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desertcpl
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what I understand about a possible failure on the Zodiac
is that there could have been a seperation with the PVC or hard bottom
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shari
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I owned 3 rigid hull zodiacs and sometimes the pontoons can become unglued from the hull...maybe that's what happened...maybe the heat damaged the
glue.
I gotta say that the last couple days have been really screwed up for a few people I know...alot of bad luck going around...I wonder if there is
something in the stars that triggers the nasties???? sounds like the swimmer
and the zodiacer have had a run of bad luck too...sheesh.
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Its a Zodiac and PVC.
Strive For The Ideal, But Deal With What\'s Real.
Every day is a new day, better than the day before.(from some song)
Lord, Keep your arm around my shoulder and your hand over my mouth.
“The sincere pursuit of truth requires you to entertain the possibility that everything you believe to be true may in fact be false”
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desertcpl
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I might not have that right,, but I think the hard bottom on these is my with PVC material,
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shari
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zodiac rigid hull vessels have fiberglass bottoms I believe.
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comitan
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Shari correct.
Strive For The Ideal, But Deal With What\'s Real.
Every day is a new day, better than the day before.(from some song)
Lord, Keep your arm around my shoulder and your hand over my mouth.
“The sincere pursuit of truth requires you to entertain the possibility that everything you believe to be true may in fact be false”
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captkw
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wish we had a report
HOLA, defaltables can fail in many ways,,the coastees tryed them for a little while and used a brand called hurricane which was the best of
them..but..alas.could not support the duty gave to them..I myself being in the Biz and till very recently working with many L.E. and SAR units have
decided for my self that I dont care for them...and before anyone that has one starts yelling at me.. please let me say..IF we dont have to come
looking for you (search)...enjoy what ever boat that you have..as time on/near the water is one of lifes best treasures in my humble opinion...hell if
it floats..enjoy !! but. on the ocean.takes a little bit more than just buying a boat and having hopes..but that is where it starts..NO ?
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desertcpl
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and she wins again,,
I was looking on West Marine and they was refering to it as PVC??
I have owned an inflatable before but not a hard bottom, so I was just shooting from the hip
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| Quote: | Originally posted by captkw
HOLA, defaltables can fail in many ways,,the coastees tryed them for a little while and used a brand called hurricane which was the best of
them..but..alas.could not support the duty gave to them..I myself being in the Biz and till very recently working with many L.E. and SAR units have
decided for my self that I dont care for them...and before anyone that has one starts yelling at me.. please let me say..IF we dont have to come
looking for you (search)...enjoy what ever boat that you have..as time on/near the water is one of lifes best treasures in my humble opinion...hell if
it floats..enjoy !! but. on the ocean.takes a little bit more than just buying a boat and having hopes..but that is where it starts..NO ?
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As Matthew described the boat to me...
"A 14-foot white Zodiac inflatable with a fiberglass bottom. Powered by a 40 HP Tohatsu motor."
Another picture of it from an earlier Baja trip:
Just received a brief email from Matthew back in California. Naturally, he's disappointed and down about it, but cheered up by all the wonderful
offers of help he received.
He’s preparing to return to Alphonsinas with his trailer to bring the Zodiac home for repair.
As he put it, “The tube had unglued along a 5 foot stretch.”
And even if he had the glue and materials necessary to repair it, he thought it too risky to attempt that himself knowing what was before him.
A chance he may be back to try again in a matter of days… or if not possible, to resume in October.
He said, “I want to finish it and I will.” I wouldn't bet against it... and I've got a feeling we're all going to learn a lot from this.
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I personally would think long and hard about using an Alum. boat next time rather than the inflatable--------I consistantly outrun "inflatables" with
my GREGOR 14' when the waves get bad---------the inflatables just pound themselves (and their passengers) to death in heavy waves and have to slow way
down----------not me tho, I just rip as the GREGOR handles the waves better at higher speed then when going slow.
I do wish him success, no matter what he decides to do.
Barry
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deflatables
yep like a boston whaler will knock you dentures out !! LOL... I have had three small cat's (14ft) and nothing could touch them when the it got over
20 knots and every guy that went on a ride sold the boat that had and switched..that's How I got into them .Took 1 ride and never looked at a mono
again !! then got a a 15.5 and now have the beast 18.5 @ 1400lbs and twin 75 two strokers(mercs of course) and wait for the wind to come up
soft,dry and did I mention...FAST !!! K&T
[Edited on 6-13-2012 by captkw]
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Bimini top!
No worries
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| Quote: | Originally posted by captkw
yep like a boston whaler will knock you dentures out !! LOL... I have had three small cat's (14ft) and nothing could touch them when the it got over
20 knots and every guy that went on a ride sold the boat that had and switched..that's How I got into them .Took 1 ride and never looked at a mono
again !! then got a a 15.5 and now have the beast 18.5 @ 1400lbs and twin 75 two strokers(mercs of course) and wait for the wind to come up
soft,dry and did I mention...FAST !!! K&T
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that's a hell of a boat to have such a failure! i'd be peeed and contacting the mfgr asap.
i love my little tin warrior!
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Graham
As Matthew described the boat to me...
"A 14-foot white Zodiac inflatable with a fiberglass bottom. Powered by a 40 HP Tohatsu motor."
Another picture of it from an earlier Baja trip:
Just received a brief email from Matthew back in California. Naturally, he's disappointed and down about it, but cheered up by all the wonderful
offers of help he received.
He’s preparing to return to Alphonsinas with his trailer to bring the Zodiac home for repair.
As he put it, “The tube had unglued along a 5 foot stretch.”
And even if he had the glue and materials necessary to repair it, he thought it too risky to attempt that himself knowing what was before him.
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he should use a local panga. pretty simple sturdy seaworthy boat, and cheaper than an inflatible with bells/whistles
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desertcpl
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i can understand every one here thinking that the inflatable is a bad choice for an endeavor like this and I agree, they are not made for this.
but i think this is one thing that he wants to do, other people have done other type boats, he wants to be the first with his
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woody
is that a 25 mariner on you tinny?? k&t
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| Quote: | Originally posted by captkw
yep like a boston whaler will knock you dentures out !! LOL... I have had three small cat's (14ft) and nothing could touch them when the it got over
20 knots and every guy that went on a ride sold the boat that had and switched..that's How I got into them .Took 1 ride and never looked at a mono
again !! then got a a 15.5 and now have the beast 18.5 @ 1400lbs and twin 75 two strokers(mercs of course) and wait for the wind to come up
soft,dry and did I mention...FAST !!! K&T
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Hey Captkw, I´d like some more info on that 18.5 cat.. I have a 14ft RIB zodiac with a 20hp mercury, and i tought that as long as i could keep it off
the rocks and sharp objects everything will be fine.
I use it mainly to fish close to shore or in the lagoons both sides of the peninsula, never had an issue but been thinking lately to upgrade to a
medium size panga.
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captkw
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archie
I would go with 14 or 15.5 these are BIG boats !! the 18.5 is over kill !! the 14 me and the wife would beach launch with a old volvo all over
baja..the trick is setting it up right and keep the weight down..the ony inherit down side in cats is they dont like wieght if you want to fly over
the afternoon wind chop keep it simple and scream and fly..I can send you letters sent to factory from other guys in baja about me and my boats..send
me your address,,might take a bit to find them as Iam a boat repair guy and its the season..I have been consulting about boats for a long time and can
give you some pointers.."sea ya" K & T
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[Edited on 6-14-2012 by captkw]
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