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JoeJustJoe
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| Quote: | Originally posted by luv2fish
WHAT'S A pinger ??? LOOKS LIKE WE HAVE SOME CSI PERSONAL ON FORUM. HI YALL...... |
Yeah it looks like Jenny has been watching CSI too much and no doubt spent more than one hour researching the picture of the Rhon's protest in a vain
attempt to get the readers here on the "Nomad" forum to believe the thousands of Mexican protestors are just shills, and one person with writing
cramps wrote all those hundreds of signs.
I bet if Jenny watched the basketball playoffs yesterday of Dallas vs Miami that Jenny saw all those blue t-shirts and thought it was a Mark Cuban
conspiracy of forcing all the Maverick fans to wear a blue T-shirt, and not something that the Dallas fans wanted to do in order to show their support
for their favorite team.
The fact is that for whatever reason many people in the Baja/Tijuana region love Hank Rhon of the PRI party and believe Rhon created many jobs in the
area, and started some really good social programs to feed the poor.
Dennis in another post was astonished the the citizens of Tijuana and Baja could have even voted for Hank Rhon for mayor, and I myself often wonder
that myself. But I also wonder how the citizens in the USA voted for George Bush not just once, but twice?
The people of Baja should be voting for their own governor of Baja and shouldn't be having other political parties interfering in the process, and
Mexico has a history of doing these types of things right before elections and I'm pretty sure Jenny knows that.
[Edited on 6-9-2011 by JoeJustJoe]
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DENNIS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by JoeJustJoe
Dennis in another post was astonished the the citizens of Tijuana and Baja could have even voted for Hank Rhon for mayor, and I myself often wonder
that myself. But I also wonder how the citizens in the USA voted for George Bush not just once, but twice?
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Another of life's great mysteries, Joe. Couldn't agree more although he's looking better today than he ever did while in office. It only took the
present situation to illustrate that.
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Pinger
Too funny!
We're saved. Nothing gets past Doug. 
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Woooosh
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The masses of the poor are always supportive of those who provide for them. They don't care if he is flawed. Why should they? The "non-flawed"
politicians have never done anything for them worth a vote. They pulled their red Hank07 shirts out of the hamper and hit the streets. The golden
rule still prevails though: he who has the gold- rules. While Hank was pandering to the poor for governor votes he flushed the tourism and real
estate industries down the tubes by creating public security chaos which led to the present demise of the tourism and real estate industries in Baja
Norte. There weren't enough red shirts to elect him governor though...
\"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing\"
1961- JFK to Canadian parliament (Edmund Burke)
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JoeJustJoe
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Woooosh
Hey Joe. You are quickly becoming unworthy of response. You call me "goose-stepping" by following a Jenny I don't even know. There are lots of
ways to say a person on a message board shares another's view on a topic without the ugly "goose-stepping" connotations.
Why so belligerent about this case? If the entry to the house was illegal, that will come out. Hank should have had 10 firearms at the house- which
is what his permits were for. I really don't doubt that Hank didn't know there was a stash of weapons at his house, but he's still responsible for
his premises. Security people love guns and weaponry and probably got carried away with their collection- it doesn't mean Hank knew... but he's
still responsible for his house. They did find weapons reserved "for the exclusive use of the military"- so someone def got carried away. How much
Hank knew about the guns at his house and how willing the 10 other men arrested are to fall on their swords for Hank will have an impact on the case.
Don't cry for Hank- there is no shame in Mexico. If convicted he will "break out" and hang out in Argentina with the other Mexican Billionaire on the
run, El Chapo- although the two are very unlikely travel partners.
[Edited on 6-8-2011 by Woooosh] |
Nobody says you have to talk to me Woooosh, because I could always go back to the "OT" area and find plenty of idiot trolls to talk to.
