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Gypsy Jan
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elgatoloco, Three Words, "Tacos el Gerente"
We are pausing to interrupt the regularly scheduled vicious Internet infighting and slurring for a Special Report.
Hugo, the main man, left "Tacos Yaqui" a few years ago.
Tacos Yaqui, in my humble opinion, has suffered from the loss.
Hugo opened up his own place, "Tacos el Gerente" is on the same street, same side of the street, about three blocks north.
Try them both (they are walking distance) and please, report back! 
We now return you to the regularly scheduled programming; the internet p**ing match.
[Edited on 6-11-2011 by Gypsy Jan]
“Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry, and narrow mindedness.”
—Mark Twain
\"La vida es dura, el corazon es puro, y cantamos hasta la madrugada.” (Life is hard, the heart is pure and we sing until dawn.)
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\"Alea iacta est.\"
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A basic rule to follow; Don't shoot back! That seems to really upset them!
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Gypsy Jan
We are pausing to interrupt the regularly scheduled vicious Internet infighting and slurring for a Special Report.
Hugo, the main man, left "Tacos Yaqui" a few years ago.
Tacos Yaqui, in my humble opinion, has suffered from the loss.
Hugo opened up his own place, "Tacos el Gerente" is on the same street, same side of the street, about three blocks north.
Try them both (they are walking distance) and please, report back!
We now return you to the regularly scheduled programming; the internet p**ing match.
[Edited on 6-11-2011 by Gypsy Jan] |
The taco break was a nice touch Jan. We needed the break. You did leave out the accusations of horsemeat tacos being throw back and forth down the
block. I don't know which one of them started it. I don't like the beans in my beef tacos, so I pass on the Perrones (did I spell that right?) they
are justly famous for. 
[Edited on 6-11-2011 by Woooosh]
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| Quote: | Originally posted by DENNIS
| Quote: | Originally posted by jenny.navarrette
What it really means is that he was killed for changing sides. |
That's exactly why I've been a Dodger fan my entire life. Yep....that's why. |
The SAME boiling water that softens the potato hardens the egg. It's about what you are made of NOT the circumstance.
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Gypsy Jan
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Yeah, Wooosh, I Heard About the Horsemeat Accusations
I don't believe them. Seems to be more likely a result of bad feelings about the split up. The old man at Yaqui stands out in the street, waves his
arms and yells, pointing to hisi parking lot, trying to divert drivers from going north on the one-way street to El Gerente.
I kinda think that I can tell the difference between beef and horse meat, but I have never knowingly eaten the latter, being sentimental about horses.
On the other hand, my high school algebra teacher used to tell our class stories about living on horse meat when he was a starving student in Paris.
He praised it highly.
“Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry, and narrow mindedness.”
—Mark Twain
\"La vida es dura, el corazon es puro, y cantamos hasta la madrugada.” (Life is hard, the heart is pure and we sing until dawn.)
—Kirsty MacColl, Mambo de la Luna
\"Alea iacta est.\"
—Julius Caesar
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Woooosh
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Gypsy Jan
I don't believe them. Seems to be more likely a result of bad feelings about the split up. The old man at Yaqui stands out in the street, waves his
arms and yells, pointing to hisi parking lot, trying to divert drivers from going north on the one-way street to El Gerente.
I kinda think that I can tell the difference between beef and horse meat, but I have never knowingly eaten the latter, being sentimental about horses.
On the other hand, my high school algebra teacher used to tell our class stories about living on horse meat when he was a starving student in Paris.
He praised it highly. |
I wouldn't care if it was horsemeat really. Not sure if it is illegal- just that some people, like you- are sensitive to it. Once you marinate and
slow grill it- it will be great taco meat. They should tell you though. Tacos Jacqui used to close around 3pm or when they ran out of meat for the
day- no? The Taxi drivers devour it.
It would be great if some Rosarito foodie would do a Restaurant Review on the two Tacos Jacqui and let us know the scoop on the food these days. 
[Edited on 6-12-2011 by Woooosh]
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Jeeeeezo, Wooooosh....that's Mr. Ed you're talking about scarfing down. How can you?
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I'll take a burro taco or burro machaca anyday!
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Horse slaughter conditions in Mexico explored by AAEP group
Debate over the practice continues in Congress
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Though nearly two years have passed since the last horse processing plant closed in the United States, horses continue being shipped from the United
States to slaughterhouses in Mexico and Canada.
Looking at 2008 Department of Agriculture figures, close to 80,000 horses from the United States traveled to Mexico for slaughter and approximately
40,000 went to Canada. The estimated total of 120,000 is less than the 140,000 figure from 2007.
