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woody with a view
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we use "upstream or downstream" to mean what bajanutz meant. when you get to the coast/stream/intersection you go up (north) or downstream (south). if
you're faced with an east/west decision i suggest having a beer!!!!
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Sharksbaja
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Wait just a cotton pickin' minute.
"Northern & Southern Hemispheres?"
No objections from half the planet? Oh wait south is now up. Up is actually down?
Yes, I remember that scene from Pirates of the Carribean
Ok who's fooling who?
DON\'T SQUINT! Give yer eyes a break!
Try holding down [control] key and toggle the [+ and -] keys
Viva Mulege!
Nomads\' Sunsets
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BajaNuts
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but we have a small family dispute going as to what is "UP"-stream and what is "DOWN"- stream.
so, do I understand Woody that both are correct depending on if you are in the northern hemisphere or southern hemisphere?
In the northern hemisphere, when you are at the mouth of the river and you travel to it's headwaters you are going UPstream.
If you are in the southern hempisphere (SIC intentional... )and you travel
from the mouth of the river to it's headwaters you are traveling DOWNstream???
or does that mean if you are in the northern hemisphere and the river's mouth is in the north and the headwaters are in the south, you're traveling
Downstream???
[Edited on 10-19-2009 by BajaNuts]
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woody with a view
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location, location, location.....
i stand by my 'splanation!
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Bajahowodd
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irregardless
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Cyanide41
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Bajahowodd
I was thinking maybe the water just dropped straight down.
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That's why there are so few flush toilets in countries on the equator.
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fdt
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| Quote: | Originally posted by arrowhead
That does not change the facts on the ground: a black man, an American citizen, was dragged out of the office by two placas. Why don't you accept the
realities instead of trying to create your own reality?
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Were does it say he is black?
Were does it say he was dragged away by two placas?
Accept realities? Y suggest you learn to read first.
| Quote: | Originally posted by arrowhead
And another thing Fernando. I watched your videos a few weeks ago. About 5% to 10% of the words in your translations are misspelled.
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Does this mean you won't be purchasing any?
Tu amigo
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toneart
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Alice: Oh, no, no. I was just wondering if you could help me find my way.
Cheshire Cat: Well that depends on where you want to get to.
Alice: Oh, it really doesn't matter, as long as...
Cheshire Cat: Then it really doesn't matter which way you go.  
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arrowhead
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| Quote: | Originally posted by fdt
Were does it say he is black?
Were does it say he was dragged away by two placas?
Accept realities? Y suggest you learn to read first.
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Oh for crissake Fernando! YOU read the article and translated it. Did you look at the picture in the article? It is a picture of two
uniformed men, each holding the shoulder of a black man with his legs splayed out. If that isn't enough for you, you can Google his name, his picture
is everywhere.
Get a clue, if you're the best that Mexico has to offer, God save Mexico.
No soy por ni contra apatía.
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DianaT
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| Quote: | Originally posted by toneart
Alice: Oh, no, no. I was just wondering if you could help me find my way.
Cheshire Cat: Well that depends on where you want to get to.
Alice: Oh, it really doesn't matter, as long as...
Cheshire Cat: Then it really doesn't matter which way you go. |
OK, I now believe that perhaps we can agree that none of us has a clue as to which way we are going, or where up and down is, or if it even exists,
here is another one to think about.
Forgive the awful drawing---it is supposed to be a pool table.
When the pool stick hits ball A, ball A hits ball B which then hits the side of the table and continues to hit ball C. Ball C now falls into the
corner pocket maked D.
Western logic teaches us that this is a simple cause and effect reaction, but is it? Are there other possibilities as to why Ball C went into the
corner pocket?
This is done with all due credit to Alan Watts, and personally I find all this hijacking far more positive than the Mexico bashing.
| Quote: | Originally posted by DENNIS
| Quote: | Originally posted by DianaT
One can quickly become a speck of insignificance----
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One is that at birth. The decent quest becomes a way to be more than the speck.
A Buddhist reference would be a stone. One that would be used for building. |
A good one, Dennis----and perhaps it does make a difference.
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DENNIS
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Watts would need to draw on a higher knowledge than his doctorate of divinity could supply if he ever planned on sinking that "C" ball in the "D"
pocket at that angle.
