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Udo
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| Quote: | Originally posted by loki
He is talking about the Serinidad and its owner,Don Johnson who had it taken over by the local eijdo who claimed the land in spite of the fact Don had
bought the land from the Mexican government. It took years and lots of money to make it right and the eijdo still claim the hotel and all the land on
the south side of the river including the Oasis trailer Park in question here. |
| Quote: | | I am sure there are Nomads who know this past situation more than I do, but I seem to recall that Don Johnson was married to a Mexican lady in whose
name the title of the property was in (the word is recall, not quote a source, because I don't remember the source which could have been the San Diego
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Udo
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loki
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| Quote: | Originally posted by udowinkler
| Quote: | Originally posted by loki
He is talking about the Serinidad and its owner,Don Johnson who had it taken over by the local eijdo who claimed the land in spite of the fact Don had
bought the land from the Mexican government. It took years and lots of money to make it right and the eijdo still claim the hotel and all the land on
the south side of the river including the Oasis trailer Park in question here. |
| Quote: | | I am sure there are Nomads who know this past situation more than I do, but I seem to recall that Don Johnson was married to a Mexican lady in whose
name the title of the property was in (the word is recall, not quote a source, because I don't remember the source which could have been the San Diego
Union). |
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You are correct. His wife is named Nancy and is indeed a Mexican national which did not seem to matter in this situation.
I have spoken to Don about this problem and he tells me although this is in the past. It could rear its head again depending on who gets elected to
the head of the local eijdo.
I want the truth. Do not give me B$
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awfulart
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When buying Real Estate anywhere one must be careful. We seem to be haveing some fraud problems with Real Estate in this country. It always pay to
be careful and due diligence is first order of the day.There are many things to consider when buying in Mexico, Is it or was it Ejido land? Is the
propery free and clear? Potential development? Leased, titled, or ? If leased, what if the owner sells or dies. Maximum 10 year lease and no renewal
guarantee. Were not some Americanos evicted from a beach just south of Mulege. "Buyer beware" and again use due diligence. There are no guarantees in
life particularly in Mexico.
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loki
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Art,
The beach just south of Mulege is called Santispac and was owned by the Bonfil eijdo. There were many folks who had lived on this beach for many years
and enjoyed its two restaurants,Rays Place which burned down two years ago and Annas which is still a going concern.
The beach was a cash cow for the many Presidents of that eijdo who used to charge for as many as 5 years of rent ahead of time prepaid and put the
money in their pocket.
This ended several years ago when property values started to rise in the bay area and after several near sales,the beach was sold to a Mexican group
which was rumored to include the current Governor of Baja Sur.
All of the residents were not charged for their last 6 months of residence and were asked to leave on a certain date. The eijdo dismantled most if not
all of the palapas on the beach.
There were 3 permanent homes on the north end of the beach of which 2 were owned by americans. The problem was that these folks had built these homes
with a 35 year prepaid lease with the eijdo which were not legal. It is my understanding that these homeowners negotiated a purchase of the land under
their homes for a considerable amount of money . Its a perfect example of why its important to make sure you are on solid ground when it comes to the
amount of money you risk on investment in Baja.
[Edited on 8-10-2008 by loki]
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Osprey
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Art, you have a real flair for stating the obvious. Did any of you cautious types ever buy land or improved land in the U.S. for cash? If so did you
rush to your nearest Title Insururor for coverage? I bet not. Was the land ever owned by a foreign country? Then the Indians, then scitty eight others
-- did you care? No, cause you got a deed, dude. It's all in the deed -- thousands of hotel resorts, businesses, expat home holders in Mexico have
valid deeds on property that once was Mexican land, Grant Land, Rural land, agri land, Indian land. Now the Mexican owners perfect their ownership,
get a deed, sell the land. Honest to God, so help me. Look around -- there are about 600,000 U.S. expats here with homes, zerbillions of big
world-known resorts. The deeds are in Mexico City, the people who enjoy the property are here ---- look around. How's that for obvious.
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Cypress
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Obvious ownership?  Untill some remote relative with a lawyer and a
claim that was somehow overlooked, but can be resolved for a small fee.
And on and on.
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awfulart
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Received the following e mail for what reason I am not sure since all I said was be careful when buying in Mexico just like you should be careful
about buying in the U.S. I don't think I ever implied you should not buy, just be careful. I don't name call or make threats but I guess some feel
they must.
This e mail was from someone calling themselves Tom Prox. I think he meant threat but said said thread. I guess he is not a looner or is that loner?
Quote: stop posting your chit in BN > take this as a thread! infact it is more, it is a warning.
Your posts are absolutely besides any truth. You are a big bullchiter without any knowledge.
There are others I send a similar warning > so take it serious as I am not a looner here.
We in Mulege do not let some marooons place any chit on this town.
If you own a property (maybe in Burro???) take this very serious.
We don't need those gringos like you down here!
Good Americans are always welcome, but not bullchiters kinda like you.
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BajaGringo
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Art, sounds like a very bad attempt to just get a reaction out of you. I guess trolling has gone to email now?
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loki
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| Quote: | Originally posted by awfulart
Received the following e mail for what reason I am not sure since all I said was be careful when buying in Mexico just like you should be careful
about buying in the U.S. I don't think I ever implied you should not buy, just be careful. I don't name call or make threats but I guess some feel
they must.
This e mail was from someone calling themselves Tom Prox. I think he meant threat but said said thread. I guess he is not a looner or is that loner?
Quote: stop posting your sh-t in BN > take this as a thread! infact it is more, it is a warning.
Your posts are absolutely besides any truth. You are a big bullchiter without any knowledge.
There are others I send a similar warning > so take it serious as I am not a looner here.
We in Mulege do not let some marooons place any sh-t on this town.
If you own a property (maybe in Burro???) take this very serious.
We don't need those gringos like you down here!
Good Americans are always welcome, but not bullchiters kinda like you. |
There are laws about sending threats over the internet if it originated from the USA. I would forward it to your local US law enforcement office. They
can deal with it really fast.
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Osprey
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Grover, I don't see one of those emoticons around here. I have to have one. It will be my first one. Says everything I've always wanted to say but
didn't have the words.
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BajaWarrior
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| Quote: | Originally posted by awfulart
When buying Real Estate anywhere one must be careful. We seem to be haveing some fraud problems with Real Estate in this country. It always pay to
be careful and due diligence is first order of the day.There are many things to consider when buying in Mexico, Is it or was it Ejido land? Is the
propery free and clear? Potential development? Leased, titled, or ? If leased, what if the owner sells or dies. Maximum 10 year lease and no renewal
guarantee. Were not some Americanos evicted from a beach just south of Mulege. "Buyer beware" and again use due diligence. There are no guarantees in
life particularly in Mexico. |
How would one absolutely know for certain if the land was of clear title, there have been plenty of buyers in Baja that have bought nothing but
useless paper. Who can be trusted?
Haven't had a bad trip yet....
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Paladin
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Quote: stop posting your sh-t in BN > take this as a thread! infact it is more, it is a warning.
Your posts are absolutely besides any truth. You are a big bullchiter without any knowledge.
There are others I send a similar warning > so take it serious as I am not a looner here.
We in Mulege do not let some marooons place any sh-t on this town.
If you own a property (maybe in Burro???) take this very serious.
We don't need those gringos like you down here!
Good Americans are always welcome, but not bullchiters kinda like you. |
Can someone please give me the Rules for being a good American???
I'd would like to visit Mulege again.
Thanks
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