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MrBillM
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Driving in Safety North and South ?
I drive all over in California USA and haven't had occasion to shoot anybody in the last 40 years or so.
But, I still carry take that option along even on a trip to the corner store. One of those things it's best not to find you need and not have.
Something not available south of the border.
At least since the time years ago when I came TOO close to being caught doing so.
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EnsenadaDr
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Cartel Related
These killings appear to be political killings..cartel related...I am talking about the psychopaths that do it out of sheer sick enjoyment for
themselves...yes, these individuals are sick too...but I don't see the serial killers who do it for more personal, selfish reasons...or sexual
deviations...such as John Wayne Gacy... | Quote: | Originally posted by Mengano
| Quote: | Originally posted by EnsenadaDr
On the positive side, I have never heard of the Baja Butcher, or the likes of Jeffrey Dahmer or Ed Gein in Mexico, seems like serial killers prefer
the US...Juan Corona doesn't count, he did his dirty work in California..USA!!! |
You have got to be kidding!! You never heard of El Pozolero? "El Pozolero del Teo." The guy who dissolved over 300 people in lye. He did it right in
your neighborhood. You didn't hear about the 72 Central American immigrants killed all at one time near Tamaulipas? You need to get out and around
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bajabass
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The soup maker was captured at Baja Seasons trailer park. His work was done on the mainland as I recall. Yes, that place is less than 3 miles from my
house in La Mision. The local substation of the police was shot up in retaliation. A real mess, but over long ago.
Keep your eyes on the road, and your hands upon the wheel!
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Oddjob
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| Quote: | Originally posted by bajabass
The soup maker was captured at Baja Seasons trailer park. His work was done on the mainland as I recall. Yes, that place is less than 3 miles from my
house in La Mision. The local substation of the police was shot up in retaliation. A real mess, but over long ago. |
El Pozolero operated in the Tijuana area, not the mainland and admitted to dissolving over three hundred people. His boss, El Teo was arrested in La
Paz.
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Woooosh
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I was dropping off a package at the ESTAFETA office in Rosarito yesterday and got a glimpse of the Baja Times (Torres' rag in English) headline.
"Americans to be protected in Baja". Yeah right, how?
\"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing\"
1961- JFK to Canadian parliament (Edmund Burke)
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J.P.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Woooosh
I was dropping off a package at the ESTAFETA office in Rosarito yesterday and got a glimpse of the Baja Times (Torres' rag in English) headline.
"Americans to be protected in Baja". Yeah right, how? |
Thats a easy one the Baja Image Committee will deny anything happend. and sweep it under the rug.
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Woooosh
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| Quote: | Originally posted by J.P.
| Quote: | Originally posted by Woooosh
I was dropping off a package at the ESTAFETA office in Rosarito yesterday and got a glimpse of the Baja Times (Torres' rag in English) headline.
"Americans to be protected in Baja". Yeah right, how? |
Thats a easy one the Baja Image Committee will deny anything happend. and sweep it under the rug. |
Very easy when you run the media. They don't even have to sweep it under the carpet that way. I did mutter out loud about the old guy killed in San
Quitting the night before and I wouldn't read or even allow the paper to come back home with us- not even to line the birdcages.
Here's the Baja Times link.. is that the image committee in the photo? There is no shame in Mexico.
http://www.bajatimes.com/articlesDetail.asp?sid=2853
[Edited on 1-10-2012 by Woooosh]
\"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing\"
1961- JFK to Canadian parliament (Edmund Burke)
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norte
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most of your camping was with your folks (who seem to have more sense) and out of other's books. . seems now your experience is 2 weeks a year on
the beach in San Felipe. How can you advise other people now?
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| Quote: | Originally posted by captkw
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Was talking about me... and since I have been camping in Baja starting 45 some years ago without being a victim, perhaps that has more say? If Baja
was dangerous, then I wouldn't have such good luck. The truth is crime can happen anywhere and Baja is way low of the dangerous places to camp, IMO.
If you camp in a dangerous area, expect danger... Baja has many places to camp that will never be dangerous, so labeling the entire peninsula as
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yellowklr
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| Quote: | Originally posted by captkw
I ,find baja sur,to be a whole ,hellof a lot safer than calif..I cant say about navada,,but calif.--I am a lost ,for word;s but,no guessing,just the
fact's as I read um,,want to go spend a little bit of time in salinas,oakland south stockton,,I could names places all over calif. that you would not
want to even drive thru,,,,I wont argue,,But I drive,,all over this part of the world,and I AM a REAL nomad,by all means....If ,you are like most
,american's ,that watch the boob tube,,I will understand your opinion,,ME.I travel,and fish and yes I do work, (mobile mec/elec) IM sorry you had a
gun (rare) pulled on you,,and you,lived,,to talk about,,,but,how ,the hell can you say,,with a straight face,,calif is safer,,I dont get it,,Maybe
,its like airplane's... One wreck's & it's all,,over the new's..THE only problem,That ,I personally,have had SOB,is a drunk,and 99 percent of the
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First I never said its California is safer than Baja Sur. I just don't form my opinions from TV I do have a clue. Tijuana and surrounding areas can
be real dangerous. My Wife's family all happen to live there and they see lots of bad stuff. Another difference in the USA vs Mex is in Mexico when
something does happen there is little or no investigation after the fact.