"That's still a tremendous amount of horses," said Dr. Timothy Cordes, a senior staff veterinarian for equine programs with the USDA Animal and Plant
Health Inspection Service. He also noted that the final numbers won't be available until the end of March. The USDA's numbers are based on the number
of owner/shipper certificates corroborated with other sources.
To get a better idea of how the Mexican horse slaughter industry operates, a delegation representing the American Association of Equine Practitioners
arranged a tour of two Mexican slaughter facilities in the central Mexican city of Zacatecas last fall. Both are federally inspected, but one meets
European standards and the other, which is locally owned and run, meets Mexican standards.
"If you look at it from the hard perspective of the meat industry, they're in the business to produce meat. They don't want an injured or down or
stressed horse any more than they have to, because it affects the meat quality,"
—DR. TOM R. LENZ, FORMER AAEP PRESIDENT
AAEP past presidents Drs. Tom R. Lenz and Doug G. Corey, as well as an international member of the AAEP board of directors, Dr. Sergio Salinas,
visited the area Nov. 9-10. They first toured one of the two South American-owned plants that operate under European Union and Mexican slaughter
regulations. Five federal Mexican veterinary inspectors work at the plant in addition to three company veterinarians. In all, 200 are employed there.
About 1,000 horses are processed a week; half are Mexican and the rest from the United States. Mexican and U.S. horses are kept separate during travel
but are processed at the same facilities.
"All of the American horses arrive in sealed trailers," Dr. Lenz said, noting that the horses aren't unloaded or sold anywhere, but go straight from
the border to the plant. A federal seal is placed on the horses at the border. They are then shipped for 10 to 12 hours to one of the two federal
inspection type, or TIF, plants in Zacatecas. "They say they could make it in eight hours but choose 10 to 12 because they arrive in better
condition," Dr. Lenz said.
On arrival at the processing plant, a federal Mexican veterinarian cuts the seal. Any horses severely injured in transport are euthanized.
AAEP delegation
Horses feeding
A delegation representing the AAEP, including Dr. Tom R. Lenz (center), took a tour of two horse slaughterhouses Nov. 9-10 in Zacatecas, Mexico. Dr.
Lenz said the plants were well-run, and workers killed the horses humanely by captive bolt.
The AAEP group met with the manager of the plant and was allowed free access throughout the building, where they spent three to four hours.
"They allowed us to look at everything and take pictures. Even in the United States you are seldom allowed to take pictures at a processing plant,"
Dr. Lenz said.
Dr. Lenz, who is also chairman of the Unwanted Horse Coalition, looked at the horses in the paddocks where most stay for a week or so. He said the
pens looked clean and the horses looked good, although he classified them as "slimmer." On a scale ascending from one to nine, as Dr. Lenz put it, he
saw many fours and fives. He could tell they were slimmer than the ones he saw at a former plant in Fort Worth, Texas.
"They told us (that's the kind of) horses they're buying now," Dr. Lenz said, noting that is the case because owners are holding onto their horses for
a while, even when they can't afford them.
Plant officials told Dr. Lenz they see horses at sale barns too thin for meat processing. They also noted the price of horses has gone down;
meanwhile, the cost to ship a horse from Morton, Texas, to Zacatecas stays at about $200.
"(The shipping cost) drives down what they're willing to pay for these horses," Dr. Lenz said.
Before processing, workers move the horses with flags rather than whips. One at a time the horses go into stocks. Once in place, a hydraulic bar
pushes the horse forward while a wedge-shaped stainless steel device comes under the chin and cradles the head. This limits the horse's movement, Dr.
Lenz said, which better facilitates placement of the captive device.
Dr. Lenz watched a couple dozen horses being killed by captive bolt, with which he said the employees were "extremely accurate." The skulls were then
inspected for glanders and the carcasses randomly tested for drug residues and parasites in the meat as well as Escherichia coli and Salmonella
infections.
Employees wear white coveralls, hats, gloves, masks, and hairnets while working, in addition to scrubbing their boots before coming in and out of the
processing area.
The facility ships the meat to Japan and Europe for human consumption. "If you look at it from the hard perspective of the meat industry, they're in
the business to produce meat. They don't want an injured or down or stressed horse any more than they have to, because it affects the meat quality,"
Dr. Lenz said.
Other parts from the horse do not go to waste. The hides are sent to Italy, hair from the mane and tail goes to China for paintbrushes, the small
intestines go to Egypt for sausage casings, the tendons go to Japan for human consumption, and the hooves and tail (without the hair) to a rendering
plant.
"(The plant) was an extremely clean, well-run plant. ... From a veterinary perspective, the animals were handled well," he said.
