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DENNIS
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What is it with TripAdvisor? Are their ratings bought and paid for??
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longlegsinlapaz
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I don't know about "bought & paid for", but the nature of their rating system is based on individuals rating places they've been. Because it's
basically a voluntary input system & technically based on the honor system, it leave huge gaps for individual business owners to go in &
create their own positive ratings & I personally know of at least one person who has created glowing trip reports on his own establishment.
Fortunately (or unfortunately for the property owner), when English is not your first language & people know you & your speech patterns, it's
kinda a dead giveaway when the same bad phraseology & misspellings are made in all the positive comments about a particular business.
TripAdvisor has had more than one legal issue about the way their "independent ratings" are generated. Their ratings are, for the most part, highly
suspect, if not meaningless in my book & to most of my acquaintances as well.
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DENNIS
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Thanks.....I'll continue to avoid their evaluations.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by oxxo
In a word, YES, I can diss the place without going there! The owner of Tailhunter came on this forum to promote her establishment.
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Just read this thread for the first time and this one sentence jumped out at me. There seems to be a real line drawn around here about promoting
one's business. For some it is seen as a good thing, and for others, the person is attacked for doing the same thing. Please, oxxo, this is not
solely directed toward you, it is just an observation of what has happened now and before.
But I do agree with longlegs that a review of a place is better if one has been there---and everyone will have a different opinion.
As far as the name of tailhunters, I guess I am not really up on all the current insults towards women because I interpreted the name to mean hunting
fish --- yellowtail.
Lots of different perceptions are possible.
Oh, "Sirena" good luck with your business.
[Edited on 6-12-2011 by DianaT]
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vandenberg
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Gnukid's response comes closest to my experience.
Bad food and horrible service. Good place to stay away from.
Of course, as far as I'm concerned, that goes for ALL the Cabo joints also.
[Edited on 6-12-2011 by vandenberg]
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I love live music !!
Never stopped in there on my last brief trip through La Paz but looks like a great place for tourists to sit looking out on the bay and have a cold
one.
If there is live music I will be there. I cant get enough and even listen to terrible mariachis if they are playing with heart
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flyfishinPam
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Hey there, I have known Jonathan since I started my business and I remember when he was trying to come up with a catchy name for his operation and
came up with "Tailhunter" his logo is a topless mermaid. I like Him and I like Jill and I like fishing. Jonathan came up with the name when he was a
single guy, maybe if Jill was part of it a different name would have been chosen, but she came into the scene when it was already established.
I have to say that there is a LOT of sexism in the fishing business. Just look at about any fishing oriented website, like Western Outdoor News for
instance. I try to read Robin's reports but there are a couple of boobies jiggling in the sidebar selling something that I cannot tell what it is. A
little distracting. Sex sells and generally it is a male oriented sport.
I tried to not go in that direction when I started my operation, because when I did the shows I certainly did feel it. I am not a person who is
unaccustomed to being a woman in a man's career either, but it does go over the top on occasion, case in point "Bongos sportfishing" what are they
know for? At any rate I felt why alienate 50% of the human population by marketing your product in this way? Maybe that's why i fell into the fly
fishing aspect, who knows. But oxxo is right and I am happy that a man is making his comments. Although these things do not bother me I am 46 years
old and can handle what I am seeing, but I have an 11 year old daughter and an 8 year old son that I find myself having to explain these things to.
Good luck on the restaurant Jill and Jonathan, I know its a tough business!
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DENNIS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by flyfishinPam
Sex sells |
Yes.......it does.
http://www.baja.com/ENSENADA/nightlife/anthonys/index.html
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bajajazz
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"Tailhunter" is a vulgar name.
Amplified guitar bands do not belong in a residential neighborhood. (Actually, amplified guitar bands don't belong any place, with the possible
exception of Hell).
The food at "Tailhunter" is mediocre, unmemorable and never to be recommended.
The wait staff at "Tailhunter" have always been remarkably courteous and friendly.
The views at "Tailhunter" are first-class, disregarding the abomination that has occurred on El Mogote. The rest of the operation should try to live
up to the standard set by the views.
I settled in La Paz a quarter of a century ago because the town and its people were friendly, polite and safe. Introducing vulgarisms like
"Tailhunter" onto our Malecon is a disservice to the overall cause of civility.
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DENNIS
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Sounds as though the Tailhunter might consider a make-over. It wouldn't be an admission of anything.
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mtgoat666
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| Quote: | Originally posted by DENNIS
Sounds as though the Tailhunter might consider a make-over. It wouldn't be an admission of anything. |
perhaps a Hooters franchise would succeed at that location.