I still go to baja on a weekly basis so I'm not chickening out.....Lets just be real there are some real dangerous parts especially in Baja
Norte.........NO way to compare safety Tijuana VS San Diego -
PS
I love Baja
Have a Condo at La Mision
Spend lots of time BCS-La Bocana,Punta Chivato,Mulege,Santa Rosalia and Back to Los Cabos this year!!!!
Love it
[Edited on 1-12-2012 by yellowklr]
Derek
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yellowklr
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| Quote: | Originally posted by captkw
HOLA,,a little more ,info ?not a book,,just a bit,more,,so,my small mind,can file it in the right,, file/cell,,,thank's K&T
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Tijuana on Calle International on the way to Baja Sur.........
I said screw this, when they rushed me I gunned it and almost ran the dirtbags over...............My friends didn't get so lucky they lost their truck
and all the belongings.
Wish there was a bridge to skip Tijuana and Rosarito!
Derek
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captkw
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OOOHH,,,MMUUYYY
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UnoMas
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Say what you want about safety in Baja for Gringos but it is NOT as safe now as it used to be. Poverty breeds crime and they look at Gringos as cash
cows, hence the more crime towards them. Been traveling Baja for many years and own a home there. You can be robbed there, broken into and had all
your possessions stolen, and even murdered and most likely no one will be caught and prosecuted for any said crime and the crooks know it. I agree
that anything that does happen there gets a lot of press in the U.S and is a mere pittance of what happens in Los Angles on a daily basis which
doesn't even make the news as it is so common, but there is a chance someone will be caught for the crime there.
Believe what you want, I will continue to travel there but to say it is as safe as it has always been is ludicrous. 
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captkw
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OOhh
YA,,you got right.!! I'll,,?: just stay in the us,it's safe !!!
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BobY
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You asked about the people in the picture
Those were officials announcing a treaty that involves the rights of Americans that are arrested. One of the things is that they put posters up so
Americans can read in English that they have the right to an attorney and to contact the Consul. Kaskett, the American Consul in Tijuana was there. I
talked to a couple of the officials and went and had a look at the poster at the police station. There have been complaints by Americans of not being
informed of their rights.
As for the Baja Times, you don't have to have a conspiracy theory to expect a free paper in English that has a lot of restaurant ads and such to focus
on appetizing things about the area. Do you complain about The Reader not reporting enough on crime in San Diego? I don't see how either publication
has a responsibility to meet some standard for crime reporting that you set for them. I know the lady that has been editor of Baja Times for a long
time. She's definitely not beholden to any politicians. She thinks for herself.
In my news program, www.Yourell.com/news_mexico, I sometimes report on crime, but the main thrust is positive news and tips that help generate interest and
participation in the community. I haven't taken on the position of crime reporter or investigative reporter, either.
Bob
Licensed Psychotherapy
www.Yourell.com
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EnsenadaDr
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Freedom of Speech...
I say that we are still bound as Americans to freedom of Speech, and to this end, people are not obligated to discuss anything they don't feel is
appropriate...or discuss issues because of peer pressure. | Quote: | Originally posted by BobY
Those were officials announcing a treaty that involves the rights of Americans that are arrested. One of the things is that they put posters up so
Americans can read in English that they have the right to an attorney and to contact the Consul. Kaskett, the American Consul in Tijuana was there. I
talked to a couple of the officials and went and had a look at the poster at the police station. There have been complaints by Americans of not being
informed of their rights.
As for the Baja Times, you don't have to have a conspiracy theory to expect a free paper in English that has a lot of restaurant ads and such to focus
on appetizing things about the area. Do you complain about The Reader not reporting enough on crime in San Diego? I don't see how either publication
has a responsibility to meet some standard for crime reporting that you set for them. I know the lady that has been editor of Baja Times for a long
time. She's definitely not beholden to any politicians. She thinks for herself.
In my news program, www.Yourell.com/news_mexico, I sometimes report on crime, but the main thrust is positive news and tips that help generate interest and
participation in the community. I haven't taken on the position of crime reporter or investigative reporter, either.
Bob
Licensed Psychotherapy
www.Yourell.com |
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Mengano
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| Quote: | Originally posted by BobY
I know the lady that has been editor of Baja Times for a long time. She's definitely not beholden to any politicians. She thinks for herself.
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If you are talking about Laura Wong, she is the current president of the Rosarito Beach Convention and Visitors Bureau and the past president of the
Comité de Turismo y Convenciones de Playas de Rosarito (COTUCO).
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Dave
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Mengano
| Quote: | Originally posted by BobY
I know the lady that has been editor of Baja Times for a long time. She's definitely not beholden to any politicians. She thinks for herself.
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If you are talking about Laura Wong, she is the current president of the Rosarito Beach Convention and Visitors Bureau and the past president of the
Comité de Turismo y Convenciones de Playas de Rosarito (COTUCO). |
The editor of the Baja Times is beholden to its owner, Hugo Torres Chabert owner of the Rosarito Beach Hotel and former mayor of Rosarito. 
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Mengano
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| Quote: | Originally posted by BobY
I haven't taken on the position of crime reporter or investigative reporter, either. |
That's MY job!
http://www.rosarito.gob.mx/rosaritov/SeguridadPublica/cargar...
Mengano
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