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JESSE
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The fact is,
More and more people are turning anti goverments, not anti nations, and more and more often goverments are in the hands of a few very powerful people,
the regular folk of the world wants peace, prosperity, and fairness, and not much more, is it a sign that the current world order is getting tired? is
it a sign that democracy as we know it is just not enough?
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movinguy
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Democracy is not enough when
Bush/Chaney and Kerry/Edwards are the best we can come up with in a nation of 300 million people. Power and influence are obviously in the hands of a
very few, just like in every other country.
Think I'll vote Green, or wait - is there a Pacifico party?
Mas Ballenas por todos!!!
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Capt. George
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AL, AS A YOOT!
Yes, I do consider my generation the luckiest....as a kid, maybe not, but as an adult I was able to take my job as a Firefighter and advance as no
other generation before me could do....
Salaries and the cost of living, the low cost of real estate and a couple of lucky breaks put me in a position to semi-retire at 43 yrs young....I
believe it's much more difficult for the young people of today.
Regardless of all this political mumbo-jumbo, I will live the remainder of my life within the peaceful settings of mi casa in Mexico.....Al, mi casa
es su casa para frio
Pacifico!
adios mi amigos! El Vikingo
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Herb
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Big Al
People are people. I wouldn't trust a handshake from a stranger in LA or DF. I would more likely trust a hand a handshake from a farmer in Iowa or a
fisherman in BOLA. |
It looks like we agree, in principal, more than you think. I agree with the above wholeheartedly. My point is that there are more places in the US
like LA or the DF, and more places in Mexico (especially Baja) that are like IOWA and Bahia de Los Angeles. That is why I would be more trusting in
most places down south and fewer places in the USA. It has nothing to do with nationality in and of itself, only a nation's circumstances.
The same goes for the arrogance that many Americans display in other countries. It comes from being the nation with the greatest combination of brute
power and wealth that has existed on this planet for at least a couple of thousand years. I have no doubt that, if Mexico were that nation, then it
would be primarily Mexicans displaying that attitude.
In fact, I have met no group of people whom I have found (collectively) to be more disgustingly and obnoxiously arrogant in general than the wealthy
people of Mexico City. Again, that is a gereralization. There are a few who are my friends.
You yourself said that there are things to love about both the US and Mexico. That means there are things to hate about both as well. It is not
anti-american to point them out.
BTW - I lived and studied in the DF in the 80's as well. I would love to hear more about your experiences in another venue/forum.
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Baja Bernie
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Big Al,
Thanks for sticking to your guns. I also love our country and I would like to ask if anyone can name a country that has done more for its own people
and the people of the world.
Look back at our history and you will find the good, the bad, and the ugly! BUT overall we have not done such a bad job in a scant 200 plus years of
history.
Everything is cyclic. You are born and cared for. You become a teenager and you can do anything and do. (like us in WW1) you get married and things
change(we moved from a Republic to a Democracy) You reach your middle years and you are no longer sure of anything (Vietnam and Spock)and you lash out
at everything. Then you reach an advanced age and you are sure that what you stand for is good and pure. Then you look around at the politicans (who
we allow to control us) and realize, think, know, that you have made some very bad decisions and allowed some real turkeys to control your life. If
America has one great redeeming quality it is the ability to change course and plow new ground and come out an even stronger nation. Only once have
we flirted with a dictatorship and we dodged that bullet.
Look at the other civilized countries and see what happened. france you had Napoleon, then DeGalle, and now Chirac.
Then try Germany under Hitler. Russians-forget it the greatest was Peter the Great and he was a certified nut case.
Italy--no real voting since that wolf raised those two brats.
Hell look to Asia and you find my favorite ruler, Tamerlane, your original ruler by management objectives. The people got the message when he
explained that if they gave up and joined his rule they would be spared. After he made a pyrimad of 10,000 human skulls people joined him without
question.
I have gone on far to long but I need to treat with Mexico as a wind up. Forget the invasions and wars of the ancients. Spaniards who killed without
question or remorse, then the french, and the Germans. What kind of chance did this wonderful land have. Then the Revolution and Carranza, Villa,
etc.
It is amazing---Mexico is only really about 100 years old as a Nation. They have advanced from an era when you got shot for looking crossed eyed--and
unfortunately many people were--to getting angry that a party can not solve the problems that have been festering for 500 yearsin only 10-15 years.
Sorry, we got mixed up in Mexico for two years and have been hated every since. REALIZE THAT THE USA COULD HAVE TAKEN OVER MEXICO WITHOUT A SHOT. To
our credit we didn't. Hell, don't ask me why.
Viva America y Mexico
My smidgen of a claim to fame is that I have had so many really good friends. By Bernie Swaim December 2007
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jrbaja
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Bernie
Happy Thanksgiving !
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David K
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One of my Oaxaca helpers says he sure wished America owned Mexico. Then he wouldn't have to go 3,000 miles from home to make a decent wage!!!
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jrbaja
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Bush has just enough time
to claim Mexico has weapons of terrible nature. Could be u.s. soil muy pronto!
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Baja Bernie
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JR
ARe you going to bring the turkey???
My smidgen of a claim to fame is that I have had so many really good friends. By Bernie Swaim December 2007
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jrbaja
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Flaco says
BAD TRADE !!!!!
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bajasmitty
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people
can't we all just get along    
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bajalera
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Are you ditsy or something, Bajasmitty? Getting along is so boring.
bajalera
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jrbaja
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Putting it mildly Lera!
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Capt. George
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Get Along
Yeah, but first give me a beatin with a baton...........
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Baja Bernie
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Hey, BAJANOMAD
Does JR have a record with over 2,000 viewers on this thread. Think you owe him a cool one.
My smidgen of a claim to fame is that I have had so many really good friends. By Bernie Swaim December 2007
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Markitos
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Yea a trophy for Jr!
Winner Winner Winner
Relax have cold one and enjoy!
All that wonder are not lost
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surfer jim
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A winner has been announced.....now maybe this thread will close....
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jrbaja
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And then what ??
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BajaNomad
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Baja Bernie
Does JR have a record with over 2,000 viewers on this thread. Think you owe him a cool one. |
NOT so fast
there oh sly one....
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jrbaja
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Yah
but if we keep this prattle going, I might be a contender for Baja Nomads "most viewed posts" nonsense. Do replies to myself count?
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