I'm sorry you think I'm attacking you, and I was also taken aback by BajaGringo's post agreeing with you! I don't see too much rough play in this
thread unless your talking about the ad hominem attacks by Jenny and those are towards me where she thinks she could tell members that I'm Muslim like
that's suppose to ruin by credibility. BTW I'm not Muslim. Maybe Doug could make a new area like the "OT" area and call it the "kiddie pool," and that
will be the area where nobody will ask tough questions or even challenge other members opinions.
I for one Woooosh is not going to let you present a one-sided argument against Rhon when clearly most of the media stories are supporting Rhon as
well as the citizens of Baja.
The fact is Woooosh it is well known that you support the Mexican military and are hoping that the Mexican government suspends the Mexican
constitution and they declare "Martial Law."God forbid Mexico would ever do something like that.
If this was a legitimate bust then why couldn't the military wait for a warrant to search Rhon's private home and compound? It isn't like those
weapons would be moved anywhere.
Woooosh I think you know exactly who Jenny is and I don't know why you're trying to claim you don't? I'll be sure to let you know exactly who Jenny is
in a private message, but I have to go to San Diego, and that means I have to stop off awhile in TJ asking the locals how they feel about Hank Rhon.
[Edited on 6-9-2011 by JoeJustJoe]
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JESSE
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Overall, i would say 70% of the residents of Tijuana have a very bad image of Jorge Hank. Problem is, only 30% of registered voters vote, so Hank won
his election for mayor with the support of less than 15% of the voters.
Hank is not liked or respected in Tijuana, he is feared.
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jenny.navarrette
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| Quote: | Originally posted by JoeJustJoe
I have to stop off awhile in TJ asking the locals how they feel about Hank Rhon. |
Oh, this is going to be good. Joe thinks the Mexicans are going to discuss their internal polictics with a Gringo looking for putas in the Zona Norte.
No manches.
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JESSE
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| Quote: | Originally posted by jenny.navarrette
| Quote: | Originally posted by JoeJustJoe
I have to stop off awhile in TJ asking the locals how they feel about Hank Rhon. |
Oh, this is going to be good. Joe thinks the Mexicans are going to discuss their internal polictics with a Gringo looking for putas in the Zona Norte.
No manches. |
Well, one thing is for sure, this jenny.navarrete is NOT a woman. Her foul language makes it clear he-she is either a:
1.-Guy
2.-Former table dancer/prostitute
Some of the words he-she-it uses, are spanish, but not Mexican, so perhaps her backround is from another latin american country. And finally, she is
clueless about Mexican politics, she thinks she knows a lot, she knows nothing except for gossip from his-her neighboors and friends.
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Woooosh
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Hey Joe. I just post what I think and I really didn't think I had taken a side yet on the legality of the entry to Hank's house. I figure that's
written down somewhere in Mexican law and the correct answer will soon come. The evidence presented so far does favor the prosecution or Hank
wouldn't be sitting in a cell. I don't think it's right to put a man like Hank away on a weapons charge- money laundering, drug trafficking,
corruption and tax evasion, yes- but guns no. It just comes off as being petty and sleazy, which it is. But to bust Hank on an of those other areas
would bring great harm to the others he conspired with and his party. With this gun charge the powers to be get Hank out of the way without any
collateral damage.
Another blog is reporting Mexican law requires the gun to be on your person or in the same room for you to be charged with weapons possession. Just
being in the house wouldn't be enough to convict Hank in that event.
Yeah, I know who Jenny is. I can post to each persons multiple on-line personas when I need to. I post to you... 
[Edited on 6-9-2011 by Woooosh]
\"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing\"
1961- JFK to Canadian parliament (Edmund Burke)
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Woooosh
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Baja is one of the first areas to have the new open-court judicial reforms in place. Think this will be the first big case/test?