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mtgoat666
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| Quote: | Originally posted by longlegsinlapaz
I don't know about "bought & paid for", but the nature of their rating system is based on individuals rating places they've been. Because it's
basically a voluntary input system & technically based on the honor system, it leave huge gaps for individual business owners to go in &
create their own positive ratings & I personally know of at least one person who has created glowing trip reports on his own establishment.
Fortunately (or unfortunately for the property owner), when English is not your first language & people know you & your speech patterns, it's
kinda a dead giveaway when the same bad phraseology & misspellings are made in all the positive comments about a particular business.
TripAdvisor has had more than one legal issue about the way their "independent ratings" are generated. Their ratings are, for the most part, highly
suspect, if not meaningless in my book & to most of my acquaintances as well. |
tripadvisor aint bad. you just need to learn how to filter and read the reviews.
tripadvisor is good way to review hotels, but not a particularly good way to review tour providers, attractions or restaurants
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Genecag
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We Love La Paz and are looking forward to making it our home base in the short future.....Currently, we spend a week or two every quarter in La Paz
and while there we usually eat out one meal a day.
Over the past 8 years, we have covered most of the resturants in La Paz and we have our favorite few (we - my wife and I).
My wife likes resturants like, Blue Azul, 3 Virgenes, Casa Club at Costa Baja and you can see her style and tastes 
We also like Pichilingue, 3 mares, Palermo and all the little places that locals enjoy with names that I cannot remember....
In the beginning, my wife was not a big fan of Tailhunter. She too did not understand the humor and fun in the 'names', the decoration, and the More
Male eccentric themes.
English is not my native tongue and neither for my wife as well who is Mexican and I am Korean. Having called USA my home for most of my life and
having to learn English as a child, it was hard and took a long time for me to learn all the Idioms, Colloquialisms, double meanings and etc..
As we enjoyed eating our fresh Sashimi, I would try to explain the fun in the meaning of 'TailHunter' and 'Fubar' and why I thought the 'Stone on a
string' weather indicator was funny and the 'Tequila will make your clothes fall off' sign always put a smile on my face. And, my wife now thinks it a
little (ok very little) funny too...
My wife thought some of it was crude but tried to see it from my side. I told her it was like the saying, 'a bad day of fishing is better than a good
day at work'. It's fun and older guys like us are trying to remember the younger days with less responsibility and more time for goofing off.
It's biased since my Wife loves me but she really enjoys the fresh sashimi, fish tacos, the fresh grilled fish, and even the FUBAR Fries while having
a nice cold Michalada at Tailhunter.
I like the fact that Tailhunter is open late and instead of cooking something, we can pop there for a quick fish taco. As for the comparison to Cabo,
well maybe if you only saw a photo of Tailhunter but if you gave yourself a chance to enjoy the place you would see it is nothing like Cabo.
We have met Jill and Roland and as owners should are always great hosts and makes us feel very welcomed and that they appreciate our business. The
four of us even poll danced upstairs and had a great time. People in their 40s should not be poll dancing, LOL and hence happened only once.
Keep up the great job! The last time we were there, the chicken wings and bbq pork ribs were awesome. My wife and I pretend to be 'Novios' when were
there and enjoy the setting for what it is.
Hope to see you all there in July!!!
Make it a Great Day!!
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Genecag
We Love La Paz and are looking forward to making it our home base in the short future.....Currently, we spend a week or two every quarter in La Paz
and while there we usually eat out one meal a day.
Over the past 8 years, we have covered most of the resturants in La Paz and we have our favorite few (we - my wife and I).
My wife likes resturants like, Blue Azul, 3 Virgenes, Casa Club at Costa Baja and you can see her style and tastes
We also like Pichilingue, 3 mares, Palermo and all the little places that locals enjoy with names that I cannot remember....
In the beginning, my wife was not a big fan of Tailhunter. She too did not understand the humor and fun in the 'names', the decoration, and the More
Male eccentric themes.
English is not my native tongue and neither for my wife as well who is Mexican and I am Korean. Having called USA my home for most of my life and
having to learn English as a child, it was hard and took a long time for me to learn all the Idioms, Colloquialisms, double meanings and etc..
As we enjoyed eating our fresh Sashimi, I would try to explain the fun in the meaning of 'TailHunter' and 'Fubar' and why I thought the 'Stone on a
string' weather indicator was funny and the 'Tequila will make your clothes fall off' sign always put a smile on my face. And, my wife now thinks it a
little (ok very little) funny too...
