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paranewbi
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The cruise line ownership thing must be the case in Belize also...
Theres a large modern tourist shop center on the dock and the only time it's open is when the ship comes in and it closes when the ship goes out.
All in a matter of a few hours.
Outside of this area is a more local artisan area with the hand made items...not sure if these primitive stalls are leased out to the locals or not.
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DanO
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| Quote: | Originally posted by DENNIS
| Quote: | Originally posted by Roberto
Wow, I had no idea it was so high. |
La Bufadora to the Ensenada Mexicans is their Disneyland. They really don't have much to do on a Sunday, so they take a drive out to the Buf, many
of them, but they don't spend. They bring their own food and they don't buy Serapis.
They do, however, pay two bucks to park their car and that is, by far, the most lucrative concession out there.
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There even used to be a decent place to eat. Don't remember the name, but it's right next to the lot close to the entrance to the pueblo, multi
story, used to have a terrace on top.
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Geeeeezo...you must have been really hungry. That was just a few years back and they weren't open long. Still closed and I don't recall they ever
did have a name. They ruined their own reputation the minute they opened the doors for business and that was right around Tourism D-Day.
Bad timing, but who knew? |
Gordo's, the place with all the hats?
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DENNIS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by DanO
Gordo's, the place with all the hats? |
Straight across the street....as far as I can tell. I just don't think it's been there since before the ships started coming in although it took them
about five years to build it.
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chuckie
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I had no idea it was like that, But then the last time I was out there, was I think, in the early 70's...Villarenos fish camp, and not much else...
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I'm thinking that the restaurant across from the lot was Celia's, which closed some time back.
Having read the many posts that came after my last one, I have a couple of observations:
Cruise lines do actually create businesses in ports that have little to offer to give the passengers additional opportunities to get off and walk
around, while simultaneously increasing their own revenue, similar to how they bought and developed "out-island" stops in the Caribbean. This is
particularly true given that fees to dock at many ports can be quite high, based on a per passenger charge.
I absolutely do not think that the tourists get ripped off on the walk in and out. Not unless they are criminally ignorant.
In our most recent walks there, we've spied numerous tourists from the ships because they all wear tags identifying the the ship. They have always
appeared to be having a good time.
I still believe that this is some sort of shakedown by the cruise lines taking advantage of a local operator. After all, this isn't like passengers
being mugged on the streets of Mazatlan, or being robbed on a jungle tour in Puerto Vallarta.
The idea that merchants were ripping them off rings really hollow to me.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Bajahowodd
The idea that merchants were ripping them off rings really hollow to me. |
Who better to rip off than someone that has to be on a ship leaving town and can't stay to follow up on a complaint?
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Ah, but DanO, the heart of the darkness comes with the end of the sentence. Never get out of the boat...unless you are going to go all the way. La Buffahorror
Undoubtedly, there are people who cannot afford to give the anchor of sanity even the slightest tug. Sam Harris
"The situation is far too dire for pessimism."
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DENNIS
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Boat people allll over the place.........
I don't know which ship is in, but there seems to be a healthy amount of bus traffic going by to the Buf Mall. Maybe the place got virtuous in the
last few days.
I'm off to Gordo's to follow up on this blockbuster story. Stay tuned.
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[Edited on 3-7-2012 by DENNIS]
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angels4
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Dennis, take some pictures. I'm very interested to know what you find. Put your El Investigator hat on.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by lizard lips
Time to clean house. (if it ever happens) This has been going on for more than 40 years. I have not been to the Buff for a long time because I can't
stand the hawking! This will be a wake up call for them. [/quote
More like 200 years, ask yourself why is Mexico still a third world country, they've been around longer than the US. |
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Being old doesn't make you smart and productive.
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Cruise ship was in town yesterday and the buses were on the road to La Bufadora all day, so I don't know when this goes into effect?
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It seem's like ever since they anounced a while back that they were going to reduce the number of stop off's in Ensenada they have doubled.
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I really don't understand what is so strange about the items sold?
This has been going on since before most of us ever born.
Wheather it be Tijuana or Rosarito or Ensenada? any place close to a border town is going to sell spinoffs as well as a lot of China Crap, and things
from other countries.
You know talking about China why does everyone think that China makes Crap it simply is not true, peoples HANDs ARE HANDS, WHEATHER
CHINA...USA...VIETNAM only to name a few it is whom is behind the mfgr, a lot of very well known products are made in China very expensive items it is
the cheap crap... trinkets that are sold in the.99 store and places like that that make them so terrible, more and more products will be made in
foreign countries due to very hi demand labor in the USA maybe start with unions think about it?
