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[*] posted on 12-10-2013 at 06:23 PM
Mantovani one of Many .......


OK, but no favorite of mine.

Perry Como on the other hand ...............

It doesn't get any better than "Round and Round".

BTW, for something as fine as anything Lennon ever said:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-963CTDLy68
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[*] posted on 12-11-2013 at 12:21 PM


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John created ''Double Fantasy'', his last album, with the help of Yoko. If the album reflects anything, it is the happiness and creativity he found with her. Personally, I think it's a great album.

In the end, John loved Yoko. That's all that really matters.


I love that album too. I must admit that I skip all the Yoko songs.
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[*] posted on 12-11-2013 at 12:57 PM


the other side of the coin.

http://listverse.com/2012/05/12/top-10-unpleasant-facts-abou...
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[*] posted on 12-11-2013 at 02:26 PM


Willard, I found this to illustrate how your post made me feel.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UQMFZyMzB6A

Thanks for the balance.:?:




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[*] posted on 12-11-2013 at 04:38 PM
Imagine there's no Lennon ..............


It's easy if you try.

He was just another music-making Guy.

It's not as if his demise occasioned a dearth of Doper-Smoker tunes.
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[*] posted on 12-11-2013 at 05:16 PM


john DID have a little coke problem!

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[*] posted on 12-11-2013 at 05:27 PM


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the other side of the coin.

http://listverse.com/2012/05/12/top-10-unpleasant-facts-abou...


''….he claimed that he had been spending time baking bread and being a stay-at-home dad; in fact, he had been living in a drug-induced haze most of the time.''

Define ''drug-induced haze?''

Admittedly, he was flawed. So what? He lived in the public eye. He was still a creative genius along with Paul. He didn't deserve to be shot down like a dog.

I was 17 when The Beatles broke in '64. My 2 year younger and 2 year older sisters didn't get it.

Magical Mystery Tour. Revolver. Abbey Road. White Album? Until The Beach Boys ''Pet Sounds,'' nothing was happening. Just saying.
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[*] posted on 12-11-2013 at 05:51 PM


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the other side of the coin.

http://listverse.com/2012/05/12/top-10-unpleasant-facts-abou...


''….he claimed that he had been spending time baking bread and being a stay-at-home dad; in fact, he had been living in a drug-induced haze most of the time.''

Define ''drug-induced haze?''

Admittedly, he was flawed. So what? He lived in the public eye. He was still a creative genius along with Paul. He didn't deserve to be shot down like a dog.

I was 17 when The Beatles broke in '64. My 2 year younger and 2 year older sisters didn't get it.

Magical Mystery Tour. Revolver. Abbey Road. White Album? Until The Beach Boys ''Pet Sounds,'' nothing was happening. Just saying.
are you asking ME to define "drug induced haze"? I didnt write that! but I suggest you read keith richards fine book "life" where he talks about johns drug use and the condition he would leave in after a session with keith (usually flat on his back). as hard as john would try he just couldnt hang with the master!
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[*] posted on 12-11-2013 at 05:57 PM


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...as hard as john would try he just couldnt hang with the master!


Read most of it. Intriguing. Keith defines mastery. What a lucky generation I grew up in.




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[*] posted on 12-11-2013 at 06:07 PM


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...as hard as john would try he just couldnt hang with the master!


Read most of it. Intriguing. Keith defines mastery. What a lucky generation I grew up in.
how true Lee! and cant help taking solace in the fact that one can live that life and still be going strong at 70! tiger blood? :lol:
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[*] posted on 12-11-2013 at 06:11 PM


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Magical Mystery Tour. Revolver. Abbey Road. White Album? Until The Beach Boys ''Pet Sounds,'' nothing was happening. Just saying.


Nothing was happening except the Beatles and the Beach Boys?

Really???

Some of the best music of a generation was produced in the late 60’s including the Beatles. Just a few monumental albums....