My wife thought some of it was crude but tried to see it from my side. I told her it was like the saying, 'a bad day of fishing is better than a good
day at work'. It's fun and older guys like us are trying to remember the younger days with less responsibility and more time for goofing off.
It's biased since my Wife loves me but she really enjoys the fresh sashimi, fish tacos, the fresh grilled fish, and even the FUBAR Fries while having
a nice cold Michalada at Tailhunter.
I like the fact that Tailhunter is open late and instead of cooking something, we can pop there for a quick fish taco. As for the comparison to Cabo,
well maybe if you only saw a photo of Tailhunter but if you gave yourself a chance to enjoy the place you would see it is nothing like Cabo.
We have met Jill and Roland and as owners should are always great hosts and makes us feel very welcomed and that they appreciate our business. The
four of us even poll danced upstairs and had a great time. People in their 40s should not be poll dancing, LOL and hence happened only once.
Keep up the great job! The last time we were there, the chicken wings and bbq pork ribs were awesome. My wife and I pretend to be 'Novios' when were
there and enjoy the setting for what it is.
Hope to see you all there in July!!! |
after reading your description and why you are fond of the decor,... i think perhaps that the decor at tailhunter/fubar is sort of like a chuck e.
cheese for over the hill jocks and frat boys.
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Wow...Jonathon my man, when they hound you like this you know that you've made it! lol
I've been bringing my friends and clients to La Paz for a very very long time and recently I've been at the TAILHUNTER for food and drinks and it's
always been great.
Yes, I'm BIASED because I'm one of Jonathon's first fishing clients from way back in the day while bringing the father-in-law down south to fish.
Nonetheless, I'm in La Paz 30 days a year spread out over the entire year and I still keep coming back to wherever Jonathon is because he continues to
deliver!
To BajaJazz - Don't like it or the name, don't visit and don't read the signs...I mean its pretty simple eh? Jonathon's biz name has been TailHunter
International for a very long time, way before the restaurant deal and I don't see you making it go away to soon-so suck it up.
Desertbull aka Big Tim Sanchez aka-aka "Dirty Sanchez"
 
[Edited on 6-13-2011 by Desertbull]
DREAM IT! PLAN IT! LIVE IT!
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Bajahowodd
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Absolutely!
| Quote: | Originally posted by DENNIS
What is it with TripAdvisor? Are their ratings bought and paid for?? |
A few years ago, Jesse's restaurant had their #1 plaque displayed by the entrance. I recall ahving a discussion with him.
Fact is that there have been some pretty shady to awful restaurants and hotels that managed to find their way to the top of the ranking. Even a hotel
in La Paz was in the #1 spot for years that many locals will attest, was, shall we say, bathed in scandal.
Anyway, I do agree with goat that properly using your head to filter the written reviews still allows Tripadvisor to be relevant.
We've stayed at a few absolutely wonderful places that had some awful comments written on Tripdavisor.
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DENNIS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Bajahowodd
Anyway, I do agree with goat that properly using your head to filter the written reviews still allows Tripadvisor to be relevant.
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Jeeeezo.....if you have to interpret the thing, why not just ignore it?
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It's awesome that there are those that appreciate great food and service and those that just enjoy beer. Ordering beer from a bottle and nothing else
is a great way to avoid surprises and enjoy the cable TV. But can Jonathan just come out and say why they don't just serve fresh grilled fish and
fresh salads! Forget about being offended by chauvinistic attitude, good food isn't offensive to anyone, but bad food and bad service is a nightmare.
Or here's an idea: change the name from Tailhunter to "Jonathan's frozen tv dinner house", "we defrost it right after you arrive! And sometimes we
don't!"
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oxxo
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| Quote: | Originally posted by DianaT
I interpreted the name to mean hunting fish --- yellowtail. |
| Quote: | Originally posted by flyfishinPam
I remember when he was trying to come up with a catchy name for his operation and came up with "Tailhunter" his logo is a topless mermaid.
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I get the mental image. Yep, it's all about "hunting fish." I wonder if it's an Asian Mermaid? 
[Edited on 6-14-2011 by oxxo]
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Genecag
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| Quote: | | after reading your description and why you are fond of the decor,... i think perhaps that the decor at tailhunter/fubar is sort of like a chuck e.
cheese for over the hill jocks and frat boys. |
LOL, well if it includes good food, nice people, a fun atmosphere, US sports, a great view of the malecon and bay then you got it right For Tailhunter, they are more than the quick book cover description....
I heard that Big Yellow Tail upwards of 200 pounds are running around and hope they stick around until July. Hope to see you all there. I'll be the
korean guy on the second floor with the hot Blonde
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