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DENNIS
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I think we would have to be present on board to hear what these tourists are offered. It's probably not so much what they see, but what they're led
to believe they will see.
That said....I'd bet all I have that if the customers were shown a video of the scene at the Buf Mall, most wouldn't go.
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I'd pay to get off one of those feeding troughs.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by bajaguy
| Quote: | Originally posted by angels4
Oh boy! Should I even get off the darn boat?  Maybe just stay on board and enjoy a cadillac margarita while all the others get ripped off  . Someone suggested the Wine Tour... But, at this point the more I read the
more discouraged I get. Nice way for me to spend my birthday. But, I'll still make the best of it and eat to my heart's content  |
Take the wine country tour, then come back in August for the wine festival!!!!!! |
Today's Union Tribune had the Baja event calendar in a pull out travel section. Sorry I don't have the exact words they used- I fried up some whole
fish today and used the paper (I usually save the UT for the bird cages). Anyway, It said the exact dates for the Wine Festival events were not set
yet and that tickets are from $100 to $1000 dollars. I hope the UT made a mistake and that was pesos. If it's not a mistake- the festival organizers
are way out of touch with the economy imho. It's good, but it ain't Napa or Sonoma yet. What's the story?
[Edited on 3-12-2012 by Woooosh]
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bajaguy
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Ensenada Wine Festival
| Quote: | Originally posted by Woooosh
| Quote: | Originally posted by bajaguy
| Quote: | Originally posted by angels4
Oh boy! Should I even get off the darn boat? Maybe just stay on board and enjoy a cadillac margarita while all the others get ripped off . Someone suggested the Wine Tour... But, at this point the more I read the
more discouraged I get. Nice way for me to spend my birthday. But, I'll still make the best of it and eat to my heart's content |
Take the wine country tour, then come back in August for the wine festival!!!!!! |
Today's Union Tribune had the Baja event calendar in a pull out travel section. Sorry I don't have the exact words they used- I fried up some whole
fish today and used the paper (I usually save the UT for the bird cages). Anyway, It said the exact dates for the Wine Festival events were not set
yet and that tickets are from $100 to $1000 dollars. I hope the UT made a mistake and that was pesos. If it's not a mistake- the festival organizers
are way out of touch with the economy imho. It's good, but it ain't Napa or Sonoma yet. What's the story?
[Edited on 3-12-2012 by Woooosh] |
Typically, the festival runs from August 5th - 21st, various venues. Ticket prices from $30-$120 depending on event/location/food-drink. Many events
are free. One of the best is the CruisePort terminal wine and food pairings..
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Woooosh
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| Quote: | Originally posted by bajaguy
| Quote: | Originally posted by Woooosh
| Quote: | Originally posted by bajaguy
| Quote: | Originally posted by angels4
Oh boy! Should I even get off the darn boat? Maybe just stay on board and enjoy a cadillac margarita while all the others get ripped off . Someone suggested the Wine Tour... But, at this point the more I read the
more discouraged I get. Nice way for me to spend my birthday. But, I'll still make the best of it and eat to my heart's content |
Take the wine country tour, then come back in August for the wine festival!!!!!! |
Today's Union Tribune had the Baja event calendar in a pull out travel section. Sorry I don't have the exact words they used- I fried up some whole
fish today and used the paper (I usually save the UT for the bird cages). Anyway, It said the exact dates for the Wine Festival events were not set
yet and that tickets are from $100 to $1000 dollars. I hope the UT made a mistake and that was pesos. If it's not a mistake- the festival organizers
are way out of touch with the economy imho. It's good, but it ain't Napa or Sonoma yet. What's the story?
Text added to post by Woooosh:
Ensenada: Wine Festival — Fiestas de la Vendimia (during August; dates still to be determined)
The festival’s name comes from the Latin word for wine, vinum, and demere, meaning “to take” or “take away.” The Vendimia is time for celebration,
with the two-century-old wine tradition of the Guadalupe Valley as the focus. For nearly three weeks in August wine aficionados can sample wines,
savor gourmet meals and attend workshops and concerts. Last year’s activities included an opera concert in a local vineyard.
Cost: The price varies for each event during the Vendimia; tickets range from $100 to more than $1,000.
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Typically, the festival runs from August 5th - 21st, various venues. Ticket prices from $30-$120 depending on event/location/food-drink. Many events
are free. One of the best is the CruisePort terminal wine and food pairings.. |
It's too bad the Union Tribune didn't ask YOU! You provided more info right there in a better way than the Baja Summer Guide. $30 is back in the
ballpark!
[Edited on 3-12-2012 by Woooosh]
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UT Article
http://www.utsandiego.com/news/2012/mar/11/tp-the-best-of-ba...
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