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MMc
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This is on the NON BAJA side of the house.
MMc
"Never teach a pig to sing it frustrates you and annoys the pig" - W.C.Fields
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DENNIS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Skipjack Joe
Suppose we fence in a bunch of cattle in a corral and invite the hunting community to come and shoot them. How many would come to do this? How much
interest would such a hunt garner. Zero. |
I agree, but your analogy is flawed. The Hunt is foreplay leading to the Kill. One is meaningless without the other.
Paintball battles are the same thing.
So is real combat. WW-2.......the slaughter of penned victims was atrocious while a Rommel-Patton confrontation was glorius.
The Hunt and the Kill are symbiotic events...seperate, but one.
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[Edited on 9-11-2011 by DENNIS]
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mtgoat666
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Skipjack Joe
You are wrong that hunters kill for the enjoyment of killing. And I can prove it.
blah, blah, blah, fictional scenario...
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that's your proof????
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Skipjack Joe
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| Quote: | Originally posted by DENNIS
| Quote: | Originally posted by Skipjack Joe
Suppose we fence in a bunch of cattle in a corral and invite the hunting community to come and shoot them. How many would come to do this? How much
interest would such a hunt garner. Zero. |
I agree, but your analogy is flawed. The Hunt is foreplay leading to the Kill. One is meaningless without the other.
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If that's the case then why do anglers spend time with catch-and-release? Most of the blue ribbon rivers in Montana are now all catch and release and
they draw a lot of anglers. If the hunt is meaningless without the kill then where is the pleasure of releasing a fish? Releasing would make all the
stalking meaningless yet anglers are willing to go through all that and not killing.
[Edited on 9-11-2011 by Skipjack Joe]
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DENNIS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Skipjack Joe
If the hunt is meaningless without the kill then where is the pleasure of releasing a fish? Releasing would make all the stalking meaningless yet
anglers are willing to go through all that and not killing.
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To catch and control the fish is synonymous with the kill and releasing the animal only serves to enhance the allusion of full control. After
all....it is predominantly the New Age Angler who has co-opted the power of giving extended life to an otherwise dead fish. He has become the new
Creator....in Waders.
Besides....Political Correctness has all the coercive force as Lightning Bolts from the Heavens.
And, Igor, I have to ask.....what is the sense in going to all the trouble and expense to hook a fish and create such mayhem within the animal only to
do further damage by extracting the hook before sending it back to possibly suffer the same ordeal again in the future? These are living creatures.
Don't they deserve any respect for that alone?
It would seem to me the same thrill of the fight could be attained by tying the leader to your grandkid's bicycle and telling him to take off.
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It would seem to me the same thrill of the fight could be attained by tying the leader to your grandkid's bicycle and telling him to take off.
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i can't wait to try that one! now, if i could just get my son to help me out a bit!
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Russ
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I do see the vulgarity to hunting & fishing in you posts Dennis. I guess I'll never be civilized enough not to get a rush with each fish I catch
or bird I hit.
Bahia Concepcion where life starts...given a chance!
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mtgoat666
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Russ
I do see the vulgarity to hunting & fishing in you posts Dennis. I guess I'll never be civilized enough not to get a rush with each fish I catch
or bird I hit. |
that's just perverted that you get a rush when you hit a bird. you people that get a thrill from killing are sick!
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bajabass
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Is it possible one could be so miserable within their own existence, that the thought of others actually enjoying life and the great outdoors,
enjoying the gifts of food that Ma Nature provides, drags up some barely hidden resentment?????
Keep your eyes on the road, and your hands upon the wheel!
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Barry, you don't have to remind me what happens if you denegrate The King. The psychofants will eat your lunch. There are thousands of real live heros
on this board -- I don't have to name them. They earn our praise through example: they play by the rules, they don't need any strokes, don't have a
photo library larger than the Library of Congress. They love Baja, the people and the culture and they are embassadores where ever they travel or
settle down here. I would wear out my fingertips compliling a list of such people and reciting their deeds of kindness, charity and fair play. I
simply see a huge gap between them and Pompano. You know, we could hire a rich, traveling troubador with a camera to fill the board almost daily with
the photos and words of our dreams. Ah but that would be another kind of forum. This one is about Baja California.