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toneart
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| Quote: | Originally posted by DianaT
| Quote: | Originally posted by toneart
Alice: Oh, no, no. I was just wondering if you could help me find my way.
Cheshire Cat: Well that depends on where you want to get to.
Alice: Oh, it really doesn't matter, as long as...
Cheshire Cat: Then it really doesn't matter which way you go. |
OK, I now believe that perhaps we can agree that none of us has a clue as to which way we are going, or where up and down is, or if it even exists,
here is another one to think about.
Forgive the awful drawing---it is supposed to be a pool table.
When the pool stick hits ball A, ball A hits ball B which then hits the side of the table and continues to hit ball C. Ball C now falls into the
corner pocket maked D.
Western logic teaches us that this is a simple cause and effect reaction, but is it? Are there other possibilities as to why Ball C went into the
corner pocket?
This is done with all due credit to Alan Watts, and personally I find all this hijacking far more positive than the Mexico bashing.
| Quote: | Originally posted by DENNIS
| Quote: | Originally posted by DianaT
One can quickly become a speck of insignificance----
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One is that at birth. The decent quest becomes a way to be more than the speck.
A Buddhist reference would be a stone. One that would be used for building. |
A good one, Dennis----and perhaps it does make a difference. |
Ahhhh Sooooooo! A real Zen koan. Diane, the simple answer is
yes!  I could be backhanded across the room by the Zen Master if
I were to reveal the actual answer. 
Alan Watts had a houseboat in Sausalito at the same time I did. We had many a rap into the early morning hours.
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DENNIS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by toneart
Alan Watts had a houseboat in Sausalito at the same time I did. We had many a rap into the early morning hours. |
If Ol' Al used the same logic to navigate his boat as he used to sink ball "C", he was probably convinced he was safe in the snug harbor of Newport
Beach.
It does no good to reason or argue with a Buddhist. If they can hear one hand clapping, they can justify anything they do or never thought of doing.
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DianaT
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| Quote: | Originally posted by toneart
Alan Watts had a houseboat in Sausalito at the same time I did. We had many a rap into the early morning hours. |
Oh, that had to be really GREAT----had to be wonderful conversations----as a young person, his writings really introduced me to a different way of
thinking and on path of seeking more.
And decades later, I loved using things like this in the classroom in the prisons and in my high school classes----students often said I did it to
drive them crazy. 
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DianaT
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| Quote: | Originally posted by DENNIS
It does no good to reason or argue with a Buddhist. If they can hear one hand clapping, they can justify anything they do or never thought of doing.
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Maybe it just does no good to argue when using
Western created logic. There may be another path that may or may not reach the truth. 
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DENNIS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by DianaT
students often said I did it to drive them crazy.
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Had they but known that you did it to keep them crazy, their world would have expanded. 
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toneart
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| Quote: | Originally posted by DianaT
----students often said I did it to drive them crazy.
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Shhhhhh! Your rapt student, Dennis, is in the classroom.
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He never stopped looking
He didn't let his daughter go. Mexicalli Authorities failed to notify the American embassy that an american had been killed on their soil. Then the
embassy would have notified Mr. Hunt. Unfortunately they didn't and by the time he found out about his wife's death The Desarrollo Integral de la
Familia (DIF) had already given custody to the Hernandez family (his wifes family) and they'd already left for Culiacán, Sinoloa. In 2007 he went to
Culiacánto speak to Jesús Alberto Aguilar Padilla and ask for intervention but was rebuffed. He then took his case to the FBI office in San Diego
Special Agent Eric Drickerson refered him to Assistant Legal Attaché Stephen Kling in Guadalajara. Special Agent Kling declined to intervene in the
matter so Mr. Hunt went back to the FBI office in San Diego this time to talk to the San Diego Special Agent in Charge(SAC) Keith Slotter and was
completely rebuffed. Mr. Hunt then took his case to the State Department and William Herzog was assigned to his case. Herzog gave him the run around
with paperwork causing Mr. Hunt much duress. He never stopped trying to get his daughter, he's just had many doors closed to him.
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toneart
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This sounds like a very tragic and highly emotionally charged situation. It is also a very personal situation that shouldn't be tried here in the
BajaNomad Court of entertainment and casual opinion.
We are not in a position to judge, nor should we want to be.
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