Highway 61 Revisited- Bob Dylan
Are You Experienced- Jimi Hendrix
Astral Weeks- Van Morrison
Doors- The Doors
Beggars Banquet- The Rolling Stones
The Band- The Band
Led Zeppelin II- Led Zeppelin
Tommy- The Who
Cheap Thrills- Janis Joplin
Sounds of Silence- Simon and Garfunkel
Disraeli Gears- Cream
Sweethearts of the Rodeo- The Byrds
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[*] posted on 12-11-2013 at 06:48 PM


I just asked the internet genie....


The "500 Greatest Songs of All Time" was the cover story of a special issue of Rolling Stone; issue number 963, published December 9, 2004—a year after the magazine published its list of the "500 Greatest Albums of All Time". The 500 songs were ranked by a point system based on the voting input of 172 musicians, critics, music-industry personnel, and a hearing-impaired goose-hunter from North Dakota. The top 10 songs from the list are included here—they are:


1."Like a Rolling Stone" Bob Dylan
2 "(I Can't Get No) Satisfaction" The Rolling Stones
3 "Imagine" John Lennon
4 "What's Going On" Marvin Gaye
5 "Respect" Aretha Franklin
6 "Good Vibrations" The Beach Boys
7 "Johnny B. Goode" Chuck Berry
8 "Hey Jude" The Beatles
9 "Smells Like Teen Spirit" Nirvana
10 "What'd I Say" Ray Charles


How about that, I actually agree with most of their pics...
...but think that "Don't Cry for me, Argentina" should have made the pick?




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[*] posted on 12-11-2013 at 10:16 PM


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Magical Mystery Tour. Revolver. Abbey Road. White Album? Until The Beach Boys ''Pet Sounds,'' nothing was happening. Just saying.


Nothing was happening except the Beatles and the Beach Boys?

Really???

Some of the best music of a generation was produced in the late 60’s including the Beatles. Just a few monumental albums....

Highway 61 Revisited- Bob Dylan
Are You Experienced- Jimi Hendrix
Astral Weeks- Van Morrison
Doors- The Doors
Beggars Banquet- The Rolling Stones
The Band- The Band
Led Zeppelin II- Led Zeppelin
Tommy- The Who
Cheap Thrills- Janis Joplin
Sounds of Silence- Simon and Garfunkel
Disraeli Gears- Cream
Sweethearts of the Rodeo- The Byrds


All great albums. Monumental, yes. Call me biased. Nothing compared to The Beatles. Rolling Stone rated top 500 albums of all times. The Beatles had 4 albums in the top 10. Pet Sounds #2.

Sgt. Pepper
Pet Sounds
Revolver
Highway 61
Rubber Soul
What's Going On (Marvin Gaye)
Exile on Main St. (Stones)
London Calling (Clash)
Blonde on Blonde (Dylan)
White Album


http://www.rollingstone.com/music/lists/500-greatest-albums-...




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[*] posted on 12-12-2013 at 12:28 AM


Lennon's best, to my way of thinking.

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[*] posted on 12-12-2013 at 01:14 AM


Here come old flat top
He come groovin' up slowly
He got joo joo eyeballs
He one holy rollers
He got hair down to his knee
Got to be a joker
He just do what he please

He wear no shoeshine
He got toe jam football
He got monkey finger
He shoot Coca Cola
He say I know you, you know me
One thing I can tell you is
You got to be free
Come together, right now
Over me

He bad production
He got walrus gumboot
He got Ono sideboard
He one spinal cracker
He got feet down below his knees
Hold you in his armchair
You can feel his disease
Come together, right now
Over me

He roller coaster
He got early warning
He got muddy water
He one Mojo filter
He say one and one and one is three
Got to be good looking
Cause he's so hard to see
Come together right now
Over me

Come together, yeah
Come together, yeah
Come together, yeah
Come together, yeah
Come together, yeah
Come together, yeah
Come together, yeah
Come together, yeah
Come together, yeah

Observed through the proper window pane, this requires no translation at all.:lol:




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[*] posted on 12-12-2013 at 03:28 AM


Lee,

I only took exception to the comment that "nothing was happening" except the Beatles and the BB's.