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bajabass
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Again, this thread is in the Non Baja Vacation Report section. Just like Off Topic, don't like, don't read!!
Keep your eyes on the road, and your hands upon the wheel!
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mtgoat666
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| Quote: | Originally posted by bajabass
Is it possible one could be so miserable within their own existence, that the thought of others actually enjoying life and the great outdoors,
enjoying the gifts of food that Ma Nature provides, drags up some barely hidden resentment????? |
"resentment" is not the correct word. "revulsion" is the word.
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Barry A.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by mtgoat666
| Quote: | Originally posted by bajabass
Is it possible one could be so miserable within their own existence, that the thought of others actually enjoying life and the great outdoors,
enjoying the gifts of food that Ma Nature provides, drags up some barely hidden resentment????? |
"resentment" is not the correct word. "revulsion" is the word. |
"judgemental" might be a more correct word. 
Barry
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DENNIS
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| Quote: | | Quote: | Originally posted by Barry A.
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"judgemental" might be a more correct word.
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I've often wondered why that word, "judgemental", is used as a negative evaluation. Who here doesn't constantly make moral judgements on things in
our lives?
To deny that we do, is to say we don't know right from wrong and lack the capabilities to see and react to the difference.
"JUDGEMENTAL AND PROUD OF IT"
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DENNIS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by bajabass
the thought of others actually enjoying life and the great outdoors, |
You're going to have to pay closer attention. The subject here is your enjoyment of death.....not life. If it was life you enjoyed, you'd be
spending your retirement at a Petting Zoo instead of sitting in a chair high in a tree with your Archery set.
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Russ
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"judgemental"
Especially today. "judgemental" would be anyone disagreeing with your judgement is wrong. KaBOOM
Narrow minded zealots
Bahia Concepcion where life starts...given a chance!
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LancairDriver
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Osprey
Barry, you don't have to remind me what happens if you denegrate The King. The psychofants will eat your lunch. There are thousands of real live heros
on this board -- I don't have to name them. They earn our praise through example: they play by the rules, they don't need any strokes, don't have a
photo library larger than the Library of Congress. They love Baja, the people and the culture and they are embassadores where ever they travel or
settle down here. I would wear out my fingertips compliling a list of such people and reciting their deeds of kindness, charity and fair play. I
simply see a huge gap between them and Pompano. You know, we could hire a rich, traveling troubador with a camera to fill the board almost daily with
the photos and words of our dreams. Ah but that would be another kind of forum. This one is about Baja California. |
What marooon would open the post of an individual who they are obviously consumed and sick with jealousy of? Particularly one who contributes more to
this board than this individual could ever hope to. And by the way could use a little polish in selecting words they are capable of spelling properly.
Pompano properly titles his posts and he has many followers on this board who appreciate and enjoy his many posts and pictures. It is amazing what
trash some individuals come up with sitting behind the safety of their keyboard. Man up and arrange to meet the person who you are trashing and say
what you have to say to their face, up close and personal.
Get a life.
PS- I didn't spell marooon improperly, the spelling changed after posting for some reason.
[Edited on 9-11-2011 by LancairDriver]
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shari
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Bajachillin
Question for you Dennis. What do you think the outlook for wildlife would be if hunting were abolished? Just curious. And before you jump to any
conclusions, I only hunt with a camera. |
now THAT is an interesting question to think about on a beautiful Sunday morning in paradise...thanks
in my opinion this topic is relevent in baja....more so than many other threads...
and Dennis...I'm sending you a big a$$ bear hug for being you.
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DENNIS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by shari
and Dennis...I'm sending you a big a$$ bear hug for being you. |
"Live" bear, I hope.  Thanks Toots.
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DENNIS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by LancairDriver
PS- I didn't spell marooon improperly, the spelling changed after posting for some reason.
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It's because the machine doesn't like the word, "Mow-ron."
And, by the way, perhaps it's been to OZ and now has a heart which means it doesn't like censorship either.
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