\"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing\"
1961- JFK to Canadian parliament (Edmund Burke)
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Woooosh
Hey Joe. I just post what I think and I really didn't think I had taken a side yet on the legality of the entry to Hank's house. I figure that's
written down somewhere in Mexican law and the correct answer will soon come. The evidence presented so far does favor the prosecution or Hank
wouldn't be sitting in a cell. I don't think it's right to put a man like Hank away on a weapons charge- money laundering, drug trafficking,
corruption and tax evasion, yes- but guns no. It just comes off as being petty and sleazy, which it is. But to bust Hank on an of those other areas
would bring great harm to the others he conspired with and his party. With this gun charge the powers to be get Hank out of the way without any
collateral damage.
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I had the opportunity today to have lunch with a couple of old friends; both very active/prominent members of the PAN party in Tijuana and at the
state level. Both believe that this came down on orders from either Blake Mora or people very close to him. Both believe that it highly likely a deal
of some type was struck with key members of PRI before making the raid. Both are glad to see Hank behind bars but both believe that the entire thing
was handled badly and Hank will be released eventually as the investigation continues.
I have found these guys to be almost spot on with their predictions. Time will tell...
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jenny.navarrette
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| Quote: | Originally posted by BajaGringo
Both believe that it highly likely a deal of some type was struck with key members of PRI before making the raid. |
Not too likely. Hank would have been tipped off in a New York minute and the military totally embarassed. Although, there may have been some deal
after-the-fact to stop the investigation at Hank and not keep going, as the PRI bigwigs are all on the sidelines with closed lips.
Bueno, adiós Hank. Nos conocía Ud. muy bien. Quizás demasiado bien.
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jenny.navarrette
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| Quote: | Originally posted by JESSE
Some of the words he-she-it uses, are spanish, but not Mexican, so perhaps her backround is from another latin american country.
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¡A la gran puchica!
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JESSE
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| Quote: | Originally posted by jenny.navarrette
| Quote: | Originally posted by JESSE
Some of the words he-she-it uses, are spanish, but not Mexican, so perhaps her backround is from another latin american country.
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¡A la gran puchica! |
Me thinks you are a former banned member.
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JoeJustJoe
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| Quote: | Originally posted by BajaGringo
| Quote: | Originally posted by Woooosh
Hey Joe. I just post what I think and I really didn't think I had taken a side yet on the legality of the entry to Hank's house. I figure that's
written down somewhere in Mexican law and the correct answer will soon come. The evidence presented so far does favor the prosecution or Hank
wouldn't be sitting in a cell. I don't think it's right to put a man like Hank away on a weapons charge- money laundering, drug trafficking,
corruption and tax evasion, yes- but guns no. It just comes off as being petty and sleazy, which it is. But to bust Hank on an of those other areas
would bring great harm to the others he conspired with and his party. With this gun charge the powers to be get Hank out of the way without any
collateral damage.
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I had the opportunity today to have lunch with a couple of old friends; both very active/prominent members of the PAN party in Tijuana and at the
state level. Both believe that this came down on orders from either Blake Mora or people very close to him. Both believe that it highly likely a deal
of some type was struck with key members of PRI before making the raid. Both are glad to see Hank behind bars but both believe that the entire thing
was handled badly and Hank will be released eventually as the investigation continues.
I have found these guys to be almost spot on with their predictions. Time will tell... |
I think your friends are right, and others have also said Blake Mora is behind the Rhon's arrest.
Well I'm sure some members of the PRI would like to see Rhon behind bars. I wouldn't exactly say all members of the PRI party is ready to throw Rhon
under the bus because he does have support from a few prominent mayors in Baja. I would definably say that Rhon has more support from the PRI party
that does NY Congressman Weiner does from his own Democrat party.
I'm going to go out on a limb here and say Rhon will at least be released from prison soon either by another " amparo" or some type of bail, although
he faces serious weapons charges and isn't suppose to be let out on bail.
This article from the Frontera doesn't make it sound like Rhon will be getting an "out of jail card soon:
http://www.frontera.info/EdicionEnLinea/Notas/Noticias/08062...
However, knowing a little bit how Tijuana cops trumped-up charges, although the Mexican military was involved here. You can be pretty sure the
Mexican military messed up somewhere, and I bet they messed up with the so-called anonymous tipster, and the three guys they arrested that lead to the
bust in the middle of the night in Rhon's home.
