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Dave
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| Quote: | Originally posted by JESSE
with this video, the agents original testimony, i am pretty confident the law will do whats fair. |
And I'm just as confident that even if the agent were justified in shooting he's gonna get thrown under the bus. By public opinion, the
media, and the government.
Any bets?
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Cypress
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The use of "deadly force" with tragic results.  Was it necessary? My prediction?
The border guard will be sacrificed for political purposes.
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Barry A.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Cypress
The use of "deadly force" with tragic results. Was it necessary? My prediction?
The border guard will be sacrificed for political purposes.
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------and law enforcement along the border, and probably elsewhere, takes a step back and the country will reap the results-----------that is not my
idea of progress, but like ToneArt says, that is democracy in action.
Heaven help us. Glad I am not "out there" anymore, and probably some of you say "thank God". 
Barry
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Bajaboy
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Barry A.
| Quote: | Originally posted by Cypress
The use of "deadly force" with tragic results. Was it necessary? My prediction?
The border guard will be sacrificed for political purposes.
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------and law enforcement along the border, and probably elsewhere, takes a step back and the country will reap the results-----------that is not my
idea of progress, but like ToneArt says, that is democracy in action.
Heaven help us. Glad I am not "out there" anymore, and probably some of you say "thank God".
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Barry, I'm with you on this subject. I give law enforcement the benefit of the doubt. They put their lives on the line each day they go to work.
Too many here are unrealistic about the dangers our men and ladies face.
I'll wait for the evidence to determine if the officer was at fault and not jump to any quick judgment calls like so many have already done.
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Barry A.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Cypress
The use of "deadly force" with tragic results. Was it necessary? My prediction?
The border guard will be sacrificed for political purposes.
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What really wasn't necessary are these burroes throwing rocks at LE officers-------that is really dumb! They are called "criminals", no matter what
any of you say or think-----criminals will reap what they sow when they blatantly break the law------I guarantee it. And that applies to rogue LE
officers, also.
I wonder what the "folks" would have said if the BP agent had just grabbed the down suspect by the hair and just split for the safety of the North
dragging him along---------surely unnecessary roughness, or Police brutality--------he is in a no-win situation, no matter what he does------you don't
just leave a captured suspect if you can help it----that is NOT doing your job.
We will see.
Barry
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wessongroup
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Dave
| Quote: | Originally posted by JESSE
with this video, the agents original testimony, i am pretty confident the law will do whats fair. |
And I'm just as confident that even if the agent were justified in shooting he's gonna get thrown under the bus. By public opinion, the
media, and the government.
Any bets? |
None here... Ditto's...
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Cypress
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Just predicting the outcome. Don't really know for certain the circumstances leading up to the shooting and neither does anyone else posting here.
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Bajahowodd
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Given the level of activity along the border, it's a wonder that something like this doesn't happen more frequently. However, I do think that our
national mindset has developed to a point where such incidences are likely to occur more frequently. Let's maybe just take a step back and take a deep
breath. That border has been there for hundreds of years and has been breached for hundreds of years. There has merely been an ebb and flow of
attitudes. Right now, given the economic times, virtually any activity can be construed as incendiary.
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mtgoat666
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Barry,
you still defending the border patrol murder of child?
defending the murderer makes you an accessory!
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DENNIS
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What a bunch of crap this is, from the outset. The area is a war zone...not a playground. These kids mothers should teach them not to play in the
middle of the road.
There are children everywhere and some have guns.
Screw this over-reactive pistolero for his trigger happy response to a situation which he barged into and screw all you Mexicans who think you have a
right to tempt these men as they do their job.
You are all wrong.
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mtgoat666
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does BP mean border patrol or british petroleum?
who do you trust more? i think british petroleum hires smarter people, and border patrol has very low hiring standards
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wessongroup
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Cypress
Just predicting the outcome. Don't really know for certain the circumstances leading up to the shooting and neither does anyone else posting here.
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just saw a video, which was from the BP..... and it does show what happened... some of kids were coming through a hole in the fence, the officer from
BP grabs two of the boys.. one by the hair, the other is staying down on the ground as instructed... then the boy who is shot runs away to the
officers right.. the officer pulls his weapon, and appears to be trying to get control of the situation, but, then points to his right and toward
Mexico and fires a couple shots.. and then pauses, and then fires a few more.. the boy is then show laying by the bridge support, with an individual
walking toward the river bank from the Mexican side... there are now other BP agents with a vehicle on site ... on the American side of the river..
I will let it grind through the process and let those who have the responsibility to make the call, do that....
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mtgoat666
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| Quote: | Originally posted by wessongroup
| Quote: | Originally posted by Cypress
Just predicting the outcome. Don't really know for certain the circumstances leading up to the shooting and neither does anyone else posting here.
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just saw a video, which was from the BP..... |
do you trust video by BP? i trust inependant video. BP, like any govt agencies, doctors facts, video, pictures, data, etc., to change reality.
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MrBillM
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Coincidence or Conspiracy ?
BP poisons Gulf of Mexico.
BP Agent Kills kid in Mexico.
Is there a pattern here ? An Israeli Plot hatched by International Bankers in concert with Halliburton and Blackwater after meeting with George Bush
on his Texas Ranch ?
Kidding, of course. Maybe.
BTW, while Goats "may" prefer inependant Videos, I've always thought them contrived.
[Edited on 6-11-2010 by MrBillM]
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noproblemo2
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No matter what the outcome, the child is dead, the agent will be gone, and the tensions between both sides will remain high. Just think of what the
reverse situation would be, most likely the same emotions ... It is still very sad for all involved.
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MrBillM
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On the Udder Hand .........
Just wondering, But ? ?
IF the Dead Kid WAS involved in Felonious activity then, before and (likely to be) in the future, isn't it better that he's been stopped BEFORE said
activities resulted in actual Innocents being injured or killed ?
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DENNIS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by mtgoat666
do you trust video by BP? i trust inependant video. BP, like any govt agencies, doctors facts, video, pictures, data, etc., to change reality.
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Fresh video is video. Do you think they ran it through Hollywood?
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mtgoat666
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| Quote: | Originally posted by MrBillM
BP poisons Gulf of Mexico.
BP Agent Kills kid in Mexico.
Is there a pattern here ? An Israeli Plot hatched by International Bankers in concert with Halliburton and Blackwater after meeting with George Bush
on his Texas Ranch ?
Kidding, of course. Maybe.
BTW, while Goats "may" prefer inependant Videos, I've always thought them contrived.
[Edited on 6-11-2010 by MrBillM] |
did you lern yur gud spelling in LA publiic schuuls? or did yu lern it at KKK summer camp?
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noproblemo2
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| Quote: | Originally posted by MrBillM
Just wondering, But ? ?
IF the Dead Kid WAS involved in Felonious activity then, before and (likely to be) in the future, isn't it better that he's been stopped BEFORE said
activities resulted in actual Innocents being injured or killed ? |
That is like saying IF you are drinking to much "should you be stopped before the liver damage starts
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JESSE
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| Quote: | Originally posted by MrBillM
Just wondering, But ? ?
IF the Dead Kid WAS involved in Felonious activity then, before and (likely to be) in the future, isn't it better that he's been stopped BEFORE said
activities resulted in actual Innocents being injured or killed ? |
Thats one of he most id***** things i have read here in aa very long time.
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