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wessongroup
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Riom
| Quote: | Originally posted by Cypress
Why would you make it hard for someone to come and spend money in your country?
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Although the FM3 process can seem a bit archaic, it's one of the simplest and cheapest residence permits of its type in the world, with the lowest
requirements.
A non-resident buying a house in the USA or Canada is not allowed to live in it full time, period. Even if they are retired. Doesn't matter how much
they pay (there are limited exceptions for those who want to start a business, although the paperwork - and costs - for those makes an FM-3 look like
a library card application).
You would think the US and Canada would want people to "come and spend money in their country" but no, they don't. Same applies to most countries,
not just western countries (for example, a visa similar to the FM3 for Malaysia requires a $3k monthly income plus assets). Most countries already
have enough people, and don't want foreigners driving up house prices.
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thank you
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Cypress
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Riom, You're right.
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DianaT
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| Quote: | Originally posted by baja829
Just did my yesterday in San Felipe - quick and easy. Go to www.retirement-mexicomio.blogspot.com for info. Documentation, cost, etc. And yes, they want the Bank letter, but the interview questions
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Interesting site. However, the requirements he had there are not what our Guerrero Negro office requested----we are supposed to pick ours up at the
end of the week or next week so we will see.
Once they have everything consistent from one office to the next, the process should be easy-----
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MitchMan
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Just a few questions for absolute clarification.
Kate/Morgaine7: you previously gave a web address for the "form" that we need to complete: http://setram.inami.gob.mx:8080/solicitudes-web/estancia.htm... is this the same form that is used for renewal of an FM3 or is it
specifically and only for an FM2? If this URL is only for FM2 renewal, what would be the URL for the FM3 renewal form?
Baja829: You mentioned a requirement for a letter from the bank necessary as part of the documents submitted for an FM3 renewal . Are you
specifically referring only to a Mexican bank in Baja or any bank (including an American bank in the USA) that shows adequate deposits sufficient for
the income requirements for the FM3? Also, what should this letter say, specifically?
BTW, the only instance of a Nomad saying that holders of FM2 and FM3 visas will also have to obtain and pay for the $22 USD FMM each and every time
said holders will be entering Mexico is Riom by way of the URL to the article in San Felipe Life at http://bit.ly/aNGa38
Personally I do not think the holders of either an FM2 or FM3 will need to obtain an FMM for each entry to Mexico. Doesn't make sense to me to get
two visas. It was a known fact that prior to 5/1/10, having an FM3 and an FMT simultaneously was anathema. Besides, when I asked the INM guy in La
Paz about that specifically, he said an FMM was not at all required for an FM3 holder. Not that I believe any one Mexican official about anything
until I hear several other first hand corroborations.
Also, I measured an infantil sized image and it is a portrait aspect ratio of 3cm x 2.5cm. This might be of interest for those of you who are able to
provide your own photos. I am going to do my own and I will duplicate the portion of the head, neck and space around the head that is currently in my
FM3 photo to the extent I can. Hope it passes.
[Edited on 6-9-2010 by MitchMan]
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DianaT
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| Quote: | Originally posted by MitchMan
Just a few questions for absolute clarification.
Kate/Morgaine7: you previously gave a web address for the "form" that we need to complete: http://setram.inami.gob.mx:8080/solicitudes-web/estancia.htm... is this the same form that is used for renewal of an FM3 or is it
specifically and only for an FM2? If this URL is only for FM2 renewal, what would be the URL for the FM3 renewal form?
Baja829: You mentioned a requirement for a letter from the bank necessary as part of the documents submitted for an FM3 renewal . Are you
specifically referring only to a Mexican bank in Baja or any bank (including an American bank in the USA) that shows adequate deposits sufficient for
the income requirements for the FM3? Also, what should this letter say, specifically?
BTW, the only instance of a Nomad saying that holders of FM2 and FM3 visas will also have to obtain and pay for the $22 USD FMM each and every time
said holders will be entering Mexico is Riom by way of the URL to the article in San Felipe Life at http://bit.ly/aNGa38
Personally I do not think the holders of either an FM2 or FM3 will need to obtain an FMM for each entry to Mexico. Doesn't make sense to me to get
two visas. It was a known fact that prior to 5/1/10, having an FM3 and an FMT simultaneously was anathema. Besides, when I asked the INM guy in La
Paz about that specifically, he said an FMM was not at all required for an FM3 holder. Not that I believe any one Mexican official about anything
until I hear several other first hand corroborations.
Also, I measured an infantil sized image and it is a portrait aspect ratio of 3cm x 2.5cm. This might be of interest for those of you who are able to
provide your own photos. I am going to do my own and I will duplicate the portion of the head, neck and space around the head that is currently in my
FM3 photo to the extent I can. Hope it passes.
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The link to the form---used it also for our FM3 and told it was the correct one.
Photos, be sure to see if your office wants black and white or color---seems to be different at different offices.
FMM---one of the immigration ladies at the GN office said that yes, in the future that is the intention, but they also said they are still figuring
everything out.
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MitchMan
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DianeT: another Scottish proverb I saw commonly at Scottish fairs in OC: "If it's na' Scot, it's crap."
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Riom
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| Quote: | Originally posted by MitchMan
BTW, the only instance of a Nomad saying that holders of FM2 and FM3 visas will also have to obtain and pay for the $22 USD FMM each and every time
said holders will be entering Mexico is Riom by way of the URL to the article in San Felipe Life at http://bit.ly/aNGa38
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I do say there that the fee is NOT like to apply to FM2/3 holders. What seems to be happening in practice (by air) is that FM3 holders get the FMM
form when they exit (in other words, it's to record the time out of Mexico, rather than time in). For those that have received the FMM form when
flying (originating in Mexico), there is no fee charged is there?
And by land, as usual, the "rules" don't apply yet or are not enforced.
The FMM form is not a visa. For tourists, it's an entry permit showing the time permitted in the country (identical to a US I-94). For temporary
residents (FM2), provisional residents (FM2) and immigrants it appears to just be being used to track their movements (probably mainly for tax).
And again, this doesn't seem to be happening at land borders, yet. Still, as I wrote in the FMT thread: http://forums.bajanomad.com/viewthread.php?tid=46105#pid5208... - this is strongly based on the US I-94 form (which is a real nuisance at land
borders) and just because it's impractical to enforce or use that doesn't mean it's not required.
It's daft when other areas of the world are moving towards more open borders that BOTH the US and Mexico are making their paper-based systems even
more complex (causing loss of income in both countries by discouraging trade and tourism).
Rob
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