted recently, I can not keep up with BajaNomad on a daily basis!) , can not see any travel
warnings or safety alerts on any U.S. consulate or the travel.state.gov websites... Canada has not posted any new info, nor has NZ, Australia, etc.
BajaBad
Viva La Baja! Relocation Guide
http://www.vivalabaja.com
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Hook
Elite Nomad
Posts: 9006
Registered: 3-13-2004
Location: Sonora
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| Quote: | Originally posted by The Gull
| Quote: | Originally posted by Gypsy Jan
Travel in daylight or early evening, i.e., when locals are going to work, taking kids to school and/or returning home to family.
When you park, keep the vehicle in sight or leave a fellow travel partner in the vehicle.
Travel with dog(s) - this does not cancel the above rule.
Be aware of your surroundings - when visiting an ATM, look around and be alert, and block any one's view of what you are doing.
Don't open a wallet and flash cash in public no matter where you are. Figure out what your puchase is going to cost and separate that amount for the
transaction. |
Sounds like the common sense I use in my travels in Irvine. |
Yeah, right, Gull. 
http://www.ci.irvine.ca.us/civica/press/display.asp?layout=1...
Nothing sadder than a caged bird, flailing about.
Facts aren't your strong suit, I take it............
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fdt
Ultra Nomad
Posts: 4059
Registered: 9-7-2003
Location: Tijuana, Baja California
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Mood: Yeah, what if it all goes right
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Natalie Ann
I have recently received word that he is having qualms about the stretch of road between the San Diego airport and the border. Nena
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The most dangerous part of the entire trip 
A well informed Baja California traveler is a smart Baja California traveler!
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