Since Rhon isn't charged with an organized crime charge. He should have the full protection from the Mexican Constitution, and his lawyers could make
a good case for Rhon on a number of legal grounds. Besides Rhon has money, and rarely do Mexicans with that much money sit in prison for long.
However on the other hand if Rhon walks than Calderon and the PAN party look really bad. I know the odds are against Rhon being released, but I'll
take the odds and I bet he gets out of prison soon.
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JoeJustJoe
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Here is a humiliating video of Hank Rhon being treated like a common criminal at the Mexican Tecate prison.
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Traslado de Jorge Hank Rhon a penal del Hongo en Tecate, Baja California
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NMAQoPOVlqk&feature=youtu...
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| Quote: | Originally posted by jenny.navarrette
| Quote: | Originally posted by JoeJustJoe
I have to stop off awhile in TJ asking the locals how they feel about Hank Rhon. |
Oh, this is going to be good. Joe thinks the Mexicans are going to discuss their internal polictics with a Gringo looking for putas in the Zona Norte.
No manches. |
Damn !!!!!!!!! SOMEBODY HAS SOME VERY SERIOUS ISSUES, INCLUDING ANGER. Paranoia to the point of irrationality and delusion. ...
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| Quote: | Originally posted by JESSE
| Quote: | Originally posted by jenny.navarrette
| Quote: | Originally posted by JoeJustJoe
I have to stop off awhile in TJ asking the locals how they feel about Hank Rhon. |
Oh, this is going to be good. Joe thinks the Mexicans are going to discuss their internal polictics with a Gringo looking for putas in the Zona Norte.
No manches. |
Well, one thing is for sure, this jenny.navarrete is NOT a woman. Her foul language makes it clear he-she is either a:
1.-Guy
2.-Former table dancer/prostitute
Some of the words he-she-it uses, are spanish, but not Mexican, so perhaps her backround is from another latin american country. And finally, she is
clueless about Mexican politics, she thinks she knows a lot, she knows nothing except for gossip from his-her neighboors and friends.
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what make you think he has friends ?? With all the contempt for Mexico one cant help wonder if maybe Jerry is maybe Salvadoran ??
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| Quote: | Originally posted by jenny.navarrette
| Quote: | Originally posted by BajaGringo
Both believe that it highly likely a deal of some type was struck with key members of PRI before making the raid. |
Not too likely. Hank would have been tipped off in a New York minute and the military totally embarassed. Although, there may have been some deal
after-the-fact to stop the investigation at Hank and not keep going, as the PRI bigwigs are all on the sidelines with closed lips.
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Could be - when they mentioned that it was highly probable that a deal had been made they never said whether it was before or after the raid. I had
assumed they meant before, but who knows? They did mention that there were many in PRI who would be just as happy seeing Hank in prison, seeing him as
more of a liability than asset.
But this is politics after all...
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JoeJustJoe
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It's starting to look a little better for Hank Rhon. In the last few stories, it has been reported that two of the 11 persons arrested along with Rhon
were released on bail, because their charges weren't that serious.
It looks like there is actual video from Rhon's residence of the Military entering the front security gate where they asked the guard if he had weapon
permits, and when the guard seemingly complied with the request. The guard was subdued and arrested anyway. They also have raw video of other areas
of the house and related areas. It should prove most interesting that they are going to try to reconstruct the events leading up to the arrest of
Rhon. They are trying to reconstruct the facts because there is a discrepancy between what SEDENA, the Attorney General, and what Rhon and the other
men arrested with Rhon said in regards to the facts.
I think after they see the video, interview witnesses including the three who were arrested for allegedly carrying weapons. We will have a better
picture of what the true facts actually are. I hope Hank Rhon's people release the video footage to the general public like I read they would do
somewhere else.
http://www.afntijuana.info/nota_informativa2011.php?page=jun...
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