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desertcpl
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thanks David I will look into it, I will shelve the 3 ply for now.
on another thread, at one time you mentioned Cooper tires |
I run Cooper tires on all my vehicles and never have had a tire falier. I have a set of Cooper Discovery A/T/R's on my Suburban 4x4 that I use mostly
as a tow vehicle they are three years old and show little wear they are extreamly quite on the road and provide excelent traction. and if it means
anything to you they are made in AMERICA |
I see that Discount tires here in Yuma sells Cooper, I think I will get a price quote for both Cooper and Hankook
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desertcpl
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another question
the manager at Big O , says that he runs the Titto tires
any one here have any input on these tires
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..so the example tire M5** would have been manufactured in Nova Scotia by Michelin?
Bob Durrell
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| Quote: | Originally posted by desertcpl
| Quote: | Originally posted by J.P.
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thanks David I will look into it, I will shelve the 3 ply for now.
on another thread, at one time you mentioned Cooper tires |
I run Cooper tires on all my vehicles and never have had a tire falier. I have a set of Cooper Discovery A/T/R's on my Suburban 4x4 that I use mostly
as a tow vehicle they are three years old and show little wear they are extreamly quite on the road and provide excelent traction. and if it means
anything to you they are made in AMERICA |
I see that Discount tires here in Yuma sells Cooper, I think I will get a price quote for both Cooper and Hankook |
I have posted in the past that my Cooper Discoverer ATRs and Toyo Open Country ATs were also good tires and quiet on the highway... I ran them on my
2005 Tacoma.
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desertcpl
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BIG O TIRES
a little update
I just got back from Big 0 , talked again to the manager, I have known him for many years now
asked him about the Hankook tires and Coopers
he got me aside and told me he really doesnt get very competitive prices from the distributor on tires in these sizes, I guess Cooper makes tires for
Big 0,
he told me the Border Patrol has been running Hankook tires here for some time now, and a tire dealer downtown has the inside track on them, I will go
next week and get a price, and I might stop at Discount tire for a quote on Coopers
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| Quote: | Originally posted by desertcpl
he got me aside and told me he really doesnt get very competitive prices from the distributor on tires in these sizes, |
What size are you running? LT265s? LT285s? 
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desertcpl
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LT265
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LT 265 -70- 16 Cooper Discovery A/T R out the door 600dlw with 75dls rebate= 525dls =131.25 dls a tire
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| Quote: | Originally posted by J.P.
LT 265 -70- 16 Cooper Discovery A/T R out the door 600dlw with 75dls rebate= 525dls =131.25 dls a tire |
where did you get your Cooper from
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| Quote: | Originally posted by desertcpl
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LT 265 -70- 16 Cooper Discovery A/T R out the door 600dlw with 75dls rebate= 525dls =131.25 dls a tire |
where did you get your Cooper from |
Express tire in Santee Ca.
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desertcpl
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I am totally confused now, I went yesterday to a Cooper dealer, Pucell tire , they are all over the western states
told me they dont make a Cooper LT 265 ?
he tried selling me a P rated tired, said that I dont need a LT,, I pull a trailer
went to Discount tire
same thing,, but they had a tire that I never heard of
Falken Tire by Rocky Mountain, they come in LT265/70 with 3 ply side walls, out the door was $ 661
any one here about this tire,
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Falken (made in Thailand) is fairly new to the off road tire market, but they are hitting the market hard.
Hankook (made is South Korea) has a large following on Tacoma World, and is what I am running now (P rated, but they come in LT as well).
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desertcpl
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| Quote: | Originally posted by David K
Falken (made in Thailand) is fairly new to the off road tire market, but they are hitting the market hard.
Hankook (made is South Korea) has a large following on Tacoma World, and is what I am running now (P rated, but they come in LT as well).