The other processing plant the group visited was locally owned by a Mexican company that solely dealt with Mexican horses. Sellers, arriving in their
pickup trucks and trailers, would bring their horses to the plant two or three at a time. This plant processes only about 280 horses a week and has 12
employees. A veterinarian wasn't on site; however, one did come once a week to inspect the meat and facility, Dr. Lenz said.
This processing plant also kills the horses by captive bolt, though the stocks were not as sophisticated as at the other plant.
Overall, the group's assessment of the trip concluded that both plants use captive bolt in a humane and efficient manner, and the horses were
well-cared-for and properly handled.
—Malinda Osborne
When the way comes to an end, then change. Having changed, you pass through.
~ I-Ching
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| Quote: | Originally posted by DENNIS
Jeeeeezo, Wooooosh....that's Mr. Ed you're talking about scarfing down. How can you? |
OK Wilbur, calm down. I was thinking of the unlucky cuota road-kill horses, not the talking kind- of course, of course.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by bajabound2005
Yaqui is open indeed. We do a bike ride the 2nd Saturday of every month (Today) and the ride ends there 
[Edited on 6-11-2011 by bajabound2005] |
We mised you!. Got there at about 11:00. Saw a LOT of bikes on the old road that were headed north when we continued south. Stopped at Puerto Nuevo
for tequila and could hardly park for all the bicicletas strewn about. Muchos gentes pedaling. 
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Gypsy Jan
We are pausing to interrupt the regularly scheduled vicious Internet infighting and slurring for a Special Report.
Hugo, the main man, left "Tacos Yaqui" a few years ago.
Tacos Yaqui, in my humble opinion, has suffered from the loss.
Hugo opened up his own place, "Tacos el Gerente" is on the same street, same side of the street, about three blocks north.
Try them both (they are walking distance) and please, report back!
We now return you to the regularly scheduled programming; the internet p**ing match.
[Edited on 6-11-2011 by Gypsy Jan] |
I miss Hugo's loud greeting of "hey guero!" when I would arrive for my fix. I will certainly give his place a try next time. I thought I had heard
from somone that he opened up in TJ somewhere? When I first 'discovered' Yaqui's in 1987 or 88 Senor Yaqui was making the perrones himself and when he
ran out of meat for the day he closed. It made it tough to plan because sometimes he ran out at 2 sometimes he was there until 4, you never knew and
that was part of the adventure. The wife and I were greeted warmly by Yaqui by name on Saturday and our guests from Switzerland were a bit skeptical
of all things Baja at first, including dining establishments where you walked up to the counter and ordered food that was cooked and prepared right in
front of you. After the first bite of a perrone and certainly by the end of our 'sport eating' weekend they were trying to figure out when they could
make it back down. I personally noticed no significant change in taste,quality,service at Yaqui over the years but a perrone is not rocket science
especially compared to say, chicken fried steak? 
I enjoy reading all of your and others dining reviews and always looking for someplace new and interesting to try. Someday I suspect I will see you
sitting across the dining room somewhere down in the Baja for sure.
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I thought as an actual resident of Rosarito, I'd respond.
Unless you are a friend of the "grasshopper" and want to involve yourself in his business, you are not likely to deal with his friends.
Nothing wrong with Ensenada... I went there last weekend. For those who chose not to travel that far, Rosarito is safe, pleasant, and convienient.
For all the good things about other cities, the apparent fact remains that the largest number of foreign residents, primarily north americans, reside
here in Rosarito. The thing speaks for itself.
To answer your question directly, I presume you are planning on renting in a secure location. If you are in a gated community then I don't think you
need worry about car theft. I am not aware of problems even in non-gated neighborhoods, but I think a stranger who is not familiar with the area
should take that precaution. As far as it goes, some of the people posting here are also on other boards bemoaning crime in their neighborhoods...
break-ins and thefts. So rent in a gated, secure community... not one that is open with just a "guard" walking around blowing a whistle.
I would locate in a populated area... not rural. If you are around others similarly situated it is easier to adjust... so between Puerto Nuevo vs.
Rosarito, I encourage closer to town... but really, if you hang out at Ruben', Pescador, Boby's, Splash, etc., you will find gringos there dining and
drinking into the evening, regularly, having fun, and getting home just fine.
Make no mistake... I am a fan of Baja... Rosarito in particular. But I have no business to promote... nothing to sell. I am a fan because I have
enjoyed my life here for 10 years or so without problem. I am not unique.
As far as how the media covers something... it is drug dealer vs. drug dealer... not folks like you and me enjoying lobster, fish tacos, and an adult
beverage. So be just as cautious as you would be in a strange place and avoid becoming a victim of everyday crime... it is really not that difficult.
Feel free to write if you want specific thoughts... glad to help.
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