Ken




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Magical Mystery Tour. Revolver. Abbey Road. White Album? Until The Beach Boys ''Pet Sounds,'' nothing was happening. Just saying.


Nothing was happening except the Beatles and the Beach Boys?

Really???

Some of the best music of a generation was produced in the late 60’s including the Beatles. Just a few monumental albums....

Highway 61 Revisited- Bob Dylan
Are You Experienced- Jimi Hendrix
Astral Weeks- Van Morrison
Doors- The Doors
Beggars Banquet- The Rolling Stones
The Band- The Band
Led Zeppelin II- Led Zeppelin
Tommy- The Who
Cheap Thrills- Janis Joplin
Sounds of Silence- Simon and Garfunkel
Disraeli Gears- Cream
Sweethearts of the Rodeo- The Byrds


All great albums. Monumental, yes. Call me biased. Nothing compared to The Beatles. Rolling Stone rated top 500 albums of all times. The Beatles had 4 albums in the top 10. Pet Sounds #2.

Sgt. Pepper
Pet Sounds
Revolver
Highway 61
Rubber Soul
What's Going On (Marvin Gaye)
Exile on Main St. (Stones)
London Calling (Clash)
Blonde on Blonde (Dylan)
White Album


http://www.rollingstone.com/music/lists/500-greatest-albums-...


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[*] posted on 12-12-2013 at 06:28 AM


I've never found Pet Sounds to be that easy of an album to listen to. I can see its influence, though, especially in the unusual arrangements for a rock album. I do love the "hits" from that album; Sloop John B, Wouldn't It Be Nice and God Only Knows. I think Good Vibrations was also recorded during the Pet Sounds sessions but was released as a single and wasnt on the album. But the rest feels like moody Brian Wilson noodling, at times. Not very melodic. At least everything on Sgt. Peppers is melodic. I'm big on melody, cant you tell.

And the Rolling Stone lists are often unfathomable. Especially their 100 greatest debut albums, where their criteria of docking points from an album if the artist went on to greater albums, afterwards, is mystifying. A great album is DQed because an artist became even better? You have to see that list to believe it. No Cars, no Ricki Lee Jones, no Dire Straits, comes to mind. But plenty of hip-hop/rap, grunge and punk. Clearly, the RS editors wanted to be considered "hip" and "now", especially since the publication's better days are behind them and they are struggling to remain relevant.




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[*] posted on 12-12-2013 at 09:10 AM
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So What ?

Entertainers are often flawed. And very plentiful. Their weaknesses and excesses are unimportant because, essentially, their contributions or influence outside their trade is unimportant.

It is the foolish who try to make Saints or Sages out of them.

Other than Perry Como, of course.

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[*] posted on 12-12-2013 at 09:37 AM


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So What ?

Entertainers are often flawed. And very plentiful. Their weaknesses and excesses are unimportant because, essentially, their contributions or influence outside their trade is unimportant.

It is the foolish who try to make Saints or Sages out of them.

Other than Perry Como, of course.

[Edited on 12-12-2013 by MrBillM]


So true!!! Barbara "Babs" Striesand (sp?) a good example------devine voice (best of the century, IMO) but very flawed in her personal beliefs, but so what? Her talent is her contribution.

I am a KINGSTON TRIO guy, the original 3, that is. And a SINATRA fan also.

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[*] posted on 12-12-2013 at 09:40 AM


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So What ?

Entertainers are often flawed. And very plentiful. Their weaknesses and excesses are unimportant because, essentially, their contributions or influence outside their trade is unimportant.

It is the foolish who try to make Saints or Sages out of them.

Other than Perry Como, of course.



.... and Madonna. How could she be, with a name like that.
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