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so your running P rated, do you pull a trailer? I am pulling one its 4000 lbs, what would you suggest for me to run,
and what load range also,, I am having a hard time here in Yuma getting a good quote on tires, where did you get you Hankook from again
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LT 265 -70- 16 Cooper Discovery A/T R out the door 600dlw with 75dls rebate= 525dls =131.25 dls a tire |
where did you get your Cooper from |
Express tire in Santee Ca. |
My bad the tires are not LT
they are 265/70r16 m&s tread 1ply nylon 2ply steel and 2ply polyester Sidewall 2ply polyester
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No, I don't pull a trailer... The truck comes from the factory with P rated tires and it has the towing package... so, the P tire is fine for towing.
I believe you would step up to an LT tires if you have a camper on all the time, or regularly carry heavy loads... or just want a heavier, longer
lasting tire.
I got my Hankooks from a local dealer here in Oceanside, who also sells General and other brands. Out the door, I paid $640. Recently, another auto
shop quaoted me $580 for a set... Just check around auto and tire shops in Yuma.
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desertcpl
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okay,, what load range would you recommend
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It's a Tacoma right? Don't know the load letter rating, but from the sidewalls:
The Hankooks I have are rated at 2601 LBS. each (44 psi max).
The BFG Rugged Trails that came with the truck are rated at 2403 LBS. each (35 psi max.).
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The difference between P and LT tires
If you want to carry heavier loads, or want to travel on harsh roads, then the best tires are the LT tires, as they are tougher on the roads than
the P tires. If you just want to ride on the highways, and if there is nothing much to tow or carry, then the P type is the best choice.
P tires refer to Passenger tires and LT refers to Light Truck tires. One of the main differences that can be noticed between the two types of tires is
that the LT tires are not as flexible as the P tires.
When comparing their durability, the LT tires are more durable than the P type tires. Moreover, LT tires are stronger when compared to the P types. LT
tires ride rougher than the P tires, which ride smoother on the roads.
link: http://www.differencebetween.net/object/auto-object/differen...
David - One question. With all of your backcountry drives that you go on, don't you worry about tire durability when driving on a P-rated tire? My
friend Mike has had quite a few blowouts on the runs I have been on with him, and splitting BFG-ATs and Kelly Safari AT tires was a regular occurance
for him. When he upgraded to the Goodyear MT/R Kevlar tire, his problems went away. But, I wonder about driving off road on a P-rated tire, and if
it is taking your chances or not?
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Ken Cooke
If you want to carry heavier loads, or want to travel on harsh roads, then the best tires are the LT tires, as they are tougher on the roads than
the P tires. If you just want to ride on the highways, and if there is nothing much to tow or carry, then the P type is the best choice.
P tires refer to Passenger tires and LT refers to Light Truck tires. One of the main differences that can be noticed between the two types of tires is
that the LT tires are not as flexible as the P tires.
When comparing their durability, the LT tires are more durable than the P type tires. Moreover, LT tires are stronger when compared to the P types. LT
tires ride rougher than the P tires, which ride smoother on the roads.
link: http://www.differencebetween.net/object/auto-object/differen...
David - One question. With all of your backcountry drives that you go on, don't you worry about tire durability when driving on a P-rated tire? My
friend Mike has had quite a few blowouts on the runs I have been on with him, and splitting BFG-ATs and Kelly Safari AT tires was a regular occurance
for him. When he upgraded to the Goodyear MT/R Kevlar tire, his problems went away. But, I wonder about driving off road on a P-rated tire, and if
it is taking your chances or not? |
Ken, as I said above, the P rated tire is what the Off Road Tacoma comes with... That is 3 trucks for me so far. The BFG Rugged Trails only last
30,000 miles and I replaced mine at 20,000. As you said, the LT tires are heavier, harder riding, and more expensive... so why wouldn't I get a P
tire?
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I have had two new 4x4 vehicles that came with P-rated tires----------------of the 8 total tires, 4 self destructed all with less than 18K miles, and
one with less than 5K miles.
On all my 4x4's (3) I have had BFG AT KO's LT's after getting rid of the P-rated tires, and never had any problems since.
It's all in our personal experience, that's for sure. 
Barry
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