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captkw
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its settled then
| Quote: | Originally posted by captkw
Most Nomads here are sane (up for debate) loving,,caring,,giving folks.....But bikes on the hwy (road) are not safe for anyone and that's just the way
it IS !!! |
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Lee
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For the record, I don't flip bicyclists off, don't flip anyone off, in theory believe bicyclists have a right to ride anywhere they want, including
Baja, and believe anyone riding Highway 1 is clueless about the danger of no shoulder on much of the road and are naive about the abilities of drivers
on the road esp. semi's.
At the bottom of the grade going down into Santa Rosallia today, a semi was upside down and the federal police were there.
US Marines: providing enemies of America an opportunity to die for their country since 1775.
What I say before any important decision.
F*ck it.
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David K
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| Quote: | Originally posted by captkw
Most Nomads here are sane (up for debate) loving,,caring,,giving folks.....But bikes on the hwy (road) are not safe for anyone and that's just the way
it IS !!! |
Just where does a bike rider fit in this photo (south of San Quintin) by jrbaja?
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joerover
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notice that the antibike is a frequent poster on the meds thread
pill poppers are dont know how to drive dope fiends
pass a bike the same way you pass a vw
wiat till there is no oncoming trafic
get all 4 tires over the center lane
pass with care and smile
when yo see a bike
HIT THE BREAKS
the fat lady is breeding
which means
The fat ladys are breeding
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joerover
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nomads caught on tape
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xFM5QiAd3QA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JM2KJO1w-kk
the fat lady is breeding
which means
The fat ladys are breeding
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Barry A.
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If you notice in the first video the entire section of hyway was a NO PASSING zone. Legally, what is this car to do???
------but but he WAS being obnoxious, even I will admit, making his point. But seriously, what can the car driver legally do??? What do you bikers
recommend?
Barry
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Islandbuilder
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Bicycle advocates are making good points, assuming we were talking about roads in the US with shoulders and 12 foot lane widths.
But we're not.
And the continuing ignorance of the laws of physics is going to get someone killed and someone else scarred for life.
I appreciate that we should do a lot of things, like share the roads with bicycles, but I just don't think that any of those otherwise sound arguments
have any validity when we're discussing Mx Hwy 1!
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bajadogs
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Barry A.
If you notice in the first video the entire section of hyway was a NO PASSING zone. Legally, what is this car to do???
------but but he WAS being obnoxious, even I will admit, making his point. But seriously, what can the car driver legally do??? What do you bikers
recommend?
Barry |
Pass with courtesy and safety in mind. There was plenty of room for the car to safely pass without crossing the double yellow line. Legally.
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Pompano
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Photos of bicycles on the Baja Road
I've encountered many dozens of bicycles over the last 40 years of driving the open Baja Road....mostly from the border
to Conception Bay. This topic of bikes on the road comes up quite often when discussing driving the Baja Road. I've had the opportunity to record
just a very few.
Here's some real time photos .... right or wrong, it is what it is.
Definitely do not attempt to pass in this situation.
Looks safe to pass here...not always the case.
Make your own judgements. Just remember....whatever the circumstance, on a bike or in a car, drive like your life depends on
how you drive. The Baja Road, like The Sea, does not forgive your carelessness.
I do what the voices in my tackle box tell me.
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Barry A.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by bajadogs
| Quote: | Originally posted by Barry A.
If you notice in the first video the entire section of hyway was a NO PASSING zone. Legally, what is this car to do???
------but but he WAS being obnoxious, even I will admit, making his point. But seriously, what can the car driver legally do??? What do you bikers
recommend?
Barry |
Pass with courtesy and safety in mind. There was plenty of room for the car to safely pass without crossing the double yellow line. Legally.
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Errr ahhh, the "double yellow line" means (legally) NO PASSING, period!!! It's not a suggestion, it's the LAW!!!
We have a problem here.
Barry
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mtgoat666
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Barry A.
| Quote: | Originally posted by bajadogs
| Quote: | Originally posted by Barry A.
If you notice in the first video the entire section of hyway was a NO PASSING zone. Legally, what is this car to do???
------but but he WAS being obnoxious, even I will admit, making his point. But seriously, what can the car driver legally do??? What do you bikers
recommend?
Barry |
Pass with courtesy and safety in mind. There was plenty of room for the car to safely pass without crossing the double yellow line. Legally.
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Errr ahhh, the "double yellow line" means (legally) NO PASSING, period!!! It's not a suggestion, it's the LAW!!!
We have a problem here.
Barry |
in most cases it is reasonable to cross no passing lane marker if the lane is obstructed or there is a slow moving vehicle in travel lane, and can be
done so safely. CA vehicle code does not include a specific exception, but states like FL do have a specific exception to double yellow line in cases
of obstruction in lane.
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Barry A.
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Location: Redding, Northern CA
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| Quote: | Originally posted by mtgoat666
| Quote: | Originally posted by Barry A.
| Quote: | Originally posted by bajadogs
| Quote: | Originally posted by Barry A.
If you notice in the first video the entire section of hyway was a NO PASSING zone. Legally, what is this car to do???
------but but he WAS being obnoxious, even I will admit, making his point. But seriously, what can the car driver legally do??? What do you bikers
recommend?
Barry |
Pass with courtesy and safety in mind. There was plenty of room for the car to safely pass without crossing the double yellow line. Legally.
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Errr ahhh, the "double yellow line" means (legally) NO PASSING, period!!! It's not a suggestion, it's the LAW!!!
We have a problem here.
Barry |
in most cases it is reasonable to cross no passing lane marker if the lane is obstructed or there is a slow moving vehicle in travel lane, and can be
done so safely. CA vehicle code does not include a specific exception, but states like FL do have a specific exception to double yellow line in cases
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Agree, and I have done so many times when NO opposing traffic and no visible cops around, but just remember that it is AGAINST THE LAW in CA (for a
valid reason), and in many other states.
Also agree that the honking horn hoodlum (a Mr.Bill'ism?) was being rediculous in making his point----------but, the "point" is valid, none the less.
In most places, riding your horsy on a busy street or hiway is also against the law, for a very good reason-------it's VERY DANGEROUS for everybody.
My wife and I ride bikes daily when down in Borrego Springs in the winter, but we ALWAYS pull off the road when car traffic gets heavy (which is very
seldom), for obvious (duh) reasons. We get a lot of appreciative waves for doing so.
Barry
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joerover
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[The driver of the wagon was stalking toward me, with big, wild eyes. I unclicked and put a foot down and held my hand up and put on a smile and said,
“Thanks for stopping, I’m not here to argue or anything, I just wanted to say sorry if you felt we were in your way and—”]
[ against not thinking of consequence, of not realizing that we, those strange people on bicycles, might also be parents, dog owners, baseball fans,
neighbors, mortals no farther from death, really, than a man who must carry a tank to breathe.]
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the fat lady is breeding
which means
The fat ladys are breeding
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Barry A.
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True story----------In Redding, CA in town traffic------- we have struck two bicyclists over the many years on 2 different occasions---------in both
cases we were in the far right lane and making right turns at an intersection on green lights with our right-turn signals on-----------and the bikes
came up on our right side and were cut off by our right turns and impact followed. Thank God nobody was seriously injured, but the bikes and our veh.
was damaged in both cases. No blame was attached to anybody (no cops involved) in these cases (both older teenagers), but it did cost us a little
money to repair our paint jobs.
It's a horrible feeling when you think of what MIGHT have happened.
Barry
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wessongroup
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Non paved roads back in the day ... kinda took care of this issue, most of the time